You can't blame AI for layoffs at the local manufacturing plant, and not even for most white collar jobs.
It's part of the long term "software is making us all more productive" yarn that they've (professional economists) been spinning since the 1980s though. It is true to a very limited extent.
Can't find a plumber without using online ads these days.... Can you afford billboards when the AI companies buy up the space like BlackRock did the houses.
People have no idea how much money plumbers and electricians make in comparison to the amount of work required. A little knowledge and a little elbow grease and your irreplaceable thanks to soy boys not knowing how to use a screw driver.
No offense but I see that insult thrown around all the time but it's just millenium speak that refers to people whom likely you have never met either.
Every person I know who is a man knows how to use a screwdriver and hammer, what they don't know how do is design shit or the right tools for the job, but these days everyone says 'watch YouTube and figured it out'....
So honestly. I think it's women and seniors and businesses that need plumbers...not the average guy.
I have installed a couple toilets, replaced a sink, a new shower, and removed a tub etc....none of us were plumbers...we didn't know what we were doing and we just got to it because we also didn't know any plumbers and had no money for plumbers.....so I think you are missing some stuff that is happening....it's not just....learn plumbing get work
.....
Yeah. Not many are completely incapable of doing some projects. But also you know the man who's work it is to do these things simply has more knowledge, experience, available tools, etc and it's worth me just paying them to do it.
Was actually just having a convo with a coworker about this yesterday. Every one wants to be a DIY'r until it comes to court and taxes don't they?!
Specialize in something yourself. For me this is finance. So my specialty is used to pay the man that specializes in plumbing. When the plumber takes his money and wants to know how to make more money with money he has he may come to me, as this is my specialty.
Of course I have installed sinks and hell I even worked on a job when I was much younger digging out a graded trench but that's somewhere around the time I realized I didn't want to do plumbing forever!! For these things I will gladly pay someone who has been in this work to use their knowledge, tools, and ability to solve my problem for me. This allows me to be freed up to continue to use my specialty for my clients. And on and on.
This is literally the fundamental elements of economics, it's been working like this since the dawn of civilization. It is good to know some plumbing and it is good to know some finance, it is good to know some of everything. But a day comes when one realizes they must learn all of one thing to
be of any value to others who simply had to make a choice with their time to learn something else. That's it.
Respect your plumbers. But also realize that the man without calloused hands is capable of installing a garbage disposal, it would just be strictly innifficient for him to do so.
I can also change my own oil and I was taught to do so to save money during a time when I had none. Well, now, it's more efficient for me to have the guys at jiffy lube do it in sub 15 minutes and also provide a coupon for a free car wash! I can't beat that for using no energy of my own.
It's simply no longer efficient for me to do some small things myself, and for things that are above my head I am then reliant on those plumbers to solve these problems for me so I gladly pay them what they need as it would be doubly inefficient for me to solve the problem myself.
I see a lot of job posts for AI engineers, by corporations, and I'm getting the sense that many companies do not have a clear picture of how they will use AI to replace people, they're going 'me too' and now performing exploration. We will see how that plays out in 2024.
The only ones I see that know their plan are the ones planning to automate some online customer service operations, most likely to replace Indian call center personnel. (Who don't know jack shit, so it is an improvement.)
There also will be some fast food service automation but I suspect there will be problems if they try to use speech recognition on the front end drive-throughs.
Beware however of AI deployed to make judgements such as in banking and in health insurance. I think some end people, customers, will get stamped on. I know from personal experience that AI used in HR is absolutely terrible, discriminatory, and very very stupid. It only knows key words and will reject a qualified resume simply because of not seeing them. I actually had the experience of being the only person in the US experienced in a particular technology because I created it, and the company was looking for help with it, and the HR AI rejected me through misparsing the data. There is a shit-ton of companies in NJ selling badly written AI for resume screening.
For sure, AI is being further used in media control and the technology keeps getting better and better.
AI is being used in farming to apply herbicide. Cameras on the tractor identify the plants to target and spray them only. It's not so much that it replaces a job as much as it's about limiting chemicals sprayed in a field (reducing input cost and being more friendly to the environment) Robotics has a long way to go before AI can replace some jobs, but the time will come
Yes, and not only that, they now use AI technology to precisely spray nutrients on plants, unlike before when farmers mass-sprayed. So the newest technology is saving money for farmers on materials and not depositing excess nitrogen (thus good for the environment like reducing water pollution). I was amazed that there's good AI / robotics development in the old Midwest. On the other hand, it's in Iowa and Illinois, where there are no Playboy Mansions.
In the real world, many data scientists are balless wonders. What pains me is that many in AI are either geeks or Indian or Chinese opportunists. But I'm biased in observation, as the Bay Area population is not a normal distribution. Google Street View of Sunnyvale shows so many Indian restaurants.
What does it mean to be "in AI"? You got an undergrad in comp sci by building a breadboard, learned C and JS, and then talked someone into paying you to interface with an open source cleverbot?
Without doxing myself, I'm one of the people doing fundamental research (and development), writing textbooks for the next generation of AI, and I've solved a couple of previously unsolved fundamental problems. I'm down in Silicon Valley and not up in SF with the Open AI guys. And I'm working on some breakthrough AI products. Beyond that, you may ask me questions about AI but no personal questions. And no, my name is not Stark.
Yes, plus one more piece. They will milk the shit out of their crappy AI. In fact the mor broken it is the better for their purposes.
They do not need a powerful AI, just a popular one which can take as much attention away from everything else.
It is literally the new insidious version of engagement control. They do not care about quality just that it gets wrapped around people's subconscious.
The AI is mostly tailored for simple ask and reply situations which rely on the built in assumption that any 'legimate' use of the AI will be seeking it's help and will naturally not possess the information which will be provided by the AI since the user would likely not ask. At the same time, things which people do commonly know can be accounted for and provide the most commonly expected answers for queries when some one 'does' know the answer.
Any time it cannot answer a complex question it will be explained away as either the 'prompt' was not smart enough....need to know how to ask what we do not for...you didn't say the magic word....please simp....
And the new hand wave is that....of course it is not yet AGI and we are in the 'fine tuning' stage and that the power comes from the intersection of private and public ..... In other words....those who have been tracking you are still valuable....in fact they are the only valuable companies....
You can't blame AI for layoffs at the local manufacturing plant, and not even for most white collar jobs.
It's part of the long term "software is making us all more productive" yarn that they've (professional economists) been spinning since the 1980s though. It is true to a very limited extent.
Can't AI your plumbing.
Tell me that when your toilet is shitting into your investment.
Can't find a plumber without using online ads these days.... Can you afford billboards when the AI companies buy up the space like BlackRock did the houses.
I'm a plumber, I make plenty of money without a single ad now.
People have no idea how much money plumbers and electricians make in comparison to the amount of work required. A little knowledge and a little elbow grease and your irreplaceable thanks to soy boys not knowing how to use a screw driver.
No offense but I see that insult thrown around all the time but it's just millenium speak that refers to people whom likely you have never met either.
Every person I know who is a man knows how to use a screwdriver and hammer, what they don't know how do is design shit or the right tools for the job, but these days everyone says 'watch YouTube and figured it out'....
So honestly. I think it's women and seniors and businesses that need plumbers...not the average guy.
I have installed a couple toilets, replaced a sink, a new shower, and removed a tub etc....none of us were plumbers...we didn't know what we were doing and we just got to it because we also didn't know any plumbers and had no money for plumbers.....so I think you are missing some stuff that is happening....it's not just....learn plumbing get work .....
Yeah. Not many are completely incapable of doing some projects. But also you know the man who's work it is to do these things simply has more knowledge, experience, available tools, etc and it's worth me just paying them to do it.
Was actually just having a convo with a coworker about this yesterday. Every one wants to be a DIY'r until it comes to court and taxes don't they?!
Specialize in something yourself. For me this is finance. So my specialty is used to pay the man that specializes in plumbing. When the plumber takes his money and wants to know how to make more money with money he has he may come to me, as this is my specialty.
Of course I have installed sinks and hell I even worked on a job when I was much younger digging out a graded trench but that's somewhere around the time I realized I didn't want to do plumbing forever!! For these things I will gladly pay someone who has been in this work to use their knowledge, tools, and ability to solve my problem for me. This allows me to be freed up to continue to use my specialty for my clients. And on and on.
This is literally the fundamental elements of economics, it's been working like this since the dawn of civilization. It is good to know some plumbing and it is good to know some finance, it is good to know some of everything. But a day comes when one realizes they must learn all of one thing to be of any value to others who simply had to make a choice with their time to learn something else. That's it.
Respect your plumbers. But also realize that the man without calloused hands is capable of installing a garbage disposal, it would just be strictly innifficient for him to do so.
I can also change my own oil and I was taught to do so to save money during a time when I had none. Well, now, it's more efficient for me to have the guys at jiffy lube do it in sub 15 minutes and also provide a coupon for a free car wash! I can't beat that for using no energy of my own.
It's simply no longer efficient for me to do some small things myself, and for things that are above my head I am then reliant on those plumbers to solve these problems for me so I gladly pay them what they need as it would be doubly inefficient for me to solve the problem myself.
Specialize, specialize, specialize.
New viruses struck out, regional wars struck out, so time to bring in the heavy hitter
You don’t know what “ai” is
It isn’t what you think and they want you to believe.
It’s autocorrect on steroids and it isn’t an existential threat, especially if idiots don’t put faith in it that it doesn’t deserve.
You missed steps too.
the first ai stuff released was way better than the current versions.
so they have way better ai. it does exist already.
looks like they chopped a chunk off and let us the peon public have it.
but it was still too good. they've been nerfing it since day 1 now.
a few years from now all the 'ai' we can get to will be pure useless crap.
I agree, and I am in AI.
I see a lot of job posts for AI engineers, by corporations, and I'm getting the sense that many companies do not have a clear picture of how they will use AI to replace people, they're going 'me too' and now performing exploration. We will see how that plays out in 2024.
The only ones I see that know their plan are the ones planning to automate some online customer service operations, most likely to replace Indian call center personnel. (Who don't know jack shit, so it is an improvement.)
There also will be some fast food service automation but I suspect there will be problems if they try to use speech recognition on the front end drive-throughs.
Beware however of AI deployed to make judgements such as in banking and in health insurance. I think some end people, customers, will get stamped on. I know from personal experience that AI used in HR is absolutely terrible, discriminatory, and very very stupid. It only knows key words and will reject a qualified resume simply because of not seeing them. I actually had the experience of being the only person in the US experienced in a particular technology because I created it, and the company was looking for help with it, and the HR AI rejected me through misparsing the data. There is a shit-ton of companies in NJ selling badly written AI for resume screening.
For sure, AI is being further used in media control and the technology keeps getting better and better.
AI is being used in farming to apply herbicide. Cameras on the tractor identify the plants to target and spray them only. It's not so much that it replaces a job as much as it's about limiting chemicals sprayed in a field (reducing input cost and being more friendly to the environment) Robotics has a long way to go before AI can replace some jobs, but the time will come
Yes, and not only that, they now use AI technology to precisely spray nutrients on plants, unlike before when farmers mass-sprayed. So the newest technology is saving money for farmers on materials and not depositing excess nitrogen (thus good for the environment like reducing water pollution). I was amazed that there's good AI / robotics development in the old Midwest. On the other hand, it's in Iowa and Illinois, where there are no Playboy Mansions.
In the real world, many data scientists are balless wonders. What pains me is that many in AI are either geeks or Indian or Chinese opportunists. But I'm biased in observation, as the Bay Area population is not a normal distribution. Google Street View of Sunnyvale shows so many Indian restaurants.
What does it mean to be "in AI"? You got an undergrad in comp sci by building a breadboard, learned C and JS, and then talked someone into paying you to interface with an open source cleverbot?
Or is it actually way more in-depth?
Without doxing myself, I'm one of the people doing fundamental research (and development), writing textbooks for the next generation of AI, and I've solved a couple of previously unsolved fundamental problems. I'm down in Silicon Valley and not up in SF with the Open AI guys. And I'm working on some breakthrough AI products. Beyond that, you may ask me questions about AI but no personal questions. And no, my name is not Stark.
Yes, plus one more piece. They will milk the shit out of their crappy AI. In fact the mor broken it is the better for their purposes.
They do not need a powerful AI, just a popular one which can take as much attention away from everything else.
It is literally the new insidious version of engagement control. They do not care about quality just that it gets wrapped around people's subconscious.
The AI is mostly tailored for simple ask and reply situations which rely on the built in assumption that any 'legimate' use of the AI will be seeking it's help and will naturally not possess the information which will be provided by the AI since the user would likely not ask. At the same time, things which people do commonly know can be accounted for and provide the most commonly expected answers for queries when some one 'does' know the answer.
Any time it cannot answer a complex question it will be explained away as either the 'prompt' was not smart enough....need to know how to ask what we do not for...you didn't say the magic word....please simp....
And the new hand wave is that....of course it is not yet AGI and we are in the 'fine tuning' stage and that the power comes from the intersection of private and public ..... In other words....those who have been tracking you are still valuable....in fact they are the only valuable companies....
Ads ....just ads....
marketing people at my last job were not amused when I used AI to duplicate their "trademark" visual style for a product concept
FF 20 years and the only jobs for humans are fixing the robots.