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posted 3 years ago by DepopisDepop 3 years ago by DepopisDepop +33 / -0
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– CrazyRussian 5 points 3 years ago +7 / -2

That is already not even a case.

http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/68094 (in Russian, use non-Google online translator, Google don't want to transalte that page)

In the Putin's today's order on that matter, in chapter 6 we could clearly read the exact process of payments:

  1. Иностранный покупатель производит перевод средств на специальный валютный счет типа «К» в иностранной валюте, указанной в контракте на поставку природного газа, а уполномоченный банк на основании поручения иностранного покупателя, полученного в порядке, установленном правилами уполномоченного банка, осуществляет продажу иностранной валюты, поступившей от иностранного покупателя на такой счет, на организованных торгах, проводимых публичным акционерным обществом «Московская Биржа ММВБ – РТС», зачисляет вырученные средства в рублях на специальный рублевый счет типа «К» этого иностранного покупателя и производит перевод зачисленных средств в рублях на открытый российским поставщиком в уполномоченном банке рублевый счет.
  1. Foreign buyer do a trasaction to the special foreign currency account of type "K" in the foreign currency, stated in a gas supply contract, and authorized bank on the basis of order of foreign buyer, according to the rules of authorized bank, sell that currency of foreign buyer on the stock exchange "Moscow Stock MMVB-RTS" , put received funds on the special rouble account of type "K" of that foreign buyer and transfer them to the rouble account of supplier

Shortly - Europe/US pay in EUR/USD as usual, but not directly to Gazprom, but to the authorized bank not under the sanctions. Than, that bank exchange USD/EUR to RUB and transfer them to Gazprom account.

Even more short - Putin forbid Gazprom to receive foreign currency directly. Gazprom now have to pay additional money to bankers to buy the USD/EUR it need for equipment and other stuff.

So, that is just a complete hoax. Nothing is treating the global hoax fiat currency system.

I predict that before, believing that Putin is just a coward NWO shill and never will do anything to harm them.

So, all in all, Russia finally lost an unique chance to broke that shitty world fiat system and completely change the rules of the game, But, obviously Putin was not allowed to do that. Miracle did not happen, everything is according to NWO plan. Sorry, may be that is not what you want to hear, but so it goes.

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +5 / -1
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– CrazyRussian 4 points 3 years ago +5 / -1

finally, Central Bank of Russian Federation officially owned by "unnamed owners" and submit only to IMF orders.

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– CrazyRussian 1 point 3 years ago +3 / -2

You think the bank is going to charge Gazprom? Seems more likely they would charge the depositor requiring the exchange.

They will charge both. Twice. As usual. Gazprom will be charged for transfer from that type "K" rouble account to Gazprom account.

Gazprom buy a lot of Western equipment. So, it will be charged second time when will need a EUR/USD to pay for equipment.

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– R_Hak -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

Russia and China are not good guys.

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– CrazyRussian 3 points 3 years ago +5 / -2

There are no any good guys at all. Only parasites and people they consume.

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– Thisisnotanexit 3 points 3 years ago +4 / -1

There are mostly no good guys, especially in positions of 'power' but that does not mean to say the goodness is all gone.

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– CrazyRussian 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

Of course not all goodness gone, there are a lot of it around, but it mostly powerless, cheated and confused.

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– cxivv 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

At that level there are no good guys.

it's a bunch of leeches fighting who gets to squeeze the 7 billion of us the hardest for our work.

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– cxivv 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Depends on what you want to do with it, if you want to use it for some sort of power generation yeah LNG and hydrogen is a losing proposition.

if it's for production of plastics and other chemicals, getting it in liquid form might not be so bad.

You are right in that we should just get our own gas, the Netherlands should just reimburse the people who get their homes damaged from the fracking and just go full bore for a couple of years while we transition away from gas for heat and other energy. They still have the infrastructure in place but are in the middle of shutting it down for political reasons.

Having said that, I'd just open nordstream 2 buy cheap Russian gas but scrap gas as an intermediary for the energy transition and hasten it's phase out to a decade instead of 2050 in favor of nuclear

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– cxivv 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It's not perfect but the cons are extremely exaggerated. And the amount of nuclear waste generated by industry and healthcare are severely under estimated.

So not using nuclear power while having to deal with tonnes of nuclear waste anyway is dumb.

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– cxivv 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It's nation level technology, one of the few things france got right.

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– WhistlingTeeth 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

Taking effect on April Fools Day

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– ZyklonBen -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russia-wont-turn-off-gas-supplies-europe-friday-kremlin-says-2022-04-01/

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– ZyklonBen -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russia-wont-turn-off-gas-supplies-europe-friday-kremlin-says-2022-04-01/

Looks like Russkan propaganda was wrong again

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– ZyklonBen 0 points 3 years ago +2 / -2

Do you agree that Russia did not shut down the gas?

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