I hear conspiracy theorizing-types talk about how many shills there are online leaving comments and it just got me curious if there's any rational/evidence-based reason for thinking that this is really a thing? What makes people so confident they are dealing with "shills" and not just people who disagree with them? These views are fringe and controversial after all so I don't see why it couldn't just be normal and expected pushback...
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Have you not met eisentard?
no i do not know who this is
Ironically it’s a guy on this site who doesn’t blindly agree with everything posted here and is thus called a shill. While this confirms your notion that “anyone who disagrees must be a shill” definitely does happen, I do think 100% that at least on larger sites like Reddit, paid shills absolutely are everywhere.
Yes. I was offered jobs, probably fakes, dunno how they got my number, the salary was absurd. Writing comments for a bunch of online adverts. Because after Big Tech exposure, they're paid shit. Literally cents. Until it uses A.I. Or troll groups. These have regular salaries. Unless they're Chinese and Indians.
They used shills, and troll groups, repeatedly in COVID. They've been using them since social media. Bots, shills, the press commenting on its own feces.
Read Reddit.
Word on the street used to be sent by 'tweet'......the carrier pigeon....a little bird told me.
As part of Operation Mockingbird, literally thousands of jobs were created in the form of 'influencers' of chatrooms, comment sections, etc. Creating websites and influencers....Youtube has conferences to groom them. You know, for success.
About creating a false narrative that everyone would repeat. Black bloggers are the cleanup crew, doing dirty work.
All methods utilized so to tag it as any one group or method is impossible.
It appears as 'grassroots' when it isn't.
Some shills 'know better' and some don't, but they all feel their actions are justified by a larger cause they share.
Add digital bots to the mix and you get chaos as planned.
More likely bots. But shills do exist, I'll bet.
You could check miscellaneous groups/communities that direct shills activity in social media - different "climate activists", "LGBTXYZ+ supporters", "NAFO", "ADL" and so on. It's pretty easy. You will find a tons of direct orders - "here is a poll, we should wreck it", "this should be downvoted" and so on. Then just observe how shills fulfill their orders.
As for occasional encounters, shills are easy to detect too - they can't support normal conversations, never answer simple and reasonable questions in dialogues and do not show any ability to provide apropriate reasoning arguments.
When you talk with a normal user, you have a nice natural human conversation and see logical reasoning and clarifying of the opponent points as needed, his own thoughts and so on. You could disagree with him, but you can't deny his authentic thinking. With a shill you see just a stream of patterns and full spectre of conversation tricks to keep his stream of patterns flowing.
Unnatural conversation is what reveal shill in the person. Simple as that.
China has comment farms that our contracted to give millions of positive reviews and impressions two products on Amazon and apps on Google Play. Combine this with the Advent of AI, the multitude of profiles on regular social media that don't have any posts but somehow have opinions on a very specific issue, and the practice of sock puppet accounts that multiple people have been caught doing, and it would not be unreasonable to suspect shilling or botting.
It is the job of every marketing agency.
Why? Because we know its happening in some cases, like with monsanto.
https://www.wisnerbaum.com/blog/2017/may/monsanto-paid-internet-trolls-to-counter-bad-pub/
So the question is, why wouldnt people with billions or even millions of dollars do it?
If you want, it shouldnt be hard to find my thread in the r/novascotia subreddit about refrigerant poisoning, should show up with a google search. The mod there doesnt have some hidden agenda, he never deleted my posts.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NovaScotia/comments/ml2ozx/can_freon_cause_irregular_heartbeat/
Tell me im crazy, that these rarely used reddit accounts telling me, "come on now... it wasnt that bad" werent people working at wcb, the labor board, or even arca themselves? People thought I was crazy enough at the time, I wasnt going to call them out. Im appalachian as well, were the type to nearly lose a arm, and act calm about it, its really part of that stoic attitude alot of true Appalachians have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6RDX3I06LQ
Come across this guy later on as well.
https://huddle.today/2022/05/03/the-halifax-entrepreneur-erasing-your-digital-sins
No way to prove it, but I suspect he is, or is connected to the r/halifax mod hfx_redditor who has now rebranded himself as the brand new mod meetc.
This person had a huge agenda about deleting my posts, even taking over a dead subreddit called /thefaxns, to delete a rant I had done about the labor board and how they werent doing a thing to help me.
Things are so much worse than the average person realizes.
I have the same question. I'm pretty sure shills are a thing on reddit and other social media. I am not sure if this site has a big enough user base to bother with. I guess the great awakening and the larger communities might, but I'm not sure that conspiracies is a big enough community for them to bother with. With that said, I definitely see attempts to gate keep posed as a beneficial desire to not scare Normies away from this site. Maybe those gate keepers are shills, or maybe they just really hate those subjects enough to want to gate keep them.
Trust me any glowies / shills that were aware of this place when it was on reddit, and for a congress person to have mentioned it that's the case. They definitely would have sent people over here to shit it up. Not as many as say reddit/twitter type places but they would have sent some people here.