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– Vlad_The_Impaler 2 points 2 years ago +3 / -1

When did this happen? Where? By who?

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– HonestTruth 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Pretty sure this is the Khmelnitsky activity a variety of Russian impacts on some production enterprises as well as storage and oil.

Just more demilitarization for ukrops/nato

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– Primate98 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

Apparently this is shadowbanned on r/conspiracy.

I opened the browser to new posts but didn't look at it. Just now, a couple of hours later, when I clicked on the tab I reflexively hit refresh, but as the page was loading I happened to see a post at the top with the same thumbnail titled, "Why is there not a single post about this explosion?"

It has now been vaporized. There's only one post on Reddit with "Khmelnytskyi:" in the title, and it's from several months ago.

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– Primate98 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I think that if a subject get shadowbanned on social media, we can safely conclude that what is reported through mainstream outlets is something other than the full truth. Not much point otherwise.

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– Primate98 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

These are more nukes they keep secret by not telling us they're nukes, cemented by near universal ignorance:

Khmelnytskyi: Two NATO Tactical Nukes in Western Ukraine Storage Hit by Cheap ‘Iranian’ Drone…Radiation Alert Over Europe (The Intel Drop 5/13/2023)

In the video available in the link, you can get a rough size comparison to the buildings in the foreground and see that both of these detonations are titanic. They are much larger than Pavlohrad, and I would guesstimate the yield at 10kt.

Although these installations may have been ammo depots, these are not the "cooking off" of ammo depots which happen munition by munition, just like a pack of firecrackers tossed in a campfire.

Although these installations may have been fuel depots, these are not the burning of fuel depots, which are simply large, smoky fires. If you toss a road flare in a pool of gasoline, it doesn't explode since it is not under compression, it just burns furiously. After it settles down a bit, there's not actually much of a fire at the site since all the flammable material has been vaporized or blown clear.

A key feature of the aftermath is the glowing column. This is not made up of burning mortar shells launched on ballistic trajectories. Rather, it clearly comes down out of the fireball. This is vaporized material, heated to incandescence and carried aloft by the fierce updrafts. It remains incandescent even as it falls back out of the sky.

An earlier article on the same site seemed to blame the Pavlohrad nuke on a Ukrainian black market nuke stored there accidentally detonated by the explosion of a Russian cruise missile. This strike, though, going two for two, to my way of thinking casts tremendous doubt on that.

Geopolitically, I would say that Russia knows the end is near and wants it over with sooner rather than later. They lost four aircraft today, and the terrorism is getting more blatant. On the flip side, everyone is beginning to realize the AFU spring counteroffensive is having trouble getting off the ground because it does not exist. Western wunderwaffen seem to be having little to no effect.

So can Russia increase resistance among participating NATO officers when their colleagues just down the road from Lvov are vaporized and reported as "training accidents"? I would say probably yes.

And if anyone is wondering why NATO doesn't just call it out for what it is, well, then what would they do? Declare war? Already done. That would just legitimize strikes on NATO assets wherever they are, without the inconvenience of having to track them until they arrive in Ukraine.

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– Ep0ch -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

They're not tactical nukes. That's a lot of munitions and fuel. Like the train depot prior. These are big storages, or factories, or depots.

But there's no fallout there. We he'd hear no end of it if there was. It would be plastered on the news everywhere. Instead no news coverage on it suggests? It was that kind of storage factory facility for arms and fuel.

That kind of explosion happens on gas/fertiliser facilities. We've seen similar in let's suggest Texas. I suspect it was probably more war related than civilian utility.

Hits like these probably propell defenders. They'll have to prove they're unaffected.

Where was this site, oblast, region?

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– Primate98 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

We he'd hear no end of it if there was.

Normie-tier thinking. Don't you seek to rise above? Disappointing if not, but it's up to each of us to decide what we can handle.

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– Ep0ch -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

No, as I said the milking factory in Texas this year, had a shroom cloud. Or the fertiliser plant etc.

What you saw in that explosion was it igniting, the red blast, it was an acceleration caused by munitions or often fuel. Causing increased incineration. The glowing red. On a tactical nuke there'd be the shock wave. The blast wave spreading out and possibly a white flash, or the dust pushing out. Not just up.

The shroom plume happens on most blasts/explosions and there where the impact has hit an accelerator of something ignitable.

Munitions tend to spark, like fireworks, you'd hear a series of bangs, but it depends on the containment and the blast.

The reason I asked for location, to do a search, but these are harder with warfare operations hiding Intel. But it's possible it was a fuel depot, factory, and storage.

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– Primate98 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

You had two chances at it now: the name of the town where it took place was the very first word in the link provided. Given that, I'm not sure what value anyone would ascribe to the acuity of any analysis you will provide, but if I were you, I'd be embarrassed and just let it drop.

But then again, not everyone is me, right?

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– Ep0ch -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

It checks out as possibly being an oil facility. It is also as a town with rail and transport links to kiev and odessa from lviv, it also has an airport, and as an oblast had been relatively away from combat. It also had a few factories, depots. These might have been converted into warfare.

Definitely in use for operations.

As far as a tactical nuke. No. I doubt it. The blast didn't spread out.

Replying previously didn't read the link, missed it. Rather debated Ukraine with nukes or nukes deployed.

Easy searching stuff. I am speculating slightly. But it's not hard to summarise.

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– Ep0ch -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

I can link the Russians suggesting it was fuel and lubricant facilities. Also munitions and rockets storage.

There were separate attacks on the area at least two or more hits.

Nukes, all you got is the shroom plume. Happens in most significant detonations. But there was no larger blastwaves out.

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– Vlad_The_Impaler -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

Nuclear bombs are either extremely exaggerated or else they aren't real.

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– Primate98 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

It seems like one would begin a disciplined study by making the distinction between "exist" and "not exist".

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