That you can’t maintain conversational context for even a single post
Can you? If so, explain what you meant specifically, if anything, by “No one said a goddamn thing you claimed.” Otherwise, don’t waste your breath.
If you expect anyone to take you seriously or believe you, they do.
I don’t expect nor demand anything, that’s your script. I certainly don’t want them to believe anything. Belief is the enemy of knowledge, and objective study of any kind. I can, of course, provide evidence - but that isn’t as meaningful as you misunderstand it to be. All mythology has evidence.
The compelling part is when they’re truthful
Lol. You can’t be this naive. Why are so many fooled by lies/falsity? Why are so many so wrong so often/consistently (including yourself)? Was it because they were too compelled by truth to notice? Don’t be silly. The truth hurts; it is often not compelling at all and a “bitter pill” besides.
This is just to keep you away from sane people.
No one is reading this but us - this thread has been deleted to boot. Technically only i am reading this; you are ignoring and mocking it to protect your foolish pride :(
The only reason to continue is because you wish to communicate/discuss, or because you are a disingenuous troll who enjoys (and/or is paid for) wasting time.
I hope it is the former, for both our sakes.
I try to reflect truth.
And that is a good and lofty goal. It is stupid to delude yourself into believing you have succeeded, or will always succeed.
You are wrong. I am explaining why you are wrong
No, you claimed i was a liar instead of doing that. Which is also a common shill/troll tactic. Coincidence, i’m sure...
You’ve already admitted you don’t believe truth exists
When? Please cite/quote my statement. You have clearly misunderstood me - which is unsurprising because by your own admission - you are only ignoring and mocking anyway.
Yep, I don’t give a shit about collaborating with people who want me exterminated
How about collaborating with people who don’t want you to be exterminated and would help to fight against it? Your attitude and approach prevent all collaboration and communication with others, especially those that disagree with you in any way. Your echo chamber, of your own making, does you harm.
truth is not petulance
No one said it was. I said demanding things was petulant. If you have truth, it will stand and defend itself by its own merit and virtue. Again your ad hominem, vitriol, and calls to suicide are unnecessary, across purposes, and only harming you. Such tactics are only resorted to when you don’t have truth...
It’s not that hard to demand it of others
No one said it was. I said it was childish and self defeating. Instead, request. As for the specific example i mock demanded citation and proof for - you could never provide it (especially not to a disingenuous party using such demands as a rhetorical device) and such demands only serve to disable communication/collaboration. That is their purpose.
You’re beyond saving.
You may well be as well, but a little earnest discussion shouldn’t hurt to try and remedy that. Don’t avoid it out of cowardice, pride, and/or vanity.
“Truth is subjective,”
No one said that except you, just now. I said proof was subjective.
Yeah, trolls and shills always want to know the truth
There is nothing wrong with wanting to know the truth. Your problem is declaring you already have it, sticking your fingers in your ears, and screaming like a child at everyone who has a differing view.
What makes you a troll is trolling. You can stop anytime you wish - i hope.
They always demand evidence for claims. That’s definitely how they behave.
Yes, that’s right. Demanding citation/evidence as a flimsy pretext to derail, disable, and discredit is a common shill/troll tactic. Do you seriously not recognize that?
I’m not compromising with objective, metaphysical evil.
No one is saying you should. This is a discussion about collaboration, communication, and civility/behavior.
Truth is the wall
We are not discussing truth. You keep conflating / shifting to it, but we are really discussing tactic, approach/behavior, and effective communication.
It is true that you shouldn’t accept claims you, yourself, have not thoroughly validated first. It is not true that demanding such validation is the best way to go about that.
My people are being exterminated from the face of the Earth
All the more reason to foster collaboration and rally allies. Your current approach has the opposite effect. If that is not your intention, you should stop working to help your enemy and do their work (divide) for them.
It’s called an immune response
It’s called mindless belligerence, and it only hinders communication and collaboration.
I’m not collaborating with relativists
To continue your metaphor, you are an auto-immune disease. You are attacking all indiscriminately, and are not communicating effectively enough to even determine who the relativists might be before blindly attacking. For instance, i am not a relativist - but you are too busy mocking, ignoring, attacking, and urging suicide to notice.
From that comment, two quotes stand out..."Another user (who I know is genuine) made the case in modmail that TallestSkil is a passionate and genuine user of this website, and asked he be unbanned on conspiracies despite his tendency to resort to telling other users to kill themselves in arguments."
and "I don't think anyone could make the case convincingly to me that TallestSkil is simply a spammer or troll who hates this website and it's users in general and is only here to troll, and as such needs to be banned outright."
So some user vouched for TallestSkil, and that apparently makes him bulletproof? The moderator is BEYOND convincing? TallestSkil says things like, "It’s cute to see all the autistic cowards come together to have a circle jerk of lies"...how is that not an attack on the users?
Same thing with the shill iknowitsu. Just recently said, "Too bad most the people here have a ridiculously low IQ." Apparently stuff like that is fine.
One can only surmise that they are alts of the mods, admin accounts, or that the mods are complicit.
If he thinks Jews are evil, why is he attacking conspiracy theorists?
Because in classic conpro shill form, everyone who disagrees with him is automatically a “jew”.
Apparently stuff like that is fine.
We can’t very well ban proud/vain delusion and stupidity. I mean, we can but there won’t be many people left here.
I can’t speak to why the mods here support or defend tallestskill. I can understand not tolerating death threats, encouraging of suicide, or general ad hominem of any kind. Helping to train such users to follow those simple rules or not be part of the discussion through banning and/or deletion of such comments is certainly arguable.
As a mod myself (not of this community of course), i personally tolerate such things because i detest censorship and support freedom of speech to a fault. My line is disingenuousness. If you are a bot, or willfully trolling - essentially only then will you be banned/silenced. In any case, if your community has rules (most of them do not - it is not straightforward to populate them in the communities.win format) they should certainly be equally apportioned.
One can only surmise that they are alts of the mods, admin accounts, or that the mods are complicit.
That would be sad. Such things do happen, and would undoubtedly be a tactic to ensure communities like this always remain “limited hangouts” and to stifle/destroy community whenever possible.
I find this likely. They very rarely stay on topic, and usually just seek to inflame/insult.
That is NOT someone interested in truth or conspiracies.
Very possibly. They claim to be very interested in their own, zealous, truth. They certainly don’t seem to be very interested in earnest discussion or research in any case - especially if it contradicts “their truth”.
Can you? If so, explain what you meant specifically, if anything, by “No one said a goddamn thing you claimed.” Otherwise, don’t waste your breath.
I don’t expect nor demand anything, that’s your script. I certainly don’t want them to believe anything. Belief is the enemy of knowledge, and objective study of any kind. I can, of course, provide evidence - but that isn’t as meaningful as you misunderstand it to be. All mythology has evidence.
Lol. You can’t be this naive. Why are so many fooled by lies/falsity? Why are so many so wrong so often/consistently (including yourself)? Was it because they were too compelled by truth to notice? Don’t be silly. The truth hurts; it is often not compelling at all and a “bitter pill” besides.
No one is reading this but us - this thread has been deleted to boot. Technically only i am reading this; you are ignoring and mocking it to protect your foolish pride :(
The only reason to continue is because you wish to communicate/discuss, or because you are a disingenuous troll who enjoys (and/or is paid for) wasting time.
I hope it is the former, for both our sakes.
And that is a good and lofty goal. It is stupid to delude yourself into believing you have succeeded, or will always succeed.
No, you claimed i was a liar instead of doing that. Which is also a common shill/troll tactic. Coincidence, i’m sure...
When? Please cite/quote my statement. You have clearly misunderstood me - which is unsurprising because by your own admission - you are only ignoring and mocking anyway.
How about collaborating with people who don’t want you to be exterminated and would help to fight against it? Your attitude and approach prevent all collaboration and communication with others, especially those that disagree with you in any way. Your echo chamber, of your own making, does you harm.
No one said it was. I said demanding things was petulant. If you have truth, it will stand and defend itself by its own merit and virtue. Again your ad hominem, vitriol, and calls to suicide are unnecessary, across purposes, and only harming you. Such tactics are only resorted to when you don’t have truth...
No one said it was. I said it was childish and self defeating. Instead, request. As for the specific example i mock demanded citation and proof for - you could never provide it (especially not to a disingenuous party using such demands as a rhetorical device) and such demands only serve to disable communication/collaboration. That is their purpose.
You may well be as well, but a little earnest discussion shouldn’t hurt to try and remedy that. Don’t avoid it out of cowardice, pride, and/or vanity.
No one said that except you, just now. I said proof was subjective.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to know the truth. Your problem is declaring you already have it, sticking your fingers in your ears, and screaming like a child at everyone who has a differing view.
What makes you a troll is trolling. You can stop anytime you wish - i hope.
Yes, that’s right. Demanding citation/evidence as a flimsy pretext to derail, disable, and discredit is a common shill/troll tactic. Do you seriously not recognize that?
No one is saying you should. This is a discussion about collaboration, communication, and civility/behavior.
We are not discussing truth. You keep conflating / shifting to it, but we are really discussing tactic, approach/behavior, and effective communication.
It is true that you shouldn’t accept claims you, yourself, have not thoroughly validated first. It is not true that demanding such validation is the best way to go about that.
All the more reason to foster collaboration and rally allies. Your current approach has the opposite effect. If that is not your intention, you should stop working to help your enemy and do their work (divide) for them.
It’s called mindless belligerence, and it only hinders communication and collaboration.
To continue your metaphor, you are an auto-immune disease. You are attacking all indiscriminately, and are not communicating effectively enough to even determine who the relativists might be before blindly attacking. For instance, i am not a relativist - but you are too busy mocking, ignoring, attacking, and urging suicide to notice.
Do you think if he were REALLY white and not Jewish, he would be arguing and slandering every white person on here?
If he thinks Jews are evil, why is he attacking conspiracy theorists?
And why is this done with the APPROVAL of the mods?
From that comment, two quotes stand out..."Another user (who I know is genuine) made the case in modmail that TallestSkil is a passionate and genuine user of this website, and asked he be unbanned on conspiracies despite his tendency to resort to telling other users to kill themselves in arguments."
and "I don't think anyone could make the case convincingly to me that TallestSkil is simply a spammer or troll who hates this website and it's users in general and is only here to troll, and as such needs to be banned outright."
So some user vouched for TallestSkil, and that apparently makes him bulletproof? The moderator is BEYOND convincing? TallestSkil says things like, "It’s cute to see all the autistic cowards come together to have a circle jerk of lies"...how is that not an attack on the users?
Same thing with the shill iknowitsu. Just recently said, "Too bad most the people here have a ridiculously low IQ." Apparently stuff like that is fine.
One can only surmise that they are alts of the mods, admin accounts, or that the mods are complicit.
Because in classic conpro shill form, everyone who disagrees with him is automatically a “jew”.
We can’t very well ban proud/vain delusion and stupidity. I mean, we can but there won’t be many people left here.
I can’t speak to why the mods here support or defend tallestskill. I can understand not tolerating death threats, encouraging of suicide, or general ad hominem of any kind. Helping to train such users to follow those simple rules or not be part of the discussion through banning and/or deletion of such comments is certainly arguable.
As a mod myself (not of this community of course), i personally tolerate such things because i detest censorship and support freedom of speech to a fault. My line is disingenuousness. If you are a bot, or willfully trolling - essentially only then will you be banned/silenced. In any case, if your community has rules (most of them do not - it is not straightforward to populate them in the communities.win format) they should certainly be equally apportioned.
That would be sad. Such things do happen, and would undoubtedly be a tactic to ensure communities like this always remain “limited hangouts” and to stifle/destroy community whenever possible.
That's the thing....Tallestskil IS willfully trolling.
He will scan all the threads for any mention of himself, and then immediately pounce. I caught him doing this multiple times now.
That is NOT someone interested in truth or conspiracies.
I find this likely. They very rarely stay on topic, and usually just seek to inflame/insult.
Very possibly. They claim to be very interested in their own, zealous, truth. They certainly don’t seem to be very interested in earnest discussion or research in any case - especially if it contradicts “their truth”.