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News like this, shows what? (www.nbcnews.com)
posted 3 years ago by Ep0ch 3 years ago by Ep0ch +8 / -0
Ukraine and its supporters worry about losing control of the narrative
Some U.S. officials are frustrated at the pace of Ukraine’s counteroffensive, which has gained less than 100 square miles of territory.
www.nbcnews.com
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– PeneDeMichelleObama 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

This is part of the new narrative: "Ukraine is hopeless; we've tried".

You can see many examples of this, and there is discussion about this changed narrative.

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– Ep0ch [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Peace talks, but there will be, no, peace. Just talks saying nothing else. I don't think, peace, yet. Although who knows, what to think? However the narrative plays, what's its. Off/On. When needed.

I think there's fatigue. A lack of popularity and some concern. Autumn and Winter approaches. All those tanks and assault vehicles won't do much in wet ground. Unless they've kept big consignments of troops back. They will sooner be operating more defensively. Even holding back to counter from a better flank perhaps if overrunning opposing attacks. But what do I know, I don't. More is probaby based on ifs and nots. Funding, more arms and aid, like new tanks, missiles, jets, enemy, and positions. Tactically Ukraine haven't punched through.

Suddenly ah but peace while gearing and inciting.

No, it's far too soon for that. It's still committed. Significantly there are sighs. Like campaigning will obviously use it when running. Especially when it hasn't bought much. But who knows???

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– PeneDeMichelleObama 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Sorry, but you really have not been paying attention:

. Tactically Ukraine haven't punched through.

This is the current situation. While cycling new recruits through the front line, not using any conscripts, and largely relying on a they-did-well but rag-tag private army, this is how things currently are. Attacks this week in * Western* Ukraine, most of the major electricity systems destroyed (Ukraine has (I mean, 'had') an electric rail system - now, moving tanks 1000km to the front lines is effectively impossible. Hence the tiny new tank deployments - 300 tanks are being lost each month), large concentrations of troops near Odessa. Open land to the east of Kiev, and see here https://liveuamap.com/ for the large Russian buildup behind the borders to the north of Kiev. Russian doesn't even want Ukraine.

Anyway, this is the current situation. Note the troops to the north of Kiev. Just waiting for the Ukrainian collapse:

https://s2.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/12august2023_Ukraine_map.jpg

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– Ep0ch [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Why are you going over old posts. Why are you replying to posts 2 weeks old.

You're a nigger faggot stalker. Look at that. How did you find the topic, and why?

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– PeneDeMichelleObama 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I am definately a nigger faggot stalker. Also, my tone was off: why was I so negative and aggressive? You were just making conversation.

My bad.

I only browse these sites (voat, poal, *.win) one day a week . . . so 7 days later .

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