Show me where Moses or Solomon married blacks or Asians. Cite some chapter and verse. Solomon has a shit ton of wives and concubines, but were they from another race?
To your other points: Humans are rational animals, unlike animals in the jungle. We are inherently political as Aristotle notes. The "law of the jungle" or "war of all against all" which is what Thomas Hobbes described it is NOT a normal situation for human-kind. Anarchy doesn't exist for long because we immediately organize, granting rights to a sovereign in exchange for protection. Survival of the fittest is not, and has NEVER been human natural law.
And Jesus was God. God created nature, and what God decrees is natural, if sometimes uncomfortable. For example, God created a universe with suffering in it, like disease, old age, and death.
And how practical is it for a church to tel it's multi racial members to only date within their race? What if there is one asian or black person? It makes no sense and it would be cruel to the constituents. Or God forbid you tell them to leave their friends here and go find a black or asian church because "race mixing is bad". Disgusting to think about.
My church is incredibly diverse; it has blacks, asians, Indians, hispanics, and is only about 75% white. I'm there every Sunday.
The topic never comes up, and the official doctrine of the church is silent on the matter. As a matter of Christianity, among the 40,000 various denominations, I'm sure you're going to find a range of answers.
Like I said, you MIGHT make a case that race mixing is against the natural law. Not everything is in the Bible. Frankly, I'm not sure either way. You're talking about things way way way off in left field when it comes to natural law rather than the topic at hand.
Fine. I'm no expert on arguments of natural law, which is why I take things back to scripture.
I just know this I only care about someone being spiritually compatible, and I'm looking for my future wife in foreign lands and I don't really care what anyone thinks about it but Jesus.
The last thing I would say, is that you can't find anywhere in the Bible where it says to rely only on the Bible. Until Jerome translated the bible in the 400s into Latin, and nevermind widespread illiteracy, most Christians in the early days never had access to a Bible. John didn't even write the book of Revelation until he was an old old man, the last surviving apostle until something close to 100AD. Sacred tradition is also a thing we should respect.
No law of the jungle? The beast is your nation now. The Bible even describes nations as beasts, and we are warned about worshiping the beast in the last days. We are required to reject that beast (nation) that claims to rule over us.
The Romans conquered and enslaved their neighbors, that is a beast preying upon another. As Christians we are called to not live "by the sword" i.e. by conquest.
And Jesus was God. God created nature, and what God decrees is natural
If the animal kingdom is your guide you become like the Freemason, who is condemned. He looks to "mother nature" to justify his depravity. This is a fallen world.
And you claim I'm providing nothing, while you yourself are making a scripture-less argument. I made reference to two very important figures who had wives outside their race in the Bible and I'm sure they weren't the last (I'm just not a great Biblical scholar, but I know what I need to know to cite here).
You are arguing from your own personal preferences, but you have no right to force that on others or shame others for making a choice of whom they marry within the faith. If you were judging by the spirit ("this person is not a Christian therefore they should marry") you are in line with scripture. Otherwise no, you are simply enforcing your own preferences, simple as that.
I only follow mother nature for dietary choices, beyond that I look to my God given conscience, scripture and prayer.
Show me where Moses or Solomon married blacks or Asians. Cite some chapter and verse. Solomon has a shit ton of wives and concubines, but were they from another race?
To your other points: Humans are rational animals, unlike animals in the jungle. We are inherently political as Aristotle notes. The "law of the jungle" or "war of all against all" which is what Thomas Hobbes described it is NOT a normal situation for human-kind. Anarchy doesn't exist for long because we immediately organize, granting rights to a sovereign in exchange for protection. Survival of the fittest is not, and has NEVER been human natural law.
And Jesus was God. God created nature, and what God decrees is natural, if sometimes uncomfortable. For example, God created a universe with suffering in it, like disease, old age, and death.
And how practical is it for a church to tel it's multi racial members to only date within their race? What if there is one asian or black person? It makes no sense and it would be cruel to the constituents. Or God forbid you tell them to leave their friends here and go find a black or asian church because "race mixing is bad". Disgusting to think about.
My church is incredibly diverse; it has blacks, asians, Indians, hispanics, and is only about 75% white. I'm there every Sunday.
The topic never comes up, and the official doctrine of the church is silent on the matter. As a matter of Christianity, among the 40,000 various denominations, I'm sure you're going to find a range of answers.
Like I said, you MIGHT make a case that race mixing is against the natural law. Not everything is in the Bible. Frankly, I'm not sure either way. You're talking about things way way way off in left field when it comes to natural law rather than the topic at hand.
The tower of bable is proof God is against racemixing. You as a jew ofcourse are against God, so you spread lies.
The Tower of Babel is proof that God punishes people for hubris.
Fine. I'm no expert on arguments of natural law, which is why I take things back to scripture.
I just know this I only care about someone being spiritually compatible, and I'm looking for my future wife in foreign lands and I don't really care what anyone thinks about it but Jesus.
The last thing I would say, is that you can't find anywhere in the Bible where it says to rely only on the Bible. Until Jerome translated the bible in the 400s into Latin, and nevermind widespread illiteracy, most Christians in the early days never had access to a Bible. John didn't even write the book of Revelation until he was an old old man, the last surviving apostle until something close to 100AD. Sacred tradition is also a thing we should respect.
No law of the jungle? The beast is your nation now. The Bible even describes nations as beasts, and we are warned about worshiping the beast in the last days. We are required to reject that beast (nation) that claims to rule over us.
The Romans conquered and enslaved their neighbors, that is a beast preying upon another. As Christians we are called to not live "by the sword" i.e. by conquest.
If the animal kingdom is your guide you become like the Freemason, who is condemned. He looks to "mother nature" to justify his depravity. This is a fallen world.
And you claim I'm providing nothing, while you yourself are making a scripture-less argument. I made reference to two very important figures who had wives outside their race in the Bible and I'm sure they weren't the last (I'm just not a great Biblical scholar, but I know what I need to know to cite here).
You are arguing from your own personal preferences, but you have no right to force that on others or shame others for making a choice of whom they marry within the faith. If you were judging by the spirit ("this person is not a Christian therefore they should marry") you are in line with scripture. Otherwise no, you are simply enforcing your own preferences, simple as that.
I only follow mother nature for dietary choices, beyond that I look to my God given conscience, scripture and prayer.
Try re-reading what I wrote again, and keep the comments from forking off with non-sequiters about who or what is the Beast from revelation.
Ok maybe I'm conflating you with someone else I've been discussing with. Anyway nobody is changing my mind on this unless it's from God himself.
If it's some dipshit named smokratez, I get it.
he's a jew, don't waste your time