On Ukraine, there was two Orthodox Churches - Kiev patriarchate Orthodox Church (~25% of population) and Moscow patriarchate Orthodox Church (another ~25% of population).
Both was Eastern Orthodox Churches, so they use Julian calendar for all holidays, prayers in ancient Russian, do not accept any ecumenism and consider Vatican as heretics. There was political tensions between Kiev and Moscow patriarchates of Ukraininan Orthodox Church but theologically they was the same.
Kiev patriarchate Orthodox Church was not officially recognized among Orthodox Churches, but had some relations with few recognized Orthodox Churches of small countries like Makedonia. It was created somwhere in 1992 as a counterweight to Moscow patriarchate Orthodox Church from part of Kiev metropole of Moscow patriarchate Orthodox Church, mostly for political reasons.
Half of Ukraine was Orthodox, Kiev or Moscow patriarchate. Only ~15% of Ukrainian citizens was of Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church, other Christian Churches was represented poorly (less than 5%).
And now, the most interesting thing - Kiev patriarchate was shut down by Ukrainian government headed by Zelensky at December 13 2019. Long before than shit hit fan.
So, even if quote is fake, Ukrainian government definitely getting rid of Orthodox Church. Officially, today, only Christian churches connected with Vatican one way of another could legally exist.
Most people don't give a fuck about that governement bans, really, in theological sense. AFAIK, church services is still going, there exists failover protocol in Orthodox Christianity for the cases when priest was detained or whatever - "служба мирским чином" (secular divine service mode, something like that). Police are afraid to confront with parisioners for now. Will see what will happen at Orthodox Christmas (Jan 7).
Well, it could be an abstraction of what has been said, or a collection. In any case it is pretty much on the money given the actions and statements over this past year.
It would just be ignorant to proclaim this is not something that sad sack is likely to say, for you to 'feel' otherwise is just an indication of how disconnected you are from the various statements he has published in the past few years alone.
Regarding the activity against the christian church in ukraine, it has been pretty intolerant.
From some simple research, it shows that this wording was pushed by one of his cabinet in some official capacity, so it is not very far off to say the words are his.
I am not interested in validating your feelings on my post here, the guy is a scumbag who has declared war on what he does not align to, he is a self declared jew.
This is the same scenario unfolding from over 100 years ago, the jews want war.
Saying a screenshot isn't a source does not mean Zelinsky is a good guy. But there is plenty of disinfo based on sensationalist headlines like this. The fact you didn't bother to link the source shows you don't think reading past the headline is important.
I posted a link on a conspiracy forum to an image that someone else created.
That is the reality we are dealing with here, where you take it from there is on you.
You requested the source, I provided it. You want to do more research to determine the accuracy or not, it is on you, not me.
I have already been privy to much of the inept statements from that regime regarding many things in the human sphere, so far each and everything this regime encounters that is not supportive of their narrative gets the same treatment.
Given the actions against the church and its leaders and followers since long before this military conquest began I feel it is not worth my time to attempt to validate what is clearly a statement of fact, given the actions regardless of whether that exact wording was produced by him, is irrelevant.
For you to produce such a strawman about this content is indicative of something about you, not the post nor the information. So understand that.
There has literally been a religious war ongoing for thousands of years and you seem to be completely unaware of where we are in it.
Hitler is a Zionist mole designed to sabotage Germany war efforts, justify the UN, Modern Israel and more thought crimes unseen since the days of Christianity.
Can you prove that? Do you have evidence to prove it?
It appears to me as something very likely to be said by that khazarian. You are out of touch with reality, given your history and posting style, you are a complete waste of skin shill, so you are worthless.
Just wrote this to say that, you are fucking worthless sack of shit, your statements are irrelevant.
lol, the standard retort from a leftist retard such as yourself.
You should ask yourself why you bother to respond to someone such as myself, you are so far below me in capability and content. You really have such a shitty account there full of stupid nonsense, you are absolutely a piece of shit waste of skin.
lol, you know I know exactly what a khazarian is, lol. Eat shit lefty.
I do not buy into anything, Leftism is a mental disorder, a disease.
I am sure you and your entire group of cohorts are stunning examples, given your rhetoric and your useless tripe you continue to write, I think it is a given.
You have no idea what a khazarian is, yet you want to pretend I do not, you should do some research kid, there is plenty on the topic.
You have no idea what is going on anywhere, you are too busy reading garbage from your mainstream media. This much is clear given the consistent standpoint you represent, you are always wrong and always coming off half cocked into matters you know nothing about.
You can take your bullshit and fuck off, it really has no value when writing these messages to me, you are incapable of standing next to me in communication, only capable of writing half wit leftist responses.
lol, you are like a small wee child who has not yet opened their eyes, clear in the words you use.
'boomer' indeed. Learn your audience clown, you are using inapplicable words you picked up from the internet and are applying them incorrectly. And here you are here attempting to proclaim that I am using a popular word incorrectly, it is really actually funny how fucking dimwitted you are kid.
Boomers are not really capable on the computers, they are how old kid? Maybe if you had a fucking clue about anything, you would be able to answer that question.
I tire of your useless posts, you are really so small brained that it is odd you feel capable of opening communication to me at all.
Do you have anything useful to say? or just incoherent rants from the leftist weak small mind you possess?
JFYI. For those who interested,
On Ukraine, there was two Orthodox Churches - Kiev patriarchate Orthodox Church (~25% of population) and Moscow patriarchate Orthodox Church (another ~25% of population).
Both was Eastern Orthodox Churches, so they use Julian calendar for all holidays, prayers in ancient Russian, do not accept any ecumenism and consider Vatican as heretics. There was political tensions between Kiev and Moscow patriarchates of Ukraininan Orthodox Church but theologically they was the same.
Kiev patriarchate Orthodox Church was not officially recognized among Orthodox Churches, but had some relations with few recognized Orthodox Churches of small countries like Makedonia. It was created somwhere in 1992 as a counterweight to Moscow patriarchate Orthodox Church from part of Kiev metropole of Moscow patriarchate Orthodox Church, mostly for political reasons.
Half of Ukraine was Orthodox, Kiev or Moscow patriarchate. Only ~15% of Ukrainian citizens was of Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church, other Christian Churches was represented poorly (less than 5%).
And now, the most interesting thing - Kiev patriarchate was shut down by Ukrainian government headed by Zelensky at December 13 2019. Long before than shit hit fan.
So, even if quote is fake, Ukrainian government definitely getting rid of Orthodox Church. Officially, today, only Christian churches connected with Vatican one way of another could legally exist.
Most people don't give a fuck about that governement bans, really, in theological sense. AFAIK, church services is still going, there exists failover protocol in Orthodox Christianity for the cases when priest was detained or whatever - "служба мирским чином" (secular divine service mode, something like that). Police are afraid to confront with parisioners for now. Will see what will happen at Orthodox Christmas (Jan 7).
I doubt that is a real quote.
But… but… it says it right there, it’s got a picture of him and everything. Pretty sure that means it’s probably true
Well, it could be an abstraction of what has been said, or a collection. In any case it is pretty much on the money given the actions and statements over this past year.
Could be anything. But you didn't provide the source material for us to read further or verify.
... This is the source, feel free to dig further for more information given the post I provided.
That isn't a source and I'm not going to waste my time.
pfft, your own issue.
It would just be ignorant to proclaim this is not something that sad sack is likely to say, for you to 'feel' otherwise is just an indication of how disconnected you are from the various statements he has published in the past few years alone.
Regarding the activity against the christian church in ukraine, it has been pretty intolerant.
From some simple research, it shows that this wording was pushed by one of his cabinet in some official capacity, so it is not very far off to say the words are his.
I am not interested in validating your feelings on my post here, the guy is a scumbag who has declared war on what he does not align to, he is a self declared jew.
This is the same scenario unfolding from over 100 years ago, the jews want war.
Saying a screenshot isn't a source does not mean Zelinsky is a good guy. But there is plenty of disinfo based on sensationalist headlines like this. The fact you didn't bother to link the source shows you don't think reading past the headline is important.
sigh
I posted a link on a conspiracy forum to an image that someone else created.
That is the reality we are dealing with here, where you take it from there is on you.
You requested the source, I provided it. You want to do more research to determine the accuracy or not, it is on you, not me.
I have already been privy to much of the inept statements from that regime regarding many things in the human sphere, so far each and everything this regime encounters that is not supportive of their narrative gets the same treatment.
Given the actions against the church and its leaders and followers since long before this military conquest began I feel it is not worth my time to attempt to validate what is clearly a statement of fact, given the actions regardless of whether that exact wording was produced by him, is irrelevant.
For you to produce such a strawman about this content is indicative of something about you, not the post nor the information. So understand that.
There has literally been a religious war ongoing for thousands of years and you seem to be completely unaware of where we are in it.
It literally says "quoted".
Are you fucking illiterate?
It’s almost as if Ukraine is full of Nazis
Hitler is a Zionist mole designed to sabotage Germany war efforts, justify the UN, Modern Israel and more thought crimes unseen since the days of Christianity.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180109191019/https://endofwesternciv.blogspot.com/2014/03/hitler-agent-who-betrayed-and-destroyed.html
You should be reading this blog someday. It's pre-2020 but there's lots of stuff that are applicable even now.
Yes Nazis were always Jewish.
The Khazar Jews killed the Hebrew Jews to hijack the Jewish title.
They want 2 races. Mixed people and Jews. Then they want Jews to secretly enslave the mixed races without them knowing.
...And that is bad?
I think we're close to WW3 anyways.
Fake quote and everyone who upvotes this is a fucking idiot.
Fake quote eh?
Can you prove that? Do you have evidence to prove it?
It appears to me as something very likely to be said by that khazarian. You are out of touch with reality, given your history and posting style, you are a complete waste of skin shill, so you are worthless.
Just wrote this to say that, you are fucking worthless sack of shit, your statements are irrelevant.
You need to prove that the quote is genuine, retard. You posted it.
lol, the standard retort from a leftist retard such as yourself.
You should ask yourself why you bother to respond to someone such as myself, you are so far below me in capability and content. You really have such a shitty account there full of stupid nonsense, you are absolutely a piece of shit waste of skin.
lol, you know I know exactly what a khazarian is, lol. Eat shit lefty.
More hapless ignorant bits, useless as usual.
I do not buy into anything, Leftism is a mental disorder, a disease.
I am sure you and your entire group of cohorts are stunning examples, given your rhetoric and your useless tripe you continue to write, I think it is a given.
You have no idea what a khazarian is, yet you want to pretend I do not, you should do some research kid, there is plenty on the topic.
You have no idea what is going on anywhere, you are too busy reading garbage from your mainstream media. This much is clear given the consistent standpoint you represent, you are always wrong and always coming off half cocked into matters you know nothing about.
You can take your bullshit and fuck off, it really has no value when writing these messages to me, you are incapable of standing next to me in communication, only capable of writing half wit leftist responses.
lol, you are like a small wee child who has not yet opened their eyes, clear in the words you use.
'boomer' indeed. Learn your audience clown, you are using inapplicable words you picked up from the internet and are applying them incorrectly. And here you are here attempting to proclaim that I am using a popular word incorrectly, it is really actually funny how fucking dimwitted you are kid.
Boomers are not really capable on the computers, they are how old kid? Maybe if you had a fucking clue about anything, you would be able to answer that question.
I tire of your useless posts, you are really so small brained that it is odd you feel capable of opening communication to me at all.
Do you have anything useful to say? or just incoherent rants from the leftist weak small mind you possess?
HonestTruth the sussy boy
lol, you are such a piece of shit on this forum, how you even have the courage to return and reveal your idiocy again is surely a feat in itself.
I figure you must be a stupid leftist, all you leftists are pretty devoid of a brain aren't you?
This is a rhetorical statement, your response will only cement the claim above.
He's a shill, and definitely a jew.
Spoken like a drunk boomerfed