I work on cars. Teslas are the biggest pieces of shit I've ever seen recently. Horrible quality issues. Thin paint, thin sheet metal, misaligned panels, constant computer glitching, corrosion issues, and a horrible parts supply network. If your $100k iPad goes in the shop don't expect to have it back for a month or more. If you want an electric car, Hyundai makes a damn good one at half the price.
VW has a solution that makes the most sense. Solar bio fuels.
Regardless, cars are demonized because they're easy targets. Destruction of ecology, suburban sprawl, plastic waste, monocropped agriculture and meat, etc. have a much larger impact on the environment as a whole than bubba's V8 truck ever did.
There's a YouTuber "Rich Rebuilds" that talks about the issues with Tesla. He's pushing for the "right to repair". It's gotten better, in recent years Tesla has opened access to documentation, and you can order replacement parts now (although there is a wait, especially got worse during pandemic years).
Fixing the Tesla is still hard though, because there's few places that fix electric cars. But this niche will eventually get filled, like Rich Rebuild's "Electric Garage", he has 3 locations now to service Teslas and electric cars.
I disagree with your assessment that Tesla's are a big piece of shit. They're some of the best vehicles ever made, in terms of cabin and drive quality, longevity, and safety. They had issues initially with production, but Elon personally spent 3 years living in a factory to get them fixed. Today the build quality is much better, in terms of panel spacing and electrical issues.
I get it, you're paying $45k and there can be issues at delivery. We're talking about a new car company with less than 10 years of experience in mass-production. It's to be expected, but it will get better. If you're bothered by these issues, it's best you wait another 5 years. Realistically, electric cars are still not affordable for most people, and the electric infrastructure is still early too.
But that doesn't mean they're not doing great things, and I feel you're being disingenuous to not give them credit.
I looked into electric cars back at school and it always amazes me that they aren't more repairable, considering how simple they are compared to gas cars.
No timing chain, no gaskets, few fluid systems, basically one big moving part plus accessories and a little computer.
Shoot, I should be able to change the motor out in a couple hours with some friends and furniture straps.
If someone even pretends to care about the environment, they should be focused on the oceans, full stop.
Nothing affects global climate, food supply, weather patterns, or ecology more than the oceans, which we are currently dregding for the last few fish and filling with plastic waste.
I’ve had a Tesla for six years. There were definitely quality problems, but they fixed them ALL. This is now the most reliable, lowest maintenance car I’ve ever owned. 80k miles and rolling.
Oh yea, and Tesla can recycle 97% of the material in the battery pack.
This is more important than quality issues; the fact that they're gettibg fixed. People forget that these are largely still quasi-prototypes that are being fine tuned by a young company.
And yes, obviously you would recycle the batteries, the same way you do with every other battery. Throwing a battery in the dump is like pouring gasoline into a storm drain; if you do that, you're the asshole, not tesla.
Depleted Tesla batteries sell for $5000, I believe is the number I've heard. The minerals are very valuable and are used to create new lithium batteries.
I work on cars. Teslas are the biggest pieces of shit I've ever seen recently. Horrible quality issues. Thin paint, thin sheet metal, misaligned panels, constant computer glitching, corrosion issues, and a horrible parts supply network. If your $100k iPad goes in the shop don't expect to have it back for a month or more. If you want an electric car, Hyundai makes a damn good one at half the price.
VW has a solution that makes the most sense. Solar bio fuels.
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2021/05/20210504-bluegasoline.html
Regardless, cars are demonized because they're easy targets. Destruction of ecology, suburban sprawl, plastic waste, monocropped agriculture and meat, etc. have a much larger impact on the environment as a whole than bubba's V8 truck ever did.
i've been telling people if they wanna go for a battery EV, and they want a Tesla, they should wait around 5 more years at least.
they've been buying Teslas this last year - this year anyway
their reasoning is, and i quote "it's supposed to be better than old cars"
teslas are better for people with lots of money to burn. they dont make the financial sense for anyone without a spare 30k lying around.
you'll be happy to know in australia the people i've been talking about would've had to pay upwards of $90k
Liberals love Tesla.
and they also love tranny cocks. a match made in shitlib heaven
There's a YouTuber "Rich Rebuilds" that talks about the issues with Tesla. He's pushing for the "right to repair". It's gotten better, in recent years Tesla has opened access to documentation, and you can order replacement parts now (although there is a wait, especially got worse during pandemic years).
Fixing the Tesla is still hard though, because there's few places that fix electric cars. But this niche will eventually get filled, like Rich Rebuild's "Electric Garage", he has 3 locations now to service Teslas and electric cars.
I disagree with your assessment that Tesla's are a big piece of shit. They're some of the best vehicles ever made, in terms of cabin and drive quality, longevity, and safety. They had issues initially with production, but Elon personally spent 3 years living in a factory to get them fixed. Today the build quality is much better, in terms of panel spacing and electrical issues.
I get it, you're paying $45k and there can be issues at delivery. We're talking about a new car company with less than 10 years of experience in mass-production. It's to be expected, but it will get better. If you're bothered by these issues, it's best you wait another 5 years. Realistically, electric cars are still not affordable for most people, and the electric infrastructure is still early too.
But that doesn't mean they're not doing great things, and I feel you're being disingenuous to not give them credit.
I looked into electric cars back at school and it always amazes me that they aren't more repairable, considering how simple they are compared to gas cars.
No timing chain, no gaskets, few fluid systems, basically one big moving part plus accessories and a little computer.
Shoot, I should be able to change the motor out in a couple hours with some friends and furniture straps.
Seems unnecessarily complicated...
Definitely possible. On "Rich Rebuilds" channel they've put electric motors into mini-cooper and other vehicles.
The issue is that current mechanics aren't trained to work with complex electrical systems, and the shops don't have the tools for the jobs.
So mechanics and garages need to be retooled.
I thought theyre super simple and reliable?
yeah your name is pretty accurate. tl;dr'd
theyre really safe when you get in an accident and the handle sticks in the door. u have like 500 iq bub
If someone even pretends to care about the environment, they should be focused on the oceans, full stop.
Nothing affects global climate, food supply, weather patterns, or ecology more than the oceans, which we are currently dregding for the last few fish and filling with plastic waste.
I’ve had a Tesla for six years. There were definitely quality problems, but they fixed them ALL. This is now the most reliable, lowest maintenance car I’ve ever owned. 80k miles and rolling.
Oh yea, and Tesla can recycle 97% of the material in the battery pack.
these are 4 shades of the same lie
tesla shills tell these to themselves to feel good about spending 60k on a shitty luxury car
This is more important than quality issues; the fact that they're gettibg fixed. People forget that these are largely still quasi-prototypes that are being fine tuned by a young company.
And yes, obviously you would recycle the batteries, the same way you do with every other battery. Throwing a battery in the dump is like pouring gasoline into a storm drain; if you do that, you're the asshole, not tesla.
Depleted Tesla batteries sell for $5000, I believe is the number I've heard. The minerals are very valuable and are used to create new lithium batteries.