TL:DR: I’m on the fence when it comes to Dr. Peterson and would like to hear your opinions on him and your reasonings for holding them.
I began to take an interest in Jordan Peterson following his now infamous college speech video when he talks about freedom of speech and bill C16.
Watching the majority of his lectures it seemed that the man spoke a great deal of sense concerning morality, personal responsibility, archetypal characters, meaning and the dangers and pressing threats of totalitarianism. I bought 12 Rules For Life and continued to follow his path (interviews, talks, channel etc) closely up until his disappearance. I wouldn’t have called myself partisan, but the message from Dr. Peterson seemed generally worth listening to.
With that being said I cannot help but notice a shift since he returned from his absence a while ago. Something definitely feels, and continues to feel different about the mans' presentation, demeanor and choise of topic of discussio - however I cannot quite put my finger on what it is and why I feel it. More recent videos and interviews aren't the "same" and I couldn’t remove the feeling that his second book 12 More Rules was only an effort to capitalise on the success of his previous publication rather than a means of trying to help people, so I abstained from buying it.
Many videos featuring Dr. Peterson now appear to be a part of an increasingly common trend on social media of content creators highlighting how bad things are, and how they are going to get much much worse. The irony of this of course being that these people are usually incredibly financially secure and will likely be unaffected by the hardships that will cripple the layman who they preach to. Regardless of the intent behind it, such content often makes people feel more isolated, scared and hopeless. Is this deliberate? I don't know, it may be a consequence of being increasingly well known and an attempt to keep views coming in (as people love doom scrolling). It seems like he has taken a leaf out of the Russel Brand "Grift-n-Go" playbook. Regardless, it is a stark contrast to Dr. Peterson's older content where advice was presented on how to counter pressing issues and build oneself up.
Plus, the fact that he has gone from being cancelled and banned to blue checkmark, verified and recommended on multiple social media sights is also somewhat of a red flag to me. It seems to be a paradigm shift in the powers’ that be’s approach toward him.
Has he been bought? Threatened? Is this subversion? OR has the current state of the world made me look too deeply to find issues that don’t exist? I don’t know.
TLDR (again): I’m not really sure where I stand when it comes to Dr.Peterson, a great deal of what he says still resonates strongly with me, but there is an ever growing feeling of distrust and doubt in my mind as to his motive and intent. I would be interested to hear your thoughts.
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Eh....i don't think he's aligned with Granny Creeper here, more documenting the meeting. He doesn't share too many views with Soros and thsts a fact. I think Jordan Peterson is on the level, however i could be wrong as they seem to be pushing the fuck out of him on Tiktok
I know almost jack about Jordan Peterson (except I know he tries to be as long-winded as possible from the little I've seen), but why would he be meeting with Netanyahu?
My personal thought is that someone "on the level" wouldn't actually shake hands with Netanyahu.
Who WOULDN'T try to slip a Mallrats style StinkPalm on ol' Bibi?
One comment on a conspiracy site is "bending over backwards?" Ok
You are free to follow whoever you want. Many people are just waiting on someone else to save them, I guess that's why we have politics.
You should research the history of MK Ultra and psychological warfare in Canada. Bet that will open your eyes for the pawns they produce there.
He’s a jewish gatekeeper and completely worthless. He collects communist memorabilia and his daughter has an onlyfans. Ignore him.
His daughter has been working hard to destroy the validity of his teachings for the past few years. The Rollo vs Peterson saga was hilarious.
You misspelled his name, he is called: Juden Peterstein.
When asked about the jews he said they were super smart and that's why they get ahead in life, and when pressed about it and asked about Solzhenitsyn's book 200 years together he said I cannot answer that!
Anyone who is that famous should be instantly suspect.
Only video you need to see about Peterstein is this one: https://www.bitchute.com/video/OSWWZ8ntpuEM/
Is that the one where he cries on stage in Israel?
The video I linked is one created by someone who is up to Jordan Peterson games in which he talks why Peterson is a crook (you can search for "Jordan Peterson Alex on Life" in Bitchute to find it if you don't want to click the link).
What exposed Peterson the most was when he was asked by an audience member about 200 years together by Solzhenitsyn, in which Peterstein replies that he "cannot do it!".
Note: I am not a hater. In the beginning I listened to his work and shared with friends.
--‐-------- Another point to consider is his background.
I can confirm from personal experiences that even grade school and high school trachers can be communists. More than you think. They seem normal, super nice and then after knowing them you find out...
I can also confirm that almost all university professors are somewhere on the communist - champagne socialist spectrum.
As in, they have discreet meetings where they discuss things and network. They are literally the nicest people I have ever met. I would never have thought they were socialists with discreet meetings spreading around. They seem smart and normal and kind. Their discreet meetings are spreading. They even have presentations on stuff like furries and feel really bad and empathic towards them. Which I guess is ok on an individual level , not sure about societal.
Like I said these people are very kind and easy to be around. They are people you want as friends. Very helpful to each other. Unlike the conservatives and trads lol. Conservatives are individualistic, out for themselves and don't have the same group support and kindness. They don't have regular meetings with guest speakers, educating themselves amd networking.
Now, Peterson worked at Harvard or Yale i forget. One of those. He is connected with McMaster which did the the mkuktra experiments to unwitting patients. They destroyed lives. This is confirmed because of lawsuits. Not a conspiracy. So that is interesting, he also worked at U of Toronto. They are crazy liberal. How could he have taught there long? Unless....
If you go to professors homes, you might/ likely be greated with walls plastered with Mao, Castro etc. These are people that seem totally normal on the outside.
Coincidentally, Peterson has the same aesthetic in his home. With a giant print of Stalin (ok it might have been Mao, I could be mixing up professors interior commie pics lol).
These pictures are always huge!
Take a look at the symbolism in his home. Where he relaxes. Why would he really have that there? He gave a lame excuse.
I saw a very similar vibe to other professors.
So, I don't know when he changed or exactly why. But his house made me question him even more.
I really don't understand how he could have stayed teaching at such liberal places. For a variety of reasons.
Now, you have to remember, when he first gained fame and was crying on camera, he was getting $100,000 + per month just on patron. Not including book sales, speakering fees, donations, etc. And he is getting invites from big wigs
I think at first he was legit but once he saw the amount of money rolling in.... money corrupts. Or maybe his daughter saw dollar signs.
And then they were pushing the carnivore diet.. which is ok.... his daughter basically runs his business, he has even said. So she is a big factor in this and influence on him.
I don't know if his sudden conversion to God is legit. It might be some audience marketing thing.
But I don't have anything against him and his early work was good normie level++ content. He even, I think, got young men motivated (in a cult like way lol).
He lost my trust when he did the fluff shows instead of the worldwide serious liberty and rule of law issues.
Something about his illness in Russia was weird. I know people who were reprogrammed there.
And of course he worked with/networked with UN people. He developed some stuff for them. Maybe it was all on the level. But maybe people made friends with him and kept in touch.
I dunno, sometimes I wonder if his daughter is his mkultra'd handler. Probably not. But she does control his business and influence his life/diet. And the wife..... hmmm.
I don't think you have to agree with someone on all the issues. There's value in having someone like Dr. Peterson on the public stage adding to the public discourse because he talks a lot of sense. Too many people on these forums categorize people as all good or all bad... (if you're for this one thing I disagree with, you're a shill!)
Take the good and leave the bad. No reason to "cancel" people because you don't agree with them 100%.
A picture paints a thousand words.
Also, his ‘daughter’ is clearly a dude. Plus, he thinks Jewish people are just smarter than anyone else (perhaps he’s right, IQ wise) and that ‘anti Semitism’ is brought about by jealousy as opposed to an honest assessment of, and aversion to, their influence and professed desire amongst many to off the white race.
Plus, he cries too much. Plus, I don’t really believe his Christian conversion. Plus, he wouldn’t answer an honest question about the holodomor and it’s likelihood of being repeated.
I used to respect Peterson. I even read his book "12 rules for life". It's a good book. Nevertheless, he has either sold out or always held retarded sympathies for Israel.
He is NOT a Christian; when pressed for confirmation, he always avoided answering by stating something to the effect of "how can one profess to be a Christian when the standards for being one are clearly impossibly high?" That indicates that either (1) he didn't actually read through the new testament or (2) he more than likely disregards the importance of Christ's sacrifice to the entirety of the faith. The latter is far more likely, particularly given that his wife is Jewish has had a life of influence over his thinking.
Also of note: his most vicious attacks either on the internet or in real life are reserved for the folks who merely "notice" the things that Jews regularly get away with, not even folks who rightly call them out, but the normal folks who just so happen to notice. He didn't even attack the COVID lockdowns with as much vitriol and those seemed to piss him off.
At this point, he should not be trusted.
Jordan Peterson Dismantled
That and more has been censored at TheDonald, so I'll be more active at c/TheDonaldFreeSpeech now.
Well, I think he was in genuine emotional destress at first while getting attacked for his stance. I felt for him. He has struggled with mental health and that really brought about crisis.
I think his brain is somewhat disordered. He has depression etc. I don't think he is a genius but he is very good at persuasion and influence and performance.
Unlike most people, he actually studied the works of geniuses for years until he was able to understand them at a basic level. So he translated that into something the dumbed down population can understance. The dumbed populations sees him as a genius.
I think he did help bring attention to the Bible and Jung and trad values and self improvement. But he never discouraged his fame and idolworship. He sold a rug for $5000 just for some shekels lol
He started getting his daughter into the grift before he went away.
When he came back he intensely promoted her in front of camera and behind the scenes. He got her set up with good gigs. She has no degree in psychology but since she is his daughter, people think she is a genius too. Good for a dad to help his daughter. But they are at this point grifting.
From the beginning I had a concern at the extreme level of devotion that his vulnerable male followers have for him. If you had a question about him they would swarm and attack you. They consider him a replacement daddy. It was cult-like. Peterson was their God and father. Now Andrew Tate is filling the void and also receiving idol worship. To a life destroying level for many of his followers.
Now Peterson's daughter also has a massive platform...
When he came back, I was very disappointed that he just went on a fluff celebrity tour, interviewing socially acceptable and cool people like Wim Hof. He basically completely ignored what was going on about lockdowns /brutality/ rights being trampled across the world, and especially the situation in Canada. If he had really spoken truth to power in that situation, it would have made a massive difference.. I think he was bought off in exchange for his daughter's fame as well.
I agree, now he is in fear porn. That is a good point that I couldn't put my finger on.
long story short, I kind of hate Jung, which is basically occultism sold in a wrapper of psychology, and he pushes it like crazy. it's not religiously motivated. this shit literally gives me chills.