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posted 3 years ago by pkvi 3 years ago by pkvi +26 / -1
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– Skyrison 8 points 3 years ago +9 / -1

ukraine is a HOTSPOT for child porn and trafficking....

disgusting country

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– Corporis -8 points 3 years ago +5 / -13

Remember that many, many corrupt and criminal democrats are using Ukraine as their biggy bank, money laundering place and illegal kick-back from pay-for-play. We are talking pedophile joe biden, Romney, Kerry, McCain, Pelosi, Schiff, Mueller, Soros, Brennan, Obama and Clinton.

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– forinfren 2 points 3 years ago +4 / -2

Funnily enough, according to Pravda.ru, in mid-January, a Russian nuke sub surfaced just off the East Coast, gave everyone a metaphorical wave, and disappeared again. Which is a direct repeat of a stunt they pulled back in the late 80s / early 90s. Still, even if the news is true, I don't really think it's a gesture of impending attack, but more of a polite piece of advice concerning the US interfering more directly in the crisis.

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– IGOexiled 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

Correct. Retaliation would be instant, so our strike would have to be Total. We're back in the 60's where everyone's huddled around the red button that ends Earth. Except this time we're all crazy enough to actually push it.

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– forinfren 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Partially. Everyone's huddled around looking at the red button, that's true. But you know how in magic shows, everyone looking at something tends to be the plan of the magician all along? In this case, the economic restructuring taking place while everyone's busy looking at the button, will have far greater consequences - such that cannot be discussed openly, let alone in the media. We're talking a near-complete remapping of major resource supply lines, resulting in a significant shift of the international balance of power.

Just as an example, right before the Ukraine crisis began, Russia and China signed a massive gas supply deal valid for the next 30 years - enough to offset any economic sanctions imposed by the EU. The kicker is, the gas is paid in euros - meaning the EU would also have to avoid sabotaging the deal, or suffer a drop in currency value that rivals that of Venezuela, only with the added threat of dissolution as a result.

That way, along with a couple of other deals between Russia and China, they have made their economies independent of the west, making them power players to rival all of NATO combined. And this is something that gets the obligatory fleeting coverage, while everyone is looking at the button.

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– Xaviermgk -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

Funnily enough, you are getting fake upvotes and replies to your comments get fake downvotes.

How does that work, Ukraine expert?

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– Danglin_Fury3769 6 points 3 years ago +7 / -1

Yeah so, it's like the Bay of Pigs bullshit all over again...only reversed. People need to stand up and say enough of this bullshit.

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– DavidColeIntrepid 4 points 3 years ago +5 / -1

If they have to say "unprovoked" and "unjustified" then Russia was absolutely provoked and their actions are entirely justified.

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– forinfren 4 points 3 years ago +7 / -3

In other words, they'll send a bunch of obsolete gear barely worth a hundred mil, and launder and appropriate the rest of the money while scoring brownie points in the official narrative.

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– Xaviermgk -4 points 3 years ago +2 / -6

Look, the Ukraine expert!

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– WeedleTLiar 3 points 3 years ago +4 / -1

It's a great day for Lockheed and Raytheon, not so much for Americans

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– KiloRomeo 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Congress is needed to authorize a war and yet here we are

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– Ep0ch 1 point 3 years ago +4 / -3

The graphics are amazing.

Literally a bunch of shit, except for the drones. Possibly some of those anti armour weapons.

Whoosh, out goes the trains.

In any event aren't those peace talks stalling? If he's begging and they're still supplying.

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– forinfren 1 point 3 years ago +3 / -2

I wouldn't put much weight in the drones either. They aren't UCAVs, so that only leaves recon duty - which is useful for an attacking army, but not so much for defense, especially against open-field armored vehicles. Everyone already knows where the Russian tank columns are, satellite imaging already does a good enough job for that. Drone recon is simply not the right tool to use here. And I suspect the donors are well aware of that.

Instead, in addition to money-laundering, the whole donation op seem like an attempt to saturate the area with small arms and RPGs, not to pose a credible resistance, but as a kind of scorched earth tactic. Coupled with Zelensky's order to release the combat-capable criminals from prisons, this mass armament will result in a "Lord of War" situation, turning Ukraine into a failed state... which is convenient for both sides, since Russia won't rush to officially claim the territory, and the west will be unable to setup any strategic missile installation more complex than a couple of guys with handheld rocket launchers. Everybody wins... except for those civilians unlucky enough to still be within this newly-formed Euro-Somalia.

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– Ep0ch 1 point 3 years ago +3 / -2

Read somewhere they're kamikaze attack drones?

But I agree the graphics are much bigger on paper. But who is doing that audit? The big one is Slovakia air defenses, and other potential MiGs, and repeated calls for cruise.

Haven't the peace talks failed? Did that broadcast change. Or has it committed more?

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– forinfren 3 points 3 years ago +5 / -2

The peace talks are ostensibly stalling, which ties in to the operation described above - they're buying time to complete the weapon saturation. The lines from both sides that "compromises are discussed on key issues" are exactly the kind of generic non-commentary politicians say when they don't want to say anything.

However, Russian info agencies have started claiming that a resolution will come within a week now... not that we haven't heard that spiel a thousand times already, on certain other modern political matters. The question is how the cards will play out. There could simply be a cold shake of hands, with Russia assimilating the fledgling Donetsk and Lugansk republics while agreeing to leave Kiev alone. But I suspect the endgame won't be so smooth. I'm not expecting another "shot heard around the world", but I wouldn't be surprised if one comes along anyway.

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– Ep0ch 2 points 3 years ago +4 / -2

A fair assessment. Except why the later broadcasts from both.

One is still calling for aid, topic, missiles, no fly zones, and continues to remain committed too the last man.

While the other said objectives will be met, further condemning traitors.

Talks we heard a million times. But last conflict Syria, differences. What did they achieve? Despite the assumed positives.

Curiously any news is all over the place. Neutrality, Crimea, parts of a deal.

Meanwhile that shot gets louder and louder by further propagation and provocation. But in any event nobody wants hot if they can keep it cold.

Although who is listening to much at this rate, even Eastern Europe, where they could even charge in. Meanwhile the Saudis start trading yuan. It's getting edgier.

I am not expecting much they will finally agree on. They'll both dangle offers to draw it out. For the intent of looking meaningful in the larger picture for population, conflict, international. But are nowhere near ready to sign, despite the optimism

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