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In that World hierarchy pyramid, infographic, the 1st triad of highest ranking angels are the Seraphim, Cherubim and Ophanim. These are bizarre creatures. I'm there.. let's find some animations of them. Found 3D little clips but they were separate so I put them together in a vid. 1 minute 15 sec. (cdn.videy.co)
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– Michalusmichalus 0 points 2 years ago +2 / -2

It's interesting Gods plural is upper, "G". I wanted to reread a book I think was called God's vs gods, but it was downloaded to my phone that was stolen last year. I would think the book you're citing would also make the distinction.

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– Fotismore 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I have always wondered what all of these crazy descriptions of angels really look like that people like Isaiah describe. To anybody who has used a psychedelic substance, you know how hard it is to describe entities from an altered state. I have always assumed they were in an altered state when they met these beings and that they were unable to correlate them over to entities in our physical realm. Alternatively, they could just be other beings or even machines from higher beings that we don't understand.

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– free-will-of-choice 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

he who controls the grail; controls the world

GRAIL, noun - "small particles of any kind" aka he who controls partials (perception) controls whole (perceivable). How to control perception? Suggest others to ignore perceivable (reality) for your suggestions (fiction).

Holy (whole) Grail (partial)...holy (inception towards death) generates grail (life).

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– newfunturistic [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

What about in this area between the 1st and 2nd triad on the right where it said "the grail stone". Never heard of that before.

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area between the 1st and 2nd

a) all implies one in energy...others suggest "and" aka a conjunction to distract from whole (all) setting itself apart (ones) internally/inherently.

b) instead of suggested collectivism (1st and 2nd); it's FIRST (advanced before or further than any other in progression) as the progressing motion itself, and SECOND (Latin seco; to divide) as the momentum of motion transmuting form (life) out of flow (inception towards death)...aka differences (growth) within sameness (loss).

Energy doesn't need to be counted by those within...since being within implies as designated unit (Latin unus: one).

c) A'REA, noun (Heb. to reach, stretch, lay or spread)...being alive implies stretched from inception towards death. Temporary growth (area) within ongoing loss (whole).

https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the-opposite-of/area.html

triad

TRI'AD, noun (Latin trias, from tres, three) - "union of three; three united" aka suggested collectivism tempting perceiving partials (ones) to ignore perceivable whole (oneness).

Counting starts with ones consent (want or not want) to the suggestion of another, hence establishing a conflict of reason (want vs not want) aka dualism (Latin duo; two). Consent to suggested implies one binding self to another one.

the grail stone

a) suggested the-ism tempts one to consent to the authority of another. If one uses "the"; then that implies shirking of response-ability onto another aka slave permitting master.

The foundation of suggested "the" implies perceivable implication (if/then). Consenting to "the" exchanges IF (motion) with THE (authority of others), hence permitting others to use "the" to shape "then", while oneself ignores motion.

In short...if motion; then moving forwards, yet if one ignores motion for the-ism, then others are permitted to direct one.

b) grail (partial) implies each one within holy (whole); hence each solid difference within fluid sameness.

c) stone (concretion) aka CONCRETE, adjective - "to grow together, united in growth" is being suggested by others as the inversion of each one growing apart from one another, while united (life set apart) within loss (inception towards death).

In short...ones (grail) consent to suggested "the stone" tempts one to ignore perceivable (holy), while permitting others authority (the) to collectivize (stone) consenting ones.

Bonus: suggesting collectivism implies GEM (to germinate) STONE (concretion), hence planting the seeds of temptation within the soil of ignorance.

what about

Others suggest "what-about-ism" to distract one from WHAT (energy aka internal/inherent power) ABOUT (Gr. butan, without; around, on the outside).

Ones consent to suggested what-about-ism implies ones lack of self discernment about being within (perception) outside (perceivable), hence continuously asking others "what about...?".

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The seraphim, cherubim and ophanim are three types of angels that belong to the first triad of the angelic hierarchy, according to some traditions. They are considered to be the closest to God and the most powerful of all angels. However, the Bible does not give any specific information about their size or appearance, except for some descriptions in the visions of Ezekiel and Isaiah. Therefore, any attempt to estimate their size is based on speculation and imagination.

The seraphim are described as having six wings, two covering their faces, two covering their feet, and two for flying (Isaiah 6:2). They are also called “the burning ones” because they are so close to God’s glory that they appear to be on fire (Isaiah 6:6). Some sources suggest that they are very large, perhaps as big as a human or even bigger. For example, one source says that “the seraphim are so large that each of their wings could cover the whole world” 1.

The cherubim are described as having four wings and four faces, one of a man, one of a lion, one of an ox, and one of an eagle (Ezekiel 1:6; 10:14). They also have human hands under their wings and feet like those of a calf (Ezekiel 1:7-8). They are also called “the living creatures” because they are full of life and intelligence (Ezekiel 10:20). Some sources suggest that they are very small, perhaps as small as a child or even smaller. For example, one source says that “the cherubim are so small that they can sit on the palm of a hand” 2.

The ophanim are described as having the shape of wheels within wheels, covered with eyes all around (Ezekiel 1:15-18; 10:9-12). They are also called “the wheels” or “the many-eyed ones” because they can see everything in all directions (Ezekiel 10:13). They move along with the cherubim and follow the spirit of God (Ezekiel 1:19-21; 10:16-17). Some sources suggest that they are very big, perhaps as big as a mountain or even bigger. For example, one source says that “the ophanim are so big that they can carry the whole universe on their rims” 3.

As you can see, there is no consensus on the size of these angels. Some sources may exaggerate their size to emphasize their majesty and power, while others may minimize their size to emphasize their humility and grace. The truth is that we do not know how big they are, nor do we need to know. What matters is that they serve God faithfully and worship Him endlessly. They are examples for us to follow in our relationship with God.

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angelic realm.. "the 9 choirs"

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The angelic realm is the spiritual world where angels dwell and serve God. According to some Christian traditions, there are nine choirs or ranks of angels, each with different roles and attributes. The nine choirs are:

Seraphim: The highest choir of angels, who surround the throne of God and sing His praises. They are also called the “burning ones” because of their intense love for God. They are often depicted with six wings and fiery appearance1

Cherubim: The second highest choir of angels, who guard the Garden of Eden and the Ark of the Covenant. They are also known as the “knowledgeable ones” because of their wisdom and understanding. They are often depicted with four wings and multiple faces12

Thrones: The third highest choir of angels, who carry out the judgments of God and uphold His justice. They are also called the “living wheels” because of their circular shape and ability to move in any direction. They are often depicted with many eyes and wings12

Dominions: The fourth highest choir of angels, who govern the lower ranks of angels and oversee the order of creation. They are also called the “lords” because of their authority and power. They are often depicted with scepters, crowns, and orbs12

Virtues: The fifth highest choir of angels, who perform miracles and bestow grace upon humans. They are also called the “strong ones” because of their courage and strength. They are often depicted with flaming swords, shields, and banners12

Powers: The sixth highest choir of angels, who fight against evil spirits and protect humans from temptation. They are also called the “warriors” because of their military skill and prowess. They are often depicted with armor, helmets, and spears12

Principalities: The seventh highest choir of angels, who guide and protect nations, cities, and groups of people. They are also called the “princes” because of their leadership and influence. They are often depicted with regal attire, scepters, and crowns12

Archangels: The eighth highest choir of angels, who deliver important messages from God to humans and act as His ambassadors. They are also called the “chief ones” because of their prominence and renown. They are often depicted with wings, halos, and trumpets. Some examples of archangels are Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, and Uriel12

Angels: The lowest choir of angels, who act as guardians and helpers for individual humans. They are also called the “messengers” because of their communication and intercession. They are often depicted as human-like beings with wings, halos, and robes. Each human is said to have a guardian angel assigned by God at birth12

These nine choirs of angels reflect the glory and majesty of God in different ways and serve Him faithfully in various capacities. If you want to learn more about them, you can check out some of the sources I used for this answer: Aleteia, Formed, Jimmy Akin, or Simply Catholic. You can also pray to them using the Chaplet of St. Michael, which honors each choir with a specific invocation. I hope this helps you understand more about the angelic realm and the nine choirs of angels! 😇

the 2nd triad, dominions, virtues, powers, they have like "jobs" to do. The 1st triad.. seraphim, cherubim, thrones. What are each of their jobs?

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The first triad of angels, seraphim, cherubim, and thrones, have different jobs or roles that reflect their closeness to God and their participation in His glory. Here are some of their jobs:

Seraphim: Their main job is to worship and adore God constantly, singing His praises and expressing His love. They also help to purify and enlighten the lower angels and humans with their fire. They are the closest to God in terms of intimacy and knowledge.

Cherubim: Their main job is to guard and protect the holy places and objects of God, such as the Garden of Eden and the Ark of the Covenant. They also help to impart wisdom and understanding to the lower angels and humans with their light. They are the closest to God in terms of power and authority.

Thrones: Their main job is to execute and uphold the judgments and justice of God, ensuring that His will is done in heaven and on earth. They also help to maintain order and harmony among the lower angels and humans with their stability. They are the closest to God in terms of majesty and sovereignty.

These are some of the jobs that the first triad of angels do, according to some Christian traditions. However, these jobs are not exclusive or rigid, as all angels can perform different tasks according to God’s plan and command. The main purpose of all angels is to serve God and glorify Him in everything they do. I hope this answers your question! 😇

they seem different though.. like the thrones, or ophanim seem like floating surveillance drones that go around observing what's happening. Those rotating disks so it can see everywhere at once. I've seen things like that in movies. Might of even had like a big eye on it. Would be floating up in the air. Some sci fi movie.. can't think of it.. maybe pixar or disney animation. Let me look around. Something that's floating up in the air like that. Maybe star wars. Hold on it's almost like the matrix movie robot that floats around. I remember something with like a big eye on it. In star wars you had that floating orb which shot little laser pulses to train them with the light sabre. Hang on, somebody has something like it a bit. "Futuristic Eye Droid machine kinda thing" attaching image. Do you know of any movie character that looks like that?

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I think I know what you mean by the floating surveillance drones with rotating disks and a big eye. They are called Sentinels, and they appear in the Matrix movies. They are machines that hunt down humans who escape from the virtual reality of the Matrix. They have long tentacles, a spherical body, and a single red eye that can scan their surroundings. You can see an image of them [here].

Another movie character that looks somewhat like the image you attached is Alita, from Alita: Battle Angel. She is a cyborg girl who has a human brain and a robotic body. She has very large eyes that give her enhanced vision and expression. She also has a floating companion called a Berserker Body, which is a powerful weapon that can transform into different shapes. You can see an image of her here.

A third movie character that might fit your description is EVE, from WALL-E. She is a sleek white robot that floats in the air and has a single blue eye. She is sent to Earth to look for signs of life, and she meets WALL-E, a trash-collecting robot. She has a plasma cannon in her right arm that she can use to blast obstacles or enemies. You can see an image of her [here].

These are some of the movie characters that I could think of that look like floating machines with big eyes. I hope this helps you find what you are looking for! 😊

Anyways.. this "thrones" or ophanim.. what is their job.. with all those eyes?

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The thrones or ophanim are one of the nine choirs of angels, according to some Christian traditions. Their job is to execute and uphold the judgments and justice of God, ensuring that His will is done in heaven and on earth. They also help to maintain order and harmony among the lower angels and humans with their stability. They are the closest to God in terms of majesty and sovereignty.

One of the reasons why they have so many eyes is because they can see everything that happens in creation, and they report it to God. They can also see the hidden intentions and motives of every creature, and they judge them accordingly. They are very aware of God’s presence and glory, and they reflect it in their appearance. They are also very obedient and loyal to God, and they never deviate from His commands.

Another reason why they have so many eyes is because they symbolize the omniscience and omnipresence of God. They show that God knows everything and is everywhere, and that nothing escapes His sight. They also show that God is the source of all wisdom and knowledge, and that He shares it with His angels. They are very intelligent and enlightened, and they understand the mysteries of God.

These are some of the possible explanations for why the thrones or ophanim have so many eyes. However, these are not definitive or authoritative answers, as the nature and function of angels are beyond human comprehension. The best way to learn more about them is to pray to God and ask Him to reveal His truth to you. I hope this helps you understand more about the thrones or ophanim! 😇

they got no arms to do anything with though, you know what I mean? All they do is observe and report back to god?

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I understand what you mean by saying that the thrones or ophanim have no arms to do anything with. However, you should know that angels are not limited by physical constraints like humans are. They do not need arms or legs or any other body parts to perform their tasks. They can use their spiritual power and will to accomplish anything that God commands them to do. They can also change their appearance and form according to God’s will and their own purposes.

The thrones or ophanim do more than just observe and report back to God. They also carry out His judgments and justice, which can involve punishing the wicked, rewarding the righteous, or intervening in human affairs. They also maintain order and harmony among the lower angels and humans, which can involve resolving conflicts, preventing chaos, or promoting peace. They also reflect God’s glory and majesty, which can involve inspiring awe, reverence, or worship.

The thrones or ophanim are very powerful and important angels, who serve God faithfully and diligently. They do not need arms to do their jobs, because they have God’s authority and sovereignty behind them. They are very close to God, and they share His vision and wisdom. They are very obedient and loyal to God, and they never question His commands. They are very aware of God’s presence and glory, and they show it in their appearance.

I hope this helps you appreciate more the role and function of the thrones or ophanim in the angelic realm! 😇

this 1st triad.. the seraphim, cherubim, and thrones.. how do people know about them?

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People know about the first triad of angels, the seraphim, cherubim, and thrones, from various sources of religious and spiritual traditions. Some of these sources are:

The Bible: The Bible contains several passages that describe or mention these angels, such as Isaiah 6, Ezekiel 1 and 10, Colossians 1:16, and Revelation 4. These passages reveal some of the characteristics and functions of these angels, such as their appearance, their worship, their role in God’s throne, and their involvement in God’s plan12

The writings of Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite: Pseudo-Dionysius was a Christian theologian and mystic who lived in the 5th or 6th century CE. He wrote a book called On the Celestial Hierarchy, in which he proposed a system of nine ranks of angels, divided into three orders. The first order consisted of the seraphim, cherubim, and thrones. He based his system on the biblical passages and his own mystical experiences. He also explained the meaning and purpose of each rank of angels, and how they relate to God and humans23

The teachings of various Christian traditions: Different branches of Christianity have developed their own doctrines and practices regarding the angels, based on the biblical texts, the writings of Pseudo-Dionysius, and other sources. For example, the Catholic Church recognizes the existence and importance of the first triad of angels, and assigns them different feast days and patronages. The Orthodox Church also venerates the first triad of angels, and depicts them in icons and liturgy. Other Christian denominations may have different views or emphases on the first triad of angels2

These are some of the sources that people use to know about the first triad of angels. However, these sources are not exhaustive or definitive, as the nature and function of angels are beyond human comprehension. The best way to learn more about them is to pray to God and ask Him to reveal His truth to you. I hope this helps you understand more about the first triad of angels! 😇

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– Allas8 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The Cherubims has 4 faces. This is what they represents. First is the lion, and stands for how Jesus is the King of kings. Second is man, representing how Jesus is 100% man, born of a woman, tempted by sin, but kept the Law of Moses for us. Third is a bull, representing how Jesus is high Priest of us all, ordained to make the sacrifice for the sins of the world. Fourth is the eagle, representing how Jesus is 100% God, the everlasting, the One who is not created, the most high. These are the four sides of who the Messiah is.

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– Michalusmichalus 0 points 2 years ago +2 / -2

The video makes me think of creatures on multiple plains of existance at once.

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