My Employer Vaccine email
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So private corporations can give medical advice now? Isn't that practicing medicine without a license?
diminished liability.
its a near-potent form of ignorance... besides plausible-deniability.
I work for one of the largest government contracted defense companies in the US and they finally released their Covid vaccine requirements yesterday.
What shocked me the most was the requirement for Remote Workers. I know of a few coworkers who have been remote workers for more than 5 years and do not interact physically with other employees...at all. Those people plus the additional 70% of our workforce who work from home since Covid, are now being forced to take the shot or submit an ACCOMMODATION...not "Exemption", which will have to be approved by higher ups.
I have no idea how they plan to prove ones religious accommodation, but i have a feeling they will not make this easy and possibly still give "accommodated" employees more hoops to jump through to even work.
I have been remote for 15 years, 11 with the company I'm currently at and they still mandated it. I got my religious exemption approved yesterday. Apparently they asked my manager if being if it was okay for me to not be vaxxed. Seriously?
If you file a religious exemption do not mention anything scientific or about the dangers or injuries. You do not have to mention the denomination, just your beliefs. Do not mention bodily autonomy even if that is part of your religious beliefs. You can have had other vaccines and just become religious yesterday, so don't let them intimidate you.
Anyway, don't bother with medical exemptions. They denied mine, although I did ask the doctor to be vague because I don't want to be discriminated against for my previous vaccine injuries. They stated that it has to be something the CDC says is a contraindiction. So I assume that is nearly impossible.
hey can you post here a draft of the religious exception?
I will not give you my exact answers. I do not want it to be searched and found by the company I work for, but I will summarize. I have an odd spirituality that I kinda blended all kinds of stuff together from the time when I was a teen and feeling things out, so I don't belong to a labeled religion, but I did not lie about anything in my exemption. I do believe these things.
I can give you the questions they asked. We also have the flu vax required. I used to fight that every year by arguing that I was remote and saying I'd wear a mask if I was sent into a facility, but now they wrapped that into the mandate.
Please explain the religious belief, observance, or practice that prevents you from getting the COVID-19/Influenza vaccine.
Please describe the specific conflict between your religious belief, observance or practice and the vaccines. In your response, please identify the specific reasons the vax requirement causes conflict.
Please provide any info that will help us determine that your belief is sincerely held. Does this belief affect any other aspect of your life? Provide details you feel are relevant.
Please identify any job accommodations(s) that you believe would resolve the conflict between your religious belief, observance, or practice. Be as specific as possible.
In regard to the last question, did you agree to testing if required?
I left it vague, hoping it wouldn't come to it and I could fight it if I needed to by saying it's invasive...
All right, yeah. My exemption letter just mentions vaccines but I sure as hell won’t be testing either.
The requirement to list an accommodation is the scariest one, because employers have the right to fire you if your religious beliefs cannot be reasonably accommodated.
And it's the most subjective. Even if you believe what the CDC says about the vaccine fully, the risk posed by a single unvaccinated individual in a room full of vaccinated individuals is insignificant. Certainly less significant than other risks a person is expected to accept by existing. So a reasonable accommodation should not be needed.
This is the type of thing that is argued and often won in decent courts. But someone needs to sue and set precedent.
This is exactly what I thought of, except I would take it a step further. I haven't even so much as been to a doctor or taken a prescription medication in my adult life.
In truth, would I go to a doctor if the need arises? Probably, but giving into that strong temptation for a wordly fix does not invalidate my religious beliefs, anymore than saying having premarital sex after being surprised makes someone less Christian.
UNBORN BABY PARTS.
Did you mention the use of fetal cells in vaccines as part of your religious belief? Because I know thats been the popular Christian reason why.
I did not because they could argue that and it's vaguely falling into that science realm. They were used in development but are not supposedly directly injected into you. I did the my body is a temple and it would offend God if I try to overwrite what has been given to me kinda thing. I found some great quotes when searching online.
Good to know. Im still not sure how they're going to "ask" for proof but thanks for sharing.
Here's what they asked me: https://conspiracies.win/p/13zg9bouue/x/c/4JFpBUu9YKO
brah.... jehova wits, accordingly to their book, cant inject anything.
shit... i dont think they can extract anything.
also, prince is the goat.
The "accommodation" is through the American's with Disabilities Act. Not a lawyer, but people have to be provided reasonable accommodations for their various conditions, such as "talk to text" for the guy who has trouble typing since his stroke.
It's still the law of the land and supercedes an EO.
Where is the EO?
So i just found out that nowhere in Bidens EO does he mandate federal contractors get shot...he directed his task force The Safer Federal Workforce task force to issue the guidance.
https://www.saferfederalworkforce.gov/downloads/Draft%20contractor%20guidance%20doc_20210922.pdf
Only after digging into their "guidance" do i find the "requirement" for contractors.
Dear Boss,
Where is the law specifiying HIPAA exemption for your VRS System?
Regards,
Employee
Best comment here. Their VRS system is blatantly illegal, and so is Biden's executive order.
Voting is rigged. No wonder they are worried about "domestic terrorists". They aren't giving free people much choice, are they?
All HIPAA ensures is that the information in their VRS system is not made public. This is likely exactly why they have a "system" in the first place, rather than just having HR keep copies on a database, to comply with HIPAA. It is also why many companies who cannot afford this type of system choose to not keep copies of your proof of vaccination, which would make them liable under HIPAA for how they store that information.
Northrop.
You work for A DS player.
They're gonna fire your ass the moment they ID you as a critical thinker.
The good news: there won't be any critical thinkers left at Northrop.
My employer handed something very similar.
Federal contractor mandate executive order, remote workers must apply for exemption by Oct 15 or are required to be vaccinated.
Some people at other companies were granted religious exemptions succesfully.
So is the USPS really exempt from the mandates?
Won't the cooties be in everyone's mail if that ts the case?
Also had several colleagues put in retirement by the Oct 15th date.
They'll lose a lot of expertise.
JOKES ON YOU.
congress automagically has 100% exemption.
Pretty similar to my employer’s email. I have until Oct 22 to request an “exception”. Got another email this morning that said “Our records indicate that you have not provided proof of being fully vaccinated.”
Sooo, I need to decide if I want to apply for an “exception” that will probably get me black flagged with who knows what agencies, or just go out in a blaze of humorous glory and tell HR, leadership, and co-workers I hate to rot in hell.
You should begin looking for a new job now, if you haven't already. Your religious exemption letter should be drafted and ready to go. You should start shopping for docs willing to write a medical exemption. Lastly, cut all unnecessary expenses. In the long run, play it out as long as possible and make them fire you.
Yeah, I’ve done all of that except look for another job. Good advice though. They are going to have to fire me.
Numerous posts all over .win about how people are getting new jobs for more money, or at least the same money.
God bless and good luck!
Yeah, I make pretty decent money so that might be tough but you never know! I am submitting my exemption next week. I’ve kept it pretty vague, I do mention Christian faith (because it is true) and the fact that I’ve never received a scheduled vaccine in my life (which is also true). I focused on keeping my body healthy, clean and staying away from chemicals, GMOs, and artificial products (all also true). Hang in there and God bless!
God bless you, and I just said an Our Father for you now.
northrup... thats gonna be a few heads.
mid/late winter, expect their next tip-toe to say...
you can start laughing when they start tip-toeing with...
This is the funniest thing because other coworkers of mine who are vaccinated laughed that this will happen like "oh you'll need proof of your 5th,6th,7th shot" yet they still willingly got their shots. Now they see me and a few others who aren't vax'd and how this could potentially ruin our lives and theyre like...yeaah im not in favor of forcing people like this. And im just like welp, too little too late morons.
the "veil of civility" is only 3 meals away from dropping like a broardway curtain, to reveal the true, tragic shakespearean play. same actors on the stage, except now theres SAVAGE BRUTALITY CAUSE ILL BE FUCKN DAMNED IF I END THIS DAY HUNGRY.
those poor fools.
those poor, suffering, afraid fools.
Wanted to update this. Got my accommodation today with no further questions other than just the "what is your belief" yada yada. This is still listed as a "temporary" thing so we'll see how long they let me work lol.
Right into the circular file!
Call their bluff! Then, if they really do fire... fire back.
I'm not laughing at your situation, I'm laughing at the Fed downsizing. Something Conservatives have been asking to do for years.
Under the guidelines of the US PATRIOT ACT, Joe Biden is a terrorist.He is using his political position to propagate coercion and fear for political and/or monetary gains.
Make your exemption request and prepare to sue
If you're not in the system by Oct 15th or in the process of claiming accommodation or getting shots, you cant come to work.
Oh im gonna make them drag me out with security when and if that time comes
It makes complete sense once you understand Agenda 21.
imma go left-field and say, the paper work you signed prob needs a 3-ring binder.