1. USSR did they own hoaxes. Both countries have shit on each other. If one spills the other, it's tit-for-tat and both lose face. Read about Yuri Gagarin and failed US cosmonaut missions and how much they lied about USSR achievements.

2. There's more to moon and going to outer space than is told. This relates to other species, our limited knowledge/technology, humans not being at the top of the food/IQ/tech chain and the fact that how difficult it is to tell what planet earth is, without losing control

3. Momentum. Once you get a lie going, it becomes part of organizations, culture and systems. It starts having it's own lies. At some point most newcomers to the system don't even know they are still propagating a lie (because they don't stop to think critically and weight the evidence from a clean slate).

4. Information asymmetry (I know, you don't) is the key to power, even more so than money (which can be made through information asymmetry. US knows some, USSR knows others. Both share some, but keep other bits hidden. Both want to keep this info from their own population. If they spill USSR data, USSR spills their data and they lose the info asymmetry over their own population.

5. Whatever USA/USSR know, is not under control and they want both to keep things under wrap, until they can control it more or at least appear to have the illusion that they control it (illusion of control is required for the position of leadership : you lose control, you are not leader material anymore).

Many many potential reasons. I just laid out some of the most obvious.

One interesting book about this is "Gagarin: A Cosmic Lie" ("Gagarin - kozmikus hazugsig," Budapest, 1990) by the Hungarian journalist Istvin Nemere. Not one word about the contradictions surrounding Gagarin's "journey into space" have been published in Sweden, where the Soviet Union is still regarded with a great deal of respect. Such a revelation would be far too embarrassing.

Until 1961, the United States had managed to send up 42 satellites, the Soviet Union only 12. The United States also informed the world that Alan Shepard would make a space journey in the spacecraft Freedom 7 on 5 May, 1961.

The Soviet Union was forced to do something to save face. For this reason a Soviet cosmonaut, Vladimir Ilyushin, was sent up into space on 7 April, 1961. The Americans intercepted several radio communications between him and the space centre in the Soviet Union. Ilyushin's landing failed and he was seriously injured. He could not be shown to the public. It was claimed that he had been injured in a car accident. He was sent to China to receive better medical treatment.

The Russian TV documentary "Cosmonaut Cover-Up" (2001) also claims that on 7 April, 1961, Vladimir Ilyushin left for space, got into trouble during the first orbit, and crash-landed in China during the third orbit. Ilyushin was badly injured. He was returned to the Soviet Union a year later. Ilyushin was killed in an engineered car accident in 1961.

The Soviet Union did not have a spare capsule at that time and in Moscow it was decided to orchestrate a huge bluff, a cosmic lie. Radio Moscow claimed that a Soviet cosmonaut, Yuri Gagarin, had been sent up into space on the morning of 12 April, 1961 with the space-rocket Mostok. According to the official announcement, he had already landed and was in fine health. The whole world believed this except for the Western intelligence services. They had not managed to register any radio communication between Gagarin and the space centre.

This hoax was sloppily orchestrated. Polish newspapers announced already on the morning of 12 April that a Soviet cosmonaut had been in space. Newspapers in other countries did not report Gagarin's flight until 13 April.

In a book written for the West, Soviet propagandists claimed that simple peasants recognized Yuri Gagarin soon after he landed in a field and enthusiastically shouted: "Gagarin, Gagarin!" But nothing about his "space journey" had been reported at that time, no pictures of him had been published and his name had not been mentioned. The message from radio and TV was sent out 35 minutes after the alleged journey. Were the peasants psychic?

The newspaper Sovetskaya Rossiya claimed that Gagarin was wearing a blue flightsuit when he landed. In his memoirs, Gagarin himself claimed he was dressed in an orange flightsuit. At his press conference, Gagarin read from notes when he "related" his journey.

During the press conference, he made several crucial mistakes. Gagarin stated that weightlessness was no problem. Everything seemed just normal. We now know that this is not the case. The cosmonaut German Titov, for example, had difficulties with his balance and had heart problems. American astronauts experienced similar symptoms. Gagarin then made his most serious mistake, despite the fact that he was constantly assisted by experts, who often spoke about discoveries in space. He said: "Then I saw South America".

This is impossible. At that time it was night in South America, which meant that it could not be seen at all. According to the official reports, Gagarin began his "space journey" at 9:07 Moscow time. He was supposed to have flown over South America at 9:22 Moscow time. In Chile, the time would have been 2:22, in Brazil 3:22. He could never have reached South America in 15 minutes. For other cosmonauts it took 45 minutes.

Foreign journalists wondered: "When will the photographs that Gagarin took in space be published?" Gagarin was silent, thought for a moment and answered: "I didn't have a camera with me!" Even unmanned Soviet space probes had photographic equipment on board. It would have been an important propaganda triumph to publish Gagarin's pictures from space. The Soviet Union would never have missed an opportunity like that.

Shepard's pictures were cabled out immediately. Parts of his flight were also shown on TV. At the press conference, it was never explained whether Gagarin landed in his capsule or was ejected. If he had used the catapult seat, he would have become several centimetres shorter. This could easily have been ascertained. All pilots who have catapulted have become somewhat shorter as a result of spinal deformation.

When Gagarin wanted to travel in space for real in 1968, he was disposed of, according to Istvin Nemere. His plane exploded on 27 March the same year. The official report concerning this event contained many contradictions. The report was classified during the communist period. It claimed that there was not much left of Gagarin's body after the crash. In that case, how did his flightsuit come to land in the top of a tree?

There are far too many questions surrounding Gagarin's spaceflight in April 1961. A British team of researchers who questions the propaganda surrounding manned journeys to the moon also confirms this information. When will the truth be admitted officially?

On 12 April 2001, the Russian senior engineer Mikhail Rudenko, at the Experimental Design Office 456, in Khimki in the Moscow region, admitted in Pravda that three cosmonauts had died in space before Gagarin was sent up, namely Alexei Ledovskikh (1957), Serenti Zhaborin (February 1958), and Andrei Mitkov (flight attempt January 1959).

The Russian journalist and cosmonaut candidate (June 1965) Yaroslav Golovanov (1932-2003) wrote in his book "Cosmonaut One" that on 10 November 1960, another cosmonaut, Byelokonyev, also died on board a space-ship in orbit. Several sources reveal that 7-11 cosmonauts have died in orbit before Gagarin. The CIA knew about the Gagarin bluff but said nothing. Instead they have come up with more and more ridiculous lies themselves. (Juri Lina, Architects of Deception. The Concealed History of Freemasonry. Referent Publishing Stockholm, 2004. p. 26-29).

Maybe, USSR was doing their own version of "fund a new department forever" at the same time?

It's a good point op. Another one is why all nations on the planet including Russia abide by the no fly zone over the south pole.

at this stage of the game, if you dont realise that all governmental bodies work in lockstep I cant help you

If you believe in a singular world government, then the answer is pretty obvious.

I suppose many normies fall for the us vs them of the cold war and never consider the fact that there are always hidden agreements and facades. Things are not what they seem to be.

It is for this very reason that big hoaxes like the moon landing and September 11th are still important to educate about. It necessarily will change your entire world view.

You clearly haven't watched enough.

USSR space program was actively working with NASA.

They faked even more than NASA(hello, rice cooker on moon) ?

Unmanned landings were no problem, its the manned landings where the story breaks down. Nobody actually observed actual people landing on the moon.

Mandatory link vomit

Compilation of NASA inconsistent narrative http://www.americanmoon.org/NASA/index.htm

American moon documentary is a good starting point, might even answer every question you have https://www.bitchute.com/video/eZramDBFkXRU/

Nasa lost technology to go back to the moon, if you know anything about technology it doesn't even make a lick of sense, we have 1000 times more technology than in late 60s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl1H1WxWTuc&ab_channel=JimLord

About those Van Allen belts https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=B3qClCOQyQk&ab_channel=WelcometoReality

NASA erased every evidence of humanities most important and greatest achievements of all time https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nasa-tapes-idUSTRE56F5MK20090716

More arguments https://www.bitchute.com/video/qMz3ncef3Jj9/

Israeli invent radiation vest we didn't need in 60s to go to moon https://christiansfortruth.com/israelis-invent-radiation-vest-nasa-didnt-need-to-get-to-moon-in-1969-but-need-now-to-get-back-to-moon/

USSR rice cooker on moon https://www.bitchute.com/video/sQaSXblaHsN7/

NASA is faking everything today as well

https://newtube.app/phiroc/yV4Uo4g

https://newtube.app/user/WINE/4qS7KWh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMvT58DinAI&ab_channel=THEPOWERISINYOU2

Remember Apollo 13 ? Where the rocket had explosion and then astronauts got fucked so they decided to orbit around the moon and slingshot back to earth with barely any energy left to do so, when they eyeballed the earth and magically with everything happening got back to it ? From all the fake shit this is the fakest shit that ever existed.

Introduction to what they claim happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OLtteIwwNs&ab_channel=ColdFusion

discussion about it

https://newtube.app/user/IM_Philinblank/uoq0gvx

https://www.bitchute.com/video/vpfs3SJ9MoTB/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/HSIdTl47Ez94/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/bnzZqI9T2HvO/

Even fucking satellites are hanging there on balloons

https://newtube.app/user/Sarrah/EzJVpxN

but it seems more likely that they ... observed us land on the moon before calling us to congratulate us on landing on the moon.

Even today we can’t observe the apollo landing sites. It wasn’t magically easier back in the 60’s. Needle in a haystack doesn’t begin to characterize the impossibility of what you are describing.

The other answers here are great, and i don’t have much to add. The cold war was a psyop, and the “space age” is lsd and television fueled nonsense.

That's the thing with conspiracies like this one. They require thousands of people to coordinate the lie and keep it a secret for decades.

In my experience, 2 people can't keep a secret let alone thousands.