Exactly. That marketing "AI" term, that have nothing to do with how things really works, misleading people even here from that simple fact. All that artificial "neural" network crap could do only what it was trained for. Pretty obvious goal of transfer responsibility to some "AI". "Oh, no, that's not us who paid IT guys to train ANN for result we want, it's a decision of AI".
I even don't know if it possible yet to somehow explain what is really going on for fellow conspiracy theorists, who just don't bother to study how things works and unquestionaly believe in that plain stupid AI lies. And it is even not some flatearters trolls, it is people who supposedly have to question everything. Yes, you need some basic level of knowledge in math and programming to get the trick with ANNs, it is sligtly more complex than finding mismatches in, say, coronahoax numbers or stock trading stuff, but it is not as hard as many think. ANNs is very simple things, there can't be any sign of intellect at all in this layers of equations, but even if I write a post with that math and explanations nobody will read it. As they don't bother to read anything about ANNs, cryptography, networks, computers, semiconductors and hundreds things that surround us. Just to not be fooled by propaganda.
Knowledge - is the only way if not to win, but at least to survive. Ability to notice inconsistencies and to find interesting info is absolutely not enough. Even if everybody around will finally awake for truth (which is barely possible with this level of uncuriosity), it will not be enough. Because there will be nobody who know how things work and how that info could be used with things around to defeat the enemy. It will be just people who believe in another things (possibly as fake, as things they believed before), nothing more.
I stopped trying to explain to people that a computer can't be really "smart" or think for it self, even some programmers fall into AI is the next big thing, AI will be alive, etc...
Yesterday a friend of mine sent me a bunch of AI images which he thought was proof that computers will be better than humans even in art. I pretended to agree, nothing to gain trying to argue that one.
Lol, and I get tired of sharing my opinion on the matter. But ill entertain you anyway.
Have you actually used a neural net for anything? You perhaps use the results of these neural nets everyday. Matrices with learned behaviors, much like neural pathways in the brain, that perform very specific tasks... like recognizing the letter A, or recognizing the object you take a picture of.
Again these are not neural nets, they are the results of them and after millions, sometimes trillions, of iterations, once the desired behavior is reached. They take a snapshot of the pathways built and we use those copies.
I will admit, while I have studied alot of the theory and have wanted to use them in my game. I dont feel like im smart enough to do it.
The only thing that limits these neural nets is classical computing. I would bet even if you could link every traditional computer on the planet together, you might have something with the power of a 100 human brains, maybe.
Quantum computers could very well solve this limitation. Allowing for a larger amount of connections. This is slightly related, but there is a theory out there that the only thing that divides us from apes, is we undergo one extra doubling of neural cells, and that gives us the processing power we need to be what we are.
And sure, I dont blame you guys for calling bullshit. But what do you think dna is? It's natures programming language.
Classical computers can barely even touch dna, which is why using them has taken decades to even map the genome out. Let alone understand how all the different base pairs interact with each other, since its not linear like classical computers. Something human brains have a hard time understanding. This is why mathematicians make crazy money....
Quantum computers will allow them to understand how these things work since they operate on an entirely different level of reality :/.
If its bullshit, what the hell was I learning in my classes lol. And what I mean exactly by that, is in a video linked yesterday about the great pyramid and tesla, there is a segment where someone is explaining that everything in the universe can be described by math. And it may be how we communicate with each other into the future.
Going into calculus, I learned alot about what this means.
I do not underestimate the computing power of any future computers that might be developed whether quantum or something else they might come up with. But what I mean is that in the end it will do what YOU desire it do and learn what you desire it to learn. It all depends on the parameters you set. It's an extension of your brain. Sure it can jumble up different data you give it and turn out something which feels like it's creative but it's not really creative.
I suppose this is more philosophical than science. It's whether or not you believe there is freewill or the divine or not. If you think humans are automatons then yes, some form of artificial network or huge amount of NAND gates would replace humans. It all boils down to humans trying to be God I suppose.
J.Clark Scott in "But How Do It Know" has a nice couple of pages at the end of his book which you can download here: https://b-ok.asia/book/13492434/677b2b
Exactly. That marketing "AI" term, that have nothing to do with how things really works, misleading people even here from that simple fact. All that artificial "neural" network crap could do only what it was trained for. Pretty obvious goal of transfer responsibility to some "AI". "Oh, no, that's not us who paid IT guys to train ANN for result we want, it's a decision of AI".
I even don't know if it possible yet to somehow explain what is really going on for fellow conspiracy theorists, who just don't bother to study how things works and unquestionaly believe in that plain stupid AI lies. And it is even not some flatearters trolls, it is people who supposedly have to question everything. Yes, you need some basic level of knowledge in math and programming to get the trick with ANNs, it is sligtly more complex than finding mismatches in, say, coronahoax numbers or stock trading stuff, but it is not as hard as many think. ANNs is very simple things, there can't be any sign of intellect at all in this layers of equations, but even if I write a post with that math and explanations nobody will read it. As they don't bother to read anything about ANNs, cryptography, networks, computers, semiconductors and hundreds things that surround us. Just to not be fooled by propaganda.
Knowledge - is the only way if not to win, but at least to survive. Ability to notice inconsistencies and to find interesting info is absolutely not enough. Even if everybody around will finally awake for truth (which is barely possible with this level of uncuriosity), it will not be enough. Because there will be nobody who know how things work and how that info could be used with things around to defeat the enemy. It will be just people who believe in another things (possibly as fake, as things they believed before), nothing more.
I stopped trying to explain to people that a computer can't be really "smart" or think for it self, even some programmers fall into AI is the next big thing, AI will be alive, etc...
Yesterday a friend of mine sent me a bunch of AI images which he thought was proof that computers will be better than humans even in art. I pretended to agree, nothing to gain trying to argue that one.
Lol, and I get tired of sharing my opinion on the matter. But ill entertain you anyway.
Have you actually used a neural net for anything? You perhaps use the results of these neural nets everyday. Matrices with learned behaviors, much like neural pathways in the brain, that perform very specific tasks... like recognizing the letter A, or recognizing the object you take a picture of.
Again these are not neural nets, they are the results of them and after millions, sometimes trillions, of iterations, once the desired behavior is reached. They take a snapshot of the pathways built and we use those copies.
I will admit, while I have studied alot of the theory and have wanted to use them in my game. I dont feel like im smart enough to do it.
The only thing that limits these neural nets is classical computing. I would bet even if you could link every traditional computer on the planet together, you might have something with the power of a 100 human brains, maybe.
Quantum computers could very well solve this limitation. Allowing for a larger amount of connections. This is slightly related, but there is a theory out there that the only thing that divides us from apes, is we undergo one extra doubling of neural cells, and that gives us the processing power we need to be what we are.
And sure, I dont blame you guys for calling bullshit. But what do you think dna is? It's natures programming language.
Classical computers can barely even touch dna, which is why using them has taken decades to even map the genome out. Let alone understand how all the different base pairs interact with each other, since its not linear like classical computers. Something human brains have a hard time understanding. This is why mathematicians make crazy money....
Quantum computers will allow them to understand how these things work since they operate on an entirely different level of reality :/.
If its bullshit, what the hell was I learning in my classes lol. And what I mean exactly by that, is in a video linked yesterday about the great pyramid and tesla, there is a segment where someone is explaining that everything in the universe can be described by math. And it may be how we communicate with each other into the future.
Going into calculus, I learned alot about what this means.
Thx for the post, enjoyed reading it.
I do not underestimate the computing power of any future computers that might be developed whether quantum or something else they might come up with. But what I mean is that in the end it will do what YOU desire it do and learn what you desire it to learn. It all depends on the parameters you set. It's an extension of your brain. Sure it can jumble up different data you give it and turn out something which feels like it's creative but it's not really creative.
I suppose this is more philosophical than science. It's whether or not you believe there is freewill or the divine or not. If you think humans are automatons then yes, some form of artificial network or huge amount of NAND gates would replace humans. It all boils down to humans trying to be God I suppose.
J.Clark Scott in "But How Do It Know" has a nice couple of pages at the end of his book which you can download here: https://b-ok.asia/book/13492434/677b2b