What if enormous migration into Western countries is a kind of dumbest way to mitigate or postpone inflation?
Look, let's say country have 100 citizens. Total money in circulation, say, 10000, say, "credits". Elites print 20000 credits. Of course, 10000 of that newly printed credits goes directly to elites themselves. But in process of laundering, 10000 credits finally reach citizens. Now, same 100 citizens have 20000 credits in circulation. Without anything useful produced along with appearence of that new 10000 credits, that means people will have double amount of money and everything eventually will cost twice. 100% inflation. What cost 1 credit now will cost 2 credits.
That also means that elites wealth (which is not in circulation) will also drop in half. Assuming that they have much more than that new stolen 10000 credits, it will be a disaster for them.
But imagine that elites, to preserve the value of their money, just bring 100 new citizens to the country. So every citizen now have same amount of money to spend as before the elites print that 20K credits. So the prices will not soar and there will be no visible inflation.
What if that immigration madness Western elites organized and support is just their insane way to preserve their wealth and mitigate consequences of unlimited fiat printing? Earlier, they had an option to export excess money abroad, but now it becomes more and more problematic, because World suddenly discovered that it is not necessary to trade in Western elites fiat currency, local one if perfectly fine too.
What if things THAT simple?
PS: Some additions from fellow conspiracy.winners
So, migration dilute excess money, also it lower wages and break "debt saturation". There is already at least three very good for elites reasons to force that insanity. They will kill even for one such reason, and there is already three.
Things are that simple, yes. You’ve literally hit it on the head.
EDIT: In fact, have an excerpt. Wrote it forever ago, so the numbers are a bit off.
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Besides the desired outcome of the extermination of the peoples of the Western world, the secondary reason for immigration is the average Westerner has $40-70,000 in debt. That’s a lot. These people can’t accrue any more debt because then they couldn’t even meet the interest payments. They are what economists call “debt saturated.” These people cannot drive the economy because they can barely spend any currency. What do immigrants not have? Debt. What can you do when an immigrant enters a country? You can give him loans! Loans with interest rates he’s too stupid to understand, but which he has to pay off nonetheless. For each of these immigrants who takes a loan to buy a car, a TV, a house, or a new pair of shoes, bankers can just make magic currency out of thin air (through the process of fractional reserve banking), straight into their own pockets. They can also count both the loan itself and the items the immigrant buys in the country’s GDP calculations. This allows politicians to claim the GDP is growing and use the media to celebrate their “success.”
This pyramid scheme only works as long as a steady influx of new debt-free people persists. If immigration slows or stops, the nation’s economy slides into recession. This happened in Japan. They adopted the West’s economic policies while maintaining racial purity. With their economy currently in shambles, they believe they’ve “made a mistake.” There is now discussion of bringing immigrants into Japan. Sweden, too, is importing more immigrants because they have compounding economic problems… because they imported immigrants.
There was a point somewhere before the era of mass immigration when people said, “But immigration won’t solve the fundamental issue with our banking and economic systems. We would have to completely change how our economy works,” and they were ignored, laughed at, and (if they had enough influence to actually change it) killed. The people benefitting from immigration don’t care that they will singlehandedly ruin the nations to which they’re doing this. They don’t care that they are destroying entire cultures and the achievements of a race for the last 10,000 years. They’ll destroy it all–all of civilization–for a single lifetime of personal hedonism and debauchery, funded by the suffering of billions.
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Most Americans underestimate how much illegal aliens cost the country each year. Looking at a Heritage Foundation study, you will find that the average illegal household pays about $10,334 annually in taxes. The disparity lies in the fact that the average illegal household receives around $24,721 annually in government benefits. This includes direct benefits, means-tested benefits, education benefits, population-based services, interest and other spending, and pure public goods expenditures. For comparison, the average household with college-educated heads received $24,839 in government benefits while paying $54,089 in taxes. Now, looking at these figures, we can conclude that the average household of illegals costs taxpayers $14,387 per annum. The Heritage Foundation estimates that there are 3,444,955 households of illegals in the US, containing “no more than” 12,708,875 illegal immigrants. This estimate is a hoax, however, because it is based on a census study conducted in the year 2001. It’s strange how immigrants flood into our country and hop the border in droves, yet the officially reported number of illegal immigrants has remained the same for nearly 40 years.
A more apt estimate would be the one conducted by Ann Coulter in Adios, America! She cites a study that estimates an average of 3 million aliens entering the US illegally per annum–enough to fill 22,000 Boeing 737 airliners. Coulter also cites a 2007 study by Fred Elbel that estimates there were 20 million illegal immigrants in the US back in 2005. Taking these new figures, and with the estimation of the Mexican ambassador to the US that there are over 30,000,000 illegals from his country alone, we can calculate that there are close to 60 million illegal immigrants currently in the US. These studies are just estimates, though are most likely accurate. Still, for the sake of calculation, I will use a more liberal estimate of 40 million. “Liberal” here means “a number closer to what leftist politicians say,” rather than a number closer to reality. This new number of illegals is still many times the Heritage Foundation’s estimate. For our purposes, then, there are 12,057,343 households of illegals. Each of these households costs US taxpayers $14,387 per annum. Multiply these two numbers and you get the annual cost of illegal immigration to the US: $173,468,986,547.
The US Customs and Border Protection contractor–the US Army Corps of Engineers–completed 651 miles of fencing mandated by Congress in 2005, which was a part of the DHS’ Secure Border Initiative. The price per mile (PPM) ranged from $400,000 to $15.1 million, for an average of $3.9 million PPM. Let’s set aside the discussion of the ridiculousness and obvious inflation of this price. The USA has close to 2,000 miles bordering Mexico and other areas through which illegal aliens typically trek. Assuming the best option is the option for $15 million PPM–taking the highest mile price on record–it would cost taxpayers only around $30 billion to build a comprehensive wall. The price to build a wall that would last a lifetime is less than 17% of a single year’s cost of illegal immigration. The choice is extremely clear.
The areas mentioned are not the only ones in which we would save. If we decided to deport all illegal aliens, we would save the $173 billion that is spent yearly on them. This would allow us to increase the border patrols budget by $15 billion–more than twofold–give $10 billion to defense spending, $50 billion towards repaying the national deficit (or $60 billion, if we put our collective feet down and refused to increase defense spending), while cutting taxes by 2.5% across the board. In addition, close to 29.3 million jobs would be opened. This projection comes from multiplying the number of illegal aliens by 89% (the percent over 18-years-old) and multiplying that number by 94.5% (the spurious unemployment rate reported in May 2015). With the amount of job openings caused by deportation, everyone drawing unemployment in the US would be able to find a job. There would be close to 21 million jobs left, which would allow for an extraordinary amount of economic growth and would cause a massive surge in the Labor Force Participation Rate, which is grievously lacking.
When US citizens fill those jobs, the government will also see a huge leap in tax revenue. The average US citizen pays close to 30% in taxes on their average $44,888 salary. For now, we’ll set aside discussion of the ridiculousness and obvious unconstitutionality of this percentage. An average citizen pays approximately $13,466 in taxes per annum to the government. Multiplying this by 31.3 million (the amount of new jobs that now pay income tax to the US government) gives us $421.5 billion.
Allocating these funds could give us $50 billion for infrastructure repair, $10 billion for education, $15 billion for defense spending (or, again, no more than we’re spending now), $150 billion to pay back the national debt, and would allow us to lower taxes again, this time 5% for all. Freeing up all these jobs would allow us to completely cut all unemployment benefits (this could discontinue the 6% FUTA and 5.82% SUTA taxes on businesses), while saving taxpayers $108.5 billion annually. $10 billion of these newfound funds could go to paying down the national deficit while cutting taxes yet again–another 2.5%.
In conclusion, building a border wall and deporting all illegal immigrants would allow us to spend an extra per annum: $15 billion on border patrol, $25 billion in defense spending, $50 billion for infrastructure repair, $10 billion for education, and $210 billion towards paying back the national deficit–in addition to their current budgets–while cutting taxes nearly 12% on businesses and 10% for individuals. Wow. How much more currency would you have if you kept an extra ten percent of your annual income? How much cheaper do you imagine your products could be if businesses were taxed 12 percent less annually? Are you starting to get the picture here? This is a conservative mathematical estimate of the damage done just by illegal immigration. Imagine what the “legal” ones have done.
Good read. Can't judge the figures in second part, but theory of using immigrants to break that “debt saturation” that limits bankers profits looks good, simple and valid.
Thanks for admitting that my work is mathematically and scientifically accurate.
You've never even taken a calculus class, dummy. don't talk to me about math. lol
Thanks for admitting you were wrong.
This phenomenon has been observed, dissected, discussed, disputed... all of it for decades already.
You've realised it too on your own, which is great. But more people should've come to the realisation like you a long time ago.
The few people who used to raise these concerns were called racists or greedy capitalists or whatever insult was cool at their moments in the past.
Idiots eat up the propaganda and think it's a good thing. I have people around me saying "well if someone who lives here gets out competed by an immigrant, tough luck. They were probably useless in the first place". And they do not or just cannot think of the future consequences of these policies
Unfortunately now this mass immigration economic policy is in full swing worldwide. Just secure and cover you ass(et)s
I perfectly understand that I'm definitely not the first who thought in that way on that topic. There could be even thick books or long articles about that thing with same conslusions.
The problem with such things is that they usually described like something very complex and serious. So, most people indoctrinated that such themes need some special education to understand them and years of study. In reality all that things are pretty simple, people just, IDK, think that they are too complex and don't even try to think about them.
That shit with overcomplexisation of simple things exist in nearly every area of knowledge. But really, it is unbeliveably fucking simple to explain how transistor works or why it is a bad idea to create money out of thin air. And all that simplicity is covered by a multiple layers of veil of that artifical complexity to push away anybody who will try to find out how things really works.
I'm not ready to spend significant time reading thick books to finally find out simple thing that could be described and explained by few sentencies. I did it numerous times and result was the same - why the fuck do you need a whole book to explain such simple thing? May be I'm too lazy, or may be too impatient, or may be I have more important things to do, but I'm still curious, so it is easier for me to think about and figure out same things by myself. :)
The problem is that unlike us, most people simply do not question regarding they've been told.
The Problem and the Why is simple, like you've said. The overcomplicating factor is coming from media, government, "experts" talking in circles about nothing while at the same time presenting themselves in such a way that we doubt our ability to reason and defer thinking to them
Going back to the example with the friend I mentioned who said "if someone is outcompeted by an immigrant they deserve it".... he says that believing in the image of the world shown him by all those bad actors. They've told him that immigration is the only way. They've told him that this works is honest and someone working hard honestly will be rewarded. They've told him that what is actually socialism is capitalism. Combine all those ideas together it's no wonder why he would make such a statement
It's like drinking more liquor to cure a hangover
That's too. Good point.
Looks nobody today think about long runs. And when things will be eventually fucked up, they will again came out with same stupid short term solutions.
And their dumb short term solutions become more and more short term right before our eyes.
No. It causes inflation. All those extra services, resources, stress on utilities causes inflation. Like most forms of immigration. Yes there is the financial gains of increased investment, and subscriptions, rent. But the price keeps rising like a football club its mercs, tickets, and subscriptions passed back as increased costs back to the fans.
It's a snake eating its tail. It has created increasing services, up until there's far more debt.
Bankers, hedgers, investors, land owners reap the premiums. Yes there are increasing services as a result. A single letter of the alphabet needs to be translated 50 times, into racism and diversity until it needs to show a disabled women becoming empowered and marrying a black chinese mexican otherwise it's a fine if it isn't recruited and educated into another pronoun. But ultimately all it has achieved is debt passed back as taxation and higher costs of living.
I partially agree with you, you have reasonable points. However, there are some things I disagree with.
If you have more things to pay for - that "eat" some inflation. I suspect that many modern useless services popping up here and there have the same purpose - to consume excess money in economy.
I agree with "stress on utilities" point, that's undeniable.
Many of that extra services have absolutely nothing to do with real things, so they could not, at least directly, participate in price formation for most consumables.
That services like new separate circles for money. Hipster creating landing pages for equity coaching courses then pay his earnings to fashion adviser who attend equity coaching courses. Nothing in such circle have anything to do with normal money circles.
Services. Okay like rent. Repairs. Insurance tuition. Transport. Services. Hospitality.
Remind me how many home owners there are today since mass migration?
It's another condo. So some developer, a board of investors, sells it, after building it, all loans, nobody pays cash, mortgages or rent, same as football club loans and transfers, the new build has increased the prices in the area, correct, it keeps rising in price as another person buys it, they're buying a debt, or another investment board redevelops more condos, again buying a debt and selling a debt to the next owner. Grants, schemes, but inflation. These condos last what a few decades, let's be really generous and suggest 4 decades today. Those tenements 70s torn down replaced, with new condos. Until it gets replaced with even more expensive housing built for all these immigrants and increasing population. All the extra services and subscriptions. Faster straining education, medical, transport, even food at rates today of existential demand. Most nations cannot even feed themselves anymore. What I mean is they do not grow the food necessary to feed their own populations. Instead they simply pile debt while populating like rabid animals. Welcome to the global south.
With any surge it causes the cost to rise rapidly. Inflation since to 2000 is obscene, tripling on most things except crappy tech. It has never jumped that high unless you're talking Germany post war. Instead everything is sped up today at rates of who knows anymore. These assholes haven't given one little shit. They still don't with buy new cars to fix the planet. More subscriptions and more rent pays them their bullshit, as they sit there as investors exchanging money, and landlords taking rent. But they go and cause population booms in the rest of the planet with their outsourced corps using cheap labor, while proceeding to sell agriculture, and arm them.
Inflation is like shares. Shares constantly rise the more investors buy into the brand unless they bottom out. Crash.
Yes, and every new one gets a credit card, free money stuff, housing, and new money is created.
Mass immigration is the UN's agenda of forcing everyone to "live with a little less".
Many believe that the US has had its moment in the sun, stealing resources from all the 3rd world countries and now it is there turn.
Instead of the UN wanting to bring everyone UP they think it is better to bring everyone DOWN.
Only the bureaucrats and elites will have all they need.
That's what in their publicly accessible documents. Something tell me that they would not tell the truth, or at least whole truth about their real agenda in publicly available papers.
And most things are simple. Those TPTB are not some intellectuals. Their intentions and desires are simple. Then, they will just hire special people to write sophisticated papers about why the things should be in their way without unveiling of their real, simple and disgusting intentions.
Yes!
it's known that importing migrants helps keep wages low.
it can also allow kickbacks to float certain industries like hotels.
fewer people travel (by design) ->
more hotel vacancies ->
govt starts paying hotels (kickback) to house muh poor migrants
so basically setting up trial UBI live in pod scenario.
elites only need to care about the ratio of money allocated, as long as they have 100-1000-1million X normie, they maintain control.
this assumes then that the number of goods available also increases 2x.
if not, you still have the primary problem of too many dollars chasing too few goods.
Prices will hold because each person will still have same amount of money on average. They will not be able to afford goods at higher price, so for seller it is senseless to rise prices if you will not be able to sell goods at that prices. There could be deficit, but not necessary inflation.