I was born and raised in a Pentecostal church and have heard people “speak in tounges” and “prophecy” my whole short life. Speaking in tounges in my opinions is just gibberish and anybody can do it while propheycing is not someone actually saying a prophecy but a person saying out loud what God had spoken to them. It is sometimes a promise like God would send healing to someone in the place, or that God is in this place and will send the holy spirit down. I for the longest time have been adamant on the point that God was speaking to them during the meeting but now just believe they convince themselves it’s God when it’s just themselves.
The first reason why I don’t believe in religion anymore is when I learned that different races have vastly different iqs and athletic abilities. Thus indicating that they are at different stages of some type of evolution. Why would god make some peoples less human and others more, if religion is a human concept which needs human thought and clarity to follow. It makes literally zero sense.
Another reason is that some people are born as inherently non religious. Psychopaths are literally hardwired to be evil while others are literally born without the cognitive abilities to understand anything about religion.
Another reason is that religions influences on the world is insignificantly small. The Jewish god literally started out as a tribal war god who claimed that his people would be an example to all the world. Even if the Israelites were able to conquer the whole western world. Millions of people still wouldn’t have even heard about heard or even cared about the Hebrew God. Christianity has also been around for 2,000 years and millions still haven’t heard about it. It wasn’t even close to being the worlds biggest religion for many of those years. Meanwhile the god up there has also let religions such as Islam which deny claims central to Christianity to gain at times even more followers than Christianity. Why would God allow religions which literally claim the central points of Christianity to be false to become that widespread? It literally makes zero sense.
I sometime ago read on here about how an Italian translator interpreted the Bible saying that humans were a creation of life from an alien species which lived for 1000s of years. Some of these aliens led different people groups and became known as Gods. I honestly believe this theory because it makes sense how the localized actions of the Israelites were driven by an alien and not an omnipresent God. If anybody can link me to articles about this theory, please do.
I agree with you that they existed, but they are aliens, not omnipotent gods. Please reread my post friend. I believe that the ark of the covenant, Ezekiel’s wheel, Elijah’s chariots of fire, and a lot of the miracles were done with alien technology. This is also the reason why the Israelites actions are localized and were not examples to the whole world. This is also the reason why different races are at different stages of evolution.
I know that God gave the instructions on how to build the tabernacle and the ark of the covenant when Moses was on Mount Sinai. He went there and literally talked to God like he was a person. It was all man made, but the ark of covenant had technology inside that the Israelites thought was divine but instead alien.
I have read the bible my friend, and am knowledgeable about many of its aspects.
My friend I raised genuine points about the locality and insignificance on a global scale of the so called "omnipotent" and "omniscient" Gods religion, amongst brining up another host of other issues I find with how the world's as it is ordered not being compatible with the all powerful God the bible claims existing.
The glory of god rested on the ark, whatever about that glory which killed people was alien technology.
My friend, everybody in my church I see are hypocrites (including me). All the young adults my age just spout sexual jokes all the time, don't care about the meetings, and get worked over the smallest things. I also have to go dress in a suit and be on time church to worship a God who only cares about "inner disposition". The thing that first led me to really question my faith was that environment of hypocrisy. You're right, i kind of have isolated myself from the people at church and also started questioning my belief in God. Now I just focused on my friends at my university and don't play pretend at church. I still follow Christian morals though and believe they are the principles i need to keep to live a good and successful life.
Thank you for responding my friend. I shall keep your words in my mind.
a) Evidence aka EX (out of whole) VIDERE (to see) aka what each one perceives...not what others are suggesting.
b) One perceives sound; others suggest words (Jesus; God) to distract with idols; brands; marks; spell-craft etc. Only oneself can resist the temptation of suggested (words) within perceivable (sound).
c) Word implies articulation of natural sound, and each suggested letter tempts one to LET another define it.
LET, verb (Latin elocare, to lease) - "to permit; to allow; to suffer; to give leave or power, to withhold restraint; not to prevent"...leasing to another; leashes self.
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You built your beliefs on fundamentally incorrect premises and then burned a strawman based on them. No wonder you don’t understand.
Does standing under inhibits ones growth on/within/from foundation?
a) Can the foundation (all perceivable) of existence (ones perception) be fundamentally incorrect?
b) What if foundation (inception towards death) corrects anything build within (life)...no matter how incorrect those within are building?
c) What if natural order (loss) corrects any erroneous chaos within (growth)?
d) Why is it called a departed mind (department) of corrections and why are the few "correcting" the departed minds of many by locking them up together?
Do you really believe that a war god of a random tribe in the Middle East is the Omnipotent and Omniscient God that created everything?
That’s just not possible, and since it isn’t, all the other claims of the Abrahamic religions fall apart like dominos.
Do you really believe your literal paid shilling is going to be believed just because you spammed it 6,000,001 times? Your buzzwords reveal you for what you are. Fuck off. It didn’t work.
Bro I’m not a paid shill, I’m literally a kid(young adult) who’s realized that everybody in my church is a bunch of hypocrites (including me) who don’t really care about others and spout sexual jokes. This combined with my knowledge of how messed up the world is with differences in iq, psychopaths and the fact that the abrahamic religions God started out as a local war god have all led me to believe that religion is false and we are some sort of genetic experiment.
Ah, that explains why you’re so vehemently wrong about things. You’ll learn.
Probably. And this somehow magically means that God doesn’t exist? Because you’re bad?
Don’t exist.
lol, by whom? God?
No, it made me start questioning my religion though.
What do you mean the abrahamic religions don’t exist. Explain yourself
No, by aliens which humans thought were divine creatures.
It’s not a category. There is nothing tying them together. There are no “abrahamic” religions. There are zero similarities. It’s like saying lemons, strawberries, and tomatoes are a category because they have seeds.
Come now.
Bro, please answer my question with a legit reasons that counter my points in the post.
Being implies in-between (life) beginning (inception) and end (death)...others suggest in the name of alpha to tempt one towards omega, hence leading cattle towards slaughter.
Whatever town or home one resides within implies the circumference of ones local being, hence one needing to locally shelter from circumference.
The Abrahamic religions are the Jews principal weapons for global domination, making most of the world believe in and worship the god of Israel
Many have used religion for selfish purposes. People have done the same with Science and yet it dies not cause an existential crises, why? People are selfish which is self limiting. The only way we accomplish more is by collectively learning to overcome this limitation. This is why Christianity is uniquely equipped. Is it a tool, yes. But it's more than that and you have the opportunity to experience that. So if we acknowledge that it's useful, what's to stop us from receiving that benefit?
Religion does have benefits and fulfills a need in man of solving our existential crisis and also enables us to become productive by following its principles. Selfishness is still there, but takes form in people in the church. Pastors care about money and there lavish lifestyles while believers and members form cliques inside the church instead of outside it. People only start caring about people inside of the church and cut off people that aren’t apart of it.
The premise that if you don’t follow its principles, you will go to hell is simply false though because religion itself is false. You also don’t need to be religious to follow these principles.
Religion still causes an us vs them mentality and causes problems such as suicide, wars, family problems, and broken friendships,
There are both positives and negatives to it, and either way, religion is false and you don’t need to be religious to follow a religions principles.
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What does this have to do with anything?
My friend, do you believe in speaking in tounges?
My friend, humans are the only animals on the planet that have the ability to comprehend religion. The differences in racial iq make it so that some races are more subhuman and animalistic than others, meaning that there culture will have a lot more violence and sin. This leads to some many troubles between races when they associate with each other thus making interracial connections very hard to establish. Why would the loving and caring god of the bible make intermingling between races hard because of hardwired differences if he all want us to be together. People literally have to cover up and lie about these racial differences so we can have some semblence of unity. The differences cannot be ignored and have created unfixable societal problems. This point alone makes me not able to believe in the God of the Bible.
My friend, the link you sent shows that some people are more inherently evil and less emotional than others, thus leading them to commit crimes that psychopaths commit. The fact that this is hardwired in there brain shows that they are born more sinful and therefore more non religious. Why would God make people mentally capable of committing such horrendous crimes. You also skipped over the point I made of some people existing who don't have the cognitive abilities to understand God. This point alone is enough to not make me believe in God.
God let diseases kill off 85%+ percent of the native americans without them hearing or caring about this so called omnipresent god. The fact that a omnipotent and omnipresent God let this happen disproves his religon to me. The Abrahamic Religions impact on the world is simply insignificant because millions have died without hearing about it, that is my point and im sticking with it.
Now you're moving the goalposts. You're basically claiming that all roads and religions lead to heaven as long as you do good actions. So I don't have to believe as long as I do good works?
Then what's the point of spreading the Gospel to every place on earth. Muslims have killed and persecuted millions of Christians who have refused to convert to islam, and vice versa. Islam has caused alot of division and always been a thorn in the religion that Jesus established. Why would God let such a religion take root. The fact that he did makes me not believe in him.
Yes, the bible i read told me that a tribe, that a lot of nations didn't know about at that time, was urged by a higher power to go take over a small plot of land in the middle east so that they could be an example to the whole earth. I know for a fact they would never be an example to the whole earth, even if they conquered the whole western world because millions all over the world still wouldn't have heard about the Israelites or God. The locality of these events lead me to believe they were led by advanced aliens and not a Omnipotent God. The differences in the genetic makeup of the races lead me to believe we are some sort of genetic experiment the aliens made.
Ok my friend, I guess lets agree to disagree. I just want to know if you believe in speaking in tounges and the gift of prophecy?
I wonder if this alien overlord species likes to bang toddlers too..?
Religion is a social construct. That's not quite the same thing as being false. And in many cases can be much worse.
If you're referring to the Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam then a better term to use imo would be a "tool". Instead of false.
Think of it as a tool, used for "mind control" before the modern concept of government and Cabal (e.g. WEF) controlled governments were created. Nowadays you don't need religion to control people any longer. Government, which is another tool, replaces religion. The word Government actually means mind control. It originates from Latin and splits into two words:1) guvernare meaning “to control” and 2) mens or mentis meaning “mind”.
Interesting, I do agree it is a tool used to control us and create controversy. Making us believe we are acting for and supporting the greater good, even though deep down we are all selfish humans at heart.
That's correct. Just like any other tool designed to brainwash and divide people. Without a doubt religion divides humankind. Of course there are people that respect other religions, but in general it stimulates wars and conflicts.
Don’t exist.
Religion (Latin religio; to bind anew) implies ones consent to anything suggested by another. All those who consent are being deceived to view the suggested as religion, while ignoring the mercantile contract underneath aka buy (consent) and sell (suggestion).
Why such a deception? Suggestion (information; fiction) tempts one to ignore Perception (inspiration; reality), while ones consent is permitting others to define (idolatry); redefine (revisionism) and contradict (talmudic reasoning) the suggested at will.
Consenting to suggested implies both sides aka want or not want; agree or disagree; belief or disbelief; consent or denial...this is what shapes conflicts of reason (want versus not want; agree vs disagree etc.).
Those conflicts of reason not only keep many fighting each other over suggestions by few; it also permits few control over both sides of every conflict of reason and the opportunity to rebrand the sides at will into for example...true vs false; yes vs no; good vs evil; rich vs poor; left vs right; black vs white; democrat vs republican, trump vs hillary; vaxxed vs unvaxxed; russia vs ukraine; soccer vs football; sega vs nintendo; vanilla vs chocolate; big mac vs whopper; us vs them, you vs me; jews vs gentiles; have vs have not and so on.
Reason (imbalance) tempts one to ignore implication (balance)...so instead of participating in any of the versus conflicts, try utilizing if/then instead.
From a different perspective...choice can only exist within balance, hence in-between sides (need/want). Others suggest sides (want vs not want) to tempt choice off-center.
Suggested want (appetite) tempts one to hold onto; while perceivable need (hunger) can't be held onto. Being implies need to resist wanted temptations...reasoning (want vs not want) tempts one to ignore need.