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posted 3 years ago by GynaNumbaZero 3 years ago by GynaNumbaZero +8 / -3
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– roboarmy 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The belief that any single method of energy production will solve all energy consumption needs is not accounting for strengths and weaknesses in the various systems. While there may or may not be a place for nuclear power plants the system needs to be diversified both in methods and location of production. As well a proper system will move away from centralized generation to distributed.

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– xolotltlaloc 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The belief that any single method of energy production will solve all energy consumption needs is not accounting for strengths and weaknesses in the various systems.

absolutely 100%

and widely distributed / decentralized

(e.g., solar on roofs, portable fusion, local tesla towers, etc.)

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– CrazyRussian 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

IDK, but in Russia nuclear power plants are more than profitable, even with our relatively low electricity prices. Pure total profit of Rosatom from its NPPs electricity is around $10B a year. There even new reactors and power plants rising here, and there are plans to reach 25% of nuclear power in all electricity to 2035. On average, NPP full investments return period is 25 years with investor profit at 10% per year on top (I mean investor will receive 10% of profit a year in addition to investments return during that time). On average, 1kW of nuclear power electricity in Russia cost ~$3K. Yes, it is not a cheapest energy source possible, but perfectly affordable, accounting power stability and no need for permanent fuel supply lines as for combustion power plants or specific landscape as for hydropower. You will pay around same $3k per 1kW if you want a reliable diesel or natural gas backup generator that could run for a week non-stop. Even shitty home grade Generac backup generators cost ~$1k per 1kW and they can't run for weeks. I will instantly pay $3k/kW for personal backup generator that will have reliability and stability of NPP, and need for refueling once in 5 years of runtime.

May be there is something wrong with France and its politics of maintaining and supervising NPPs, and not with nuclear power plants profitability?

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– CrazyRussian 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

As I understand, there is no common country-wide electric system, it is more state-wide separate nets. Also, powerhungry industries that could stabilise energy consumption is closed or relocated abroad.

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– CrazyRussian 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Also, don't underestimate political games.

EU demanded an electricity from France, since France is 70% nuclear and barely depends on EU sanctioned Russian fuel.

France have no any desire to share electricity with EU, since it will be necessary to resolve upcoming heating problems.

So, France unroll a fake narrative in MSM that NPPs are in bad state, need mintenance, there are no profit and so on as a reason for denial of EU demands.

It could be as simple as that.

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– Helloworld0 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Good point. For some reason GynaNymbaZero always has a hate-on for nuclear energy. I don't know where the user gets the idea that there are lots of nuclear energy shills.... over the past decades, the industry has been attacked, villified and greatly reduced.

https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-a-f/canada-nuclear-power.aspx

https://www.opg.com/powering-ontario/our-generation/nuclear/pickering-nuclear-generation-station/

It is not the technology that is flawed, it is the management and bureaucracy.

https://www.brucepower.com/about-us/history/

Most people don't know this but Wind power is dirty. Some people more knowledgeable about physics would be better able to explain.

Essentially, Wind power is only viable due to traditional energies stabilizing the grid. Nuclear energy is very clean. As is Natural gas etc since they can very precisely dial the hertz or whatever.

Wind power adds energy in random spurts and at random speeds into the grid. This would not be viable except stable clean energies make up the majority so that the wind power hertz/amps (??) or whatever it is called goes into the pattern and rhythm of the stable energies and is absorbed like streams into a river.

I am not sure how clean hydro electrical energy is. I suspect since it is an older technology, they know how to use pressure to make a clean reliable energy that is a controlled hertz/Amp.

Solar energy can't be stored and I don't think it is clean.

Back in 2003 there was a black-out in the English-Canada (Ontario region), French- Canada (Quebec) and the US grid.

http://www.ontariotenants.ca/electricity/articles/2003/ts-03i08.phtml

The French had discreetly installed the ability to isolate themselves from the rest of the grid and leave the Anglos in the dark.

So France could have similiar plans and technology against Europeans.

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– Helloworld0 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Did you see the post about Putin's video being a deep-fake? What do you think?

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Didn't see, but I think it is possible. The idea of virtual president and other politicians of Russian Federation was even a part of plot in popular "Generation П" novel by V.Pelevin long ago. A couple years ago even a movie by that novel was filmed with same thing in plot. So, it is not something new at all.

However, the theory that there are clones or actors that plays the role of Putin is much more popular among Russian conspiracy theorists.

As for me, in the past I was into that theories, but now I think that it absolutely does not matter, if Putin real, CGI, clones or actors, because it does not matter who you see on TV, only whose orders are carried out and with what results.

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– Ep0ch 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The problem with the energy crisis, are corrupt capitalist assholes. The only problem with the energy crisis is corrupt capitalist assholes.

Real obvious and real simple nationalise the energy grid. Stop using taxes to pay assholes. Use taxes to build and replace the grid standardising it into a fixed energy rate. It could be any simpler or obvious.

But it doesn't compute. These corrupt assholes are using taxes to enrich themselves. They even sit on government. Shareholders, even energy barons as represented members of your governments. Taking your taxes, getting a loan from the banks who are in cahoots, then paying themselves. They require how many more grants currently for the shortfall of gas.

Simply seize control of the energy companies nationalising the grid that's being replaced. If it's a debt anyway buy the fucking debt and nationalise it. Stop paying these assholes taxes.

Literally cannot think of anything stupider than the proposed energy coupons. Seize the fucking grid, build, replace it, standardise a price.

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– xolotltlaloc 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The problem with the energy crisis, are corrupt ... assholes.

100%

Government is broken, everyone knows it - and that's why WEF et al are pushing for a "Great Reset".

The question remains: will "assholes" or "we the people" drive the reset?

i.e., the great reset will happen. people have an opportunity to take control (and by take control, i mean MASSIVELY decentralize) and awaken in the most epic of a "renaissance".

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– Ep0ch 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

But the problem then becomes the economy. It relies on the generation of energy. Relying on the energy companies for output, the banks, the government grants, and your taxes.

But in this situation, it has become a real swamp. How do you address the grid. Today it isn't wartime that legally authorising emergency, where hey you send in the stormtroopers and control it. These assholes, Cromwellian swine, are sitting on government. They won't endorse an emergency if they're profiting. The economy is still holding, but it's a crisis. I know I know use the taxes and pay them more. The difference is a Crisis is still profitable, but an Emergency you have to act.

Unless you're German, they fucking seized it, the gas, it was in emergency. Not the electricity yet, I don't think. Until then they won't do the shit that needs to be done. It could create a wider ripple to the economy. A bigger backlash where a bunch of pointless laws, have a bunch of clauses, and any head of state will probably be forced out for even attempting it. Stop paying us the taxes. What are you suggesting. Exiled.

But hell it needs to be done. It should be simple. It isn't. Despite it being really obvious.

Yea it could get there. Because I mean anything is better than another coupon.

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– the-new-style 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

your energy supply should match the structure of your society

nuclear is regulated and ordered, not chaotic

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– toadman 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Because coal is fucking nasty. Natural gas heating became commonplace in my city in the late 1990s. Before that the city was heated with coal. There was soot everywhere. It fucking sucks. And that soot is also often radioactive. Health wise you're way better off living near a nuclear plant than a coal plant.

Gas is great but there isn't quite as much of it. Not that there is infinite coal either, but there is effectively infinite nuclear fuel.

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– Helloworld0 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Good point

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– xolotltlaloc 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

France can't even run an existing Nuclear Plants at a profit, during an energy crisis.

Who is "France"?

Do you mean the Macron's French national government?

Électricité de France S.A., commonly known as EDF, is a French multinational electric utility company, largely owned by the French state.

In which case... let me propose:

bureaucracy is the problem - not nuclear power plants (as a viable solution to a nation's energy demands); however

ideally, power production should be widely distributed (e.g., solar on roofs, portable fusion, local tesla towers, etc.)

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

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