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"Mars" rover incidentally discovers doorway carved into rock-face. NASA: "SHUT IT DOWN!" (media.scored.co)
posted 3 years ago by clemaneuverers 3 years ago by clemaneuverers +24 / -0
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– DZP1 7 points 3 years ago +8 / -1

I've already pointed out that NASA could have used the drone to blow some dust off the solar panels to improve charging ability. Basically they could do that by simply hovering the drone over the panels, or even landing it on a panel and running the lift rotor / fans. Their control is good enough to do it, and assisted by a lot of position sensors (there is no GPS on Mars of course). While not a perfect method, it would restore some sunlight access.

They have plenty of people at JPL, which runs the mission. However, they fired the ones who refused to get the kill jab, so my guess is the team is somewhat dimmer.

Added: I forgot - Martian gravity is much lower than Earth. Which means dust is proportionately lighter. Hence it should be quite easy to blow it off panels. Which makes me wonder why NASA is claiming it is so hard to remove the dust coating. But now we come to the next factor: Martian atmosphere is thinner, meaning it cannot carry as much force as it is blown. Which means the drone air push would be proportionally reduced. I can see that a drone designed to operate on Mars has two key factors: lighter weight from lower gravity, but in thinner air so it needs large propellers or higher speed.

In hindsight, NASA should have given the robotic arm a wiping pad to use.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Is the dust something "stickier" like silica dust or something?

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– DZP1 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

You bring up a good thought. Mars air is extremely dry. In such a case we have to consider electrostatic attraction as a factor. With no water to dissipate charge buildup on dust, like fine dust, it could tend to stick to surfaces. If so, then wouldn''t we see it on cameras lenses or their cover shields? Also, might it clog moving parts over time, impeding rover wheels? I don't know.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I only bring it up, because I read somewhere that moon dust is not akin to beach sand in composition, but extremely fine.

Apropos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tLf1JO5bvE

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– DZP1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yes, that's good to know, and you may have identified an important thing about Mars dust. It's ancient and probably finely ground over time. And if it's silica we are basically looking at powdered glass dust, which can hold a charge.

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– wereonit 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Both cases are terrible for NASA's missions.

If there is some cool science going on like electrostatic adhesion, why isn't a agency devoted to science education not talking about it? You are not the only person to point out this idea of blowing the panels clean. Not explaining themselves makes them look incompetent and wasteful.

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– DZP1 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The last decade has been devastating to NASA competence. At JPL, people quit starting in Obama era after NASA forced Caltech (which runs JPL) to institute clearance checks higher than necessary. After that, they mandated covid shots or get fired. So people left. I see it as a drain of the smarter independent people. When I was there, there was an undercurrent of achiever-political mindset in management, leading to stupidity in some areas. Not all but enough. I don't know whether the Mars mission has dumb people on staff, probably not all but maybe some. I do know that Caltech hence JPL is undercut by political correctness now, and some equal opportunity hires, which is deadly for engineering and science. For instance, Caltech no longer requires SATs, which is leadign to less qualified student being admitted. If JPL HR is now more SJW, that will bring in stupid people.

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– wereonit 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Sounds like big pharma.

"After that, they mandated covid shots or get fired. So people left. I see it as a drain of the smarter independent people. When I was there, there was an undercurrent of achiever-political mindset in management, leading to stupidity in some areas. Not all but enough"

"undercut by political correctness now, and some equal opportunity hires, which is deadly for engineering and science."

"HR is now more SJW, that will bring in stupid people."

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– beardmin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Wow that just makes too much sense. It was put up there in 2018, seems like they coulda figured that out. Really makes ya think.

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– 575guy 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The fact that anyone here post cnn or nasa really has me questioning how many glowies lurk here 🤦🏽

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– DZP1 -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

That's the problem with all social media. It can be spoofed far too easily. With freedom comes complications. I think social media may need to do what banks do: require proof of identity. Then we won't get 500 bots kissing Biden's ass.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– Primate98 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

We know NASA is a nonsense BS scam if for no other reason than any normal person would want to drive the rover over there to get a closer look, or at least take more pictures at different angles and times. Who even cares about "the science"? It would generate tons of public interest.

With NASA it's like, "Nah, we got all this other dust and rocks to look at. And anyway, what you saw you did not see."

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– wereonit 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Yep. There are other really strong arguments that this is fake, but this on its own is strong enough.

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– citypeople 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

A set door?

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– MrPim 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

So in your mind, we aren't on Mars, and then NASA shopped a door into their own cgi for no reason and now they're shutting it down because the door... shouldn't they hype this door more if they want to hype people for a Blue beam invasion?

It's not even a door for fucks sake

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– MindlessRationality 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It's already leaked....real truths are hidden quickly...to avoid any more attention. Not left to rot...

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– King_of_Crazy 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Devon Island, Mojave desert, Gobi desert. Where all the "Mars" photos come from.

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– Skyrison 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

you do realize that earth and mars are very similar ....right?? o.O

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– King_of_Crazy 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

And? Look into project Orion. NASA engineers admit to sending an unmanned rocket through the Van Allen radiation belts to test radiation levels and effects on the rocket and systems. Got to get through the belts to get to Mars, even the moon. Project Orion is NASA's first attempt at navigating through the belts. Hence, we have never been through them before.

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– Skyrison 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

-_-

you "moon landing fake, space isn't real" people are kinda stupid

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– King_of_Crazy 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Said nothing of that sort. Re-read my comment, then use that gray matter and look up project Orion.

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– dontdrinksoy 3 points 3 years ago +5 / -2

These mother-fuckers aren't on Mars.

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– clemaneuverers [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Ok, apparently it's not the rover, but the lander? that has dust covered panels:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/17/world/nasa-mars-insight-lander-update-scn/index.html

Whatever, NASA still sucks.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Is this kinda like the face carving in the rocks the Viking lander in the 1970s found that was just a result of a grainy photo?

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– clemaneuverers [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

High-res image of the whatever-it-is:

https://mars.nasa.gov/raw_images/1064629/?site=msl#.Ynvzslxw8ng.link

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– Mad_King_Kalak 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Thanks for this.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– no_ez 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Jo’n Jon’zz ‘s old place.

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