ATF Admits to secret database of almost a billion gun owners
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When a gun store goes out of business, its records are shipped to the Feds. They are supposed to store the paper copies only. But, our ATF scanned and OCRed them to make them searchable. Thus, they now have a partial database.
This is, of course, illegal. Gun owner registries are prohibited by the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1985.
Note, that law was a horse trade at the best, a shit deal at worst, because it also banned Tax Stamps for new machine guns, essentially regulating them to prohibitively high prices, although it did have some good reforms of the original (and terrible) Gun Control Act of 1968.
Lastly, if the feds wanted a gun owner database, they just talk to the credit card companies and get a list of anyone who's ever bought firearms or related material. The only people THAT would exclude would be those who inherited them, or paid cash for everything, two very small categories.
It's to bad for me, though, that I lost my guns is a tragic boating accident a few years ago.
Another database that I am on.
I know, but pointing out something is illegal, according to the black and white letter of the law, precludes a lot of debate.
Pointing out it is illegal, is also a way of bitching about the jack booted Nazi thugs at the ATF.
I know there are actual Nazis on Consumeproduct who make their way here, but I was referencing a 1990s controversy when the NRA called the ATF "jack booted Nazi thugs" (which they are) and President HW Bush resigned in protest.
I suppose anything ordered online, 80% or otherwise, is in the database.......fuck. But if it's not serialized and they can't find them if they were to look for them, are you really in a database? Fuck.
The paperwork lists you so its actually owners.its cool though the government is no longer bound by pesky laws
The database is from gun shops that go out of business. They ship their records to the ATF for retention. This database goes back at least 25 years. I remember reading about the ATF being prevented from making a database form these records way back in the 1990s by the Gingrich Congress during the Clinton years. I suppose at this point, the ATF said "fuck it, let's do it anyway".
About 40-45% of American households will admit on surveys to having a gun in the home. I suspect that most homes with guns have multiple guns, which means multiple gun purchases, which means multiple records.
So like every owner in the world?
i got over 50 guns just in my house. all unregistered lol
Before I lost them in my boating accident, I had a few. Every modern man should have (and know how to use) a CCW pistol he carries whenever possible, a rifle of some sort (preferably an AR) and a 12 gauge...minimum.
what is the point of authoring stories under the name of the main character from fight club? discrediting your own work?
It's called a "nom de plume" or pen name. It goes back centuries. Usually it's for anonymity, but the name also is used as a reference for the reader. For example, the Federalist Papers (which argued for ratification of the Constitution) were pen-named as written by "Publius" and ancient Roman known for his rationality, when they were written by Alexander Hamilton, Madison, and John Jay.
Likewise, many of the Anti-Federalist papers were written by "Brutus" who assassinated Caesar, an obvious reference to a fear of the central government that would come from the Constitution.
dude i know what a fucking pen name is. jesus christ.
this “writer” is intentionally making themselves look stupid. the name only detracts from the work.
This is the internet. It's impossible to tell, given the level of ignorance in this world. In the interest of Christian charity I provided an explanation, and further, why I believe he chose that pen name (that bit about association), which I don't think detracts from his writing.
Thanks
Also, I’m almost certain it is used by multiple writers for zerohedge
They really should change the name to zeroaccountability because that's what's going on there.
Nobody's name is on the line so they can spew divisive propaganda and click bait lies 24/7 with zerorepercussions. Yet it's cited here as a source daily by multiple users with the same intent. Division.