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posted 2 years ago by DrLeaks 2 years ago by DrLeaks +14 / -1
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– ReturnOfShillSlayer 4 points 2 years ago +5 / -1

PTSD is a helluva drug

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– Thisisnotanexit 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

What does this mean? Edit: That to this

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– logonbump 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

It means there are no atheists in foxholes

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– Thisisnotanexit 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Ah so, God is in foxholes too. It matters most when the rubber meets the road, it's easy until it's not and then what, ya know.

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– CrazyRussian -3 points 2 years ago +1 / -4

PTSD does not exist. This shit was invented by US military to cover the fact that they intentionally hired/drafted mentally ill men into army. Mentally ill soldier did shit at war, went even more crazy and retrun back home with completely broken mind.

There was no any PTSD after WWII in USSR. And obviously, Russian soldiers and civilians expirienced much more war shit than any US soldier or civilian at any given time and in much larger quantities. Of course they had some skills, habits and developed enhanced senses and reaction useful in battle or under attack, but they was completely normal and succesfully rebuild country after severe war, made healthy families and lived normal lives. Today, those who come back from Ukraine war also don't have any of that PTSD shit. Usual people with military past, similar to generation that won WWII, nothing more.

Of course war is horrible, but it could not do severe mental damage to the mentally stable human. Fighting against enemy is a normal human behaviour, basic instinct to protect family, etnicity and nation. Normal things don't fuck normal people minds.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

After the American Civil War, they called PSTD "soldier's heart" after and during WWI it was called "shell shock" and many soldiers from all nations had it. In literature, Odysseus in the Odyssey sure acts like his had PTSD. There are lots of examples historically.

You lost a couple notches of respect from me for sheer ignorance, like Russians are supermen and never had shell shock. Get the fuck out.

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– CrazyRussian 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

After the American Civil War, they called PSTD "soldier's heart"

So, no any scientific, measureable and proven by experiments facts. Some feelings and literary forms.

after and during WWI it was called "shell shock" and many soldiers from all nations had it.

"Shell shock" is just a mechanical brain concussion caused by nearby blast pressure wave. Not any different from any other consussion by consequences and repair. If brain was not irreversibly damaged, then there could not be any consequences for mental health. It have absolutely nothing to do with what is posed as PTSD at all.

Of course, soldiers in war could get severe, brain damaging concussion from a blast (shell shock) or a shrapnel inside a skull that damaged part of brain. This could cause mental problems. But it is brain injury that causes mental problems, not the fact of their participation in war. Just like brain injury and following mental issues due to car accident or employment injury.

Soldiers could get wounded. But they can't suddenly become insane just because they participated in battles.

In literature, Odysseus in the Odyssey sure acts like his had PTSD. There are lots of examples historically.

Do you understand that Odysseus is a fictional person?

like Russians are supermen and never had shell shock.

Russians are just normal humans, and that's all. And "shell shock" just like other concussions is nothing special or exceptional for us. It's just consussion, nothing more. We don't create fictional things to cover up some shit.

And this "Superman" thing - it is not occasional, that you used that cultural reference. Don't you find interesting, that Russians have no any need or tradition to create fictional heroes with superpowers? We don't have "supermen" or "superheroes" with "superpowers" in our culture. Our heroes are real ones, even those from ancient legends. If American cultural elite like to make up fictional heroes, it is pretty valid to assume that they will actively make up other non-existent things, like PTSD. It's just kind of cultiral thing - make up things that does not exist if it suitable for something.

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– 1baldeagle 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Interesting points

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– Mad_King_Kalak 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

What a silly, silly response. Something measured and weighed via modern psychology doesn't exist to you?

Here's one for you then. Give me the experimental proof of consciousness. Come on now, let's see the double blind peer review studies where we measure it.

You aren't using the right definition for shell shock, btw. Even George Carlin understood that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psMrA78qygM

Here's your early studies on shell shock. https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/medicine-on-the-western-front-part-two/shell-shock-cases/

Modern studies on PTSD a summary: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/neuroscience/posttraumatic-stress-disorder

Russians are human like everyone else, and they had shell shock, or PTSD, like everyone else.

Do you think, perhaps, that Homer, one of the world's greatest poets, didn't know or interact with any Greek warriors?

You need to just stop the hole you're digging. It's disgraceful.

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– deleted 3 points 2 years ago +4 / -1
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– CrazyRussian -2 points 2 years ago +2 / -4

Do you have any scientific proofs, confirmed by independent experiments that PTSD exists? Obviously no. Sorry, but your PTSD crap is just another hoax.

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– deleted 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0
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