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What they decided to leave out of the King James version
posted 1 year ago by Chachiex 1 year ago by Chachiex +14 / -3

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against the kings, against the authorities, and against the rulers of the darkness of this world; against the spiritual forces of iniquity which are in the high place.

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– CrazyRussian 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Really, source is even more interesting.

Words that translated as "kings", "authorites", "rulers", "spiritual forces of iniquity" are really "ἀρχή", "ἐξουσία", "κοσμοκράτωρ", "πνευματικός πονηρία ". i.e. "archon", "power", "cosmocrator", "spiritual corruption/illness".

It is not about some exact persons, but about concepts of such statuses and powers that corrupt and destroy human spirit

IDK, it's like not "against Biden" or whoever is US president, but "against existence of status, position and power of US President".

First part directly point that out - "not against flesh and blood", i.e. not against some physical person (who obviously will be just replaced with another one) but against the idea of some "supreme ruler".

I think New Testament would have been instantly banned in modern West if it was translated word-to-word from original with same meaning kept.

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– Michalusmichalus 0 points 1 year ago +1 / -1

It's almost always on the list of angels.

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– free-will-of-choice 0 points 1 year ago +2 / -2

concepts that corrupt

Concept aka "that which can be framed within mind"...ones consent permits others to frame suggested information within ones mind/memory.

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– TallestSkil 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Literally right here.

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– Chachiex [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I guess king james*'s* version wasn't going to say kings are evil

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– TallestSkil 3 points 1 year ago +5 / -2

Literally did, though.

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– ApathySK 3 points 1 year ago +4 / -1

What am I missing? It's in both my kjv and nkjv bibles.

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– ReturnOfShillSlayer 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

The gospel of Judas.

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– Burninator 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Where can I verify this?

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– Chachiex [S] 3 points 1 year ago +5 / -2

The Geneva translation before KJV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%206%3A12&version=RGT

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– TallestSkil 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Says the same thing. Language shifts. The 1611 and the 1769 KJV differ because of linguistic shifts (ß was removed from English, for example). The words remain the same.

Now, you want to talk about FALSE translations, I’m all about that. Let’s do it. The NWT talks about marshmallows as though we’re going to believe that.

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– Chachiex [S] 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

No way there really were marsh mellows in pre Islamic Egypt

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– TallestSkil 2 points 1 year ago +4 / -2

The plant, but that’s not what they’re saying here.

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– Chachiex [S] 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

Ha ha ha still laughing

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– TallestSkil 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Every single Bible website on the Internet, also every physical bible.

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– free-will-of-choice -1 points 1 year ago +2 / -3

authorities

Ones consent authorizes the suggestions of others.

rulers of the darkness

Ignoring (dark) perceivable (bright) permits others to rule by suggestion, which exploits ones ignorance, while obfuscating ones perception.

king

German König; from kuning aka CUNNING (possessing knowledge). Perceivable (inspiration) cannot be held onto; hence others tempting one to claim (consent) possession over suggested (information).

the high place

Intelligence (Latin intelligo; to understand) implies ones consent to "stand under" the suggestions of another, hence elevating others onto a higher place than the submissive self.

An allegory...if one puts others onto a pedestal; then one digs self into a pit.

forces of iniquity (hostile)

If audience (life) ignores host (inception towards death), then shit gets hostile. On the other hand...if audience adapts to host; then it remains hospitable.

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