Have you ever experienced seasons? What about the horizon? What about time zones? What about tides? What about polar night or the midnight sun? Have you noticed how the peak sun angle gets lower as you go further from the equator, resulting in colder climates? Have you noticed how the angle at which the sun sets gets shallower as you get further from the equator until at the poles it's completely horizontal and it just circles around in the sky for half a year?
Yeah, all of those things are impossible on a flat earth and easily explained and predicted on a round one. Flat earth theory is living proof of the Dunning-Kruger effect, nothing more.
And that, my friend, is completely retarded. No offense but flat earthers really should have paid more attention in middle school.
Here's an experiment: take a candle and a sheet of paper. Go into a dark room, close the door and light the candle. Move the candle around above the sheet of paper so that about half of it is brightly lit and half of it is completely dark. That should be a long, fun and puzzling evening for all flat earthers.
My friend, the earth is much much bigger than the sun, it is like asking a candle to light up a piece of paper the size of the house. Also light only travel so far before it gets obscured by darkness. Place a candle on a football field during night time, how far away do you need to go before your eyes are not able to detect the light from the candle anymore?
You can still see the candle light from every point of the football field. It also never dips below ground level which in reality it clearly does every night. And while it's dipping below the horizon at one point, it's high in the sky in another. Impossible on a flat surface. I honestly don't get how grownups don't see the myriad of glaring problems with this theory.
It's hard for you to grasp these concepts because you've been indoctrinated since birth to believe the globe model.
Every single person who is into flat earth was once a hardcore Nasa dick sucking fan boy. They are not ignorant to flat or globe models. They know much more than the typical "Hurr durr you dumb flat earther" people.
Of course. When things are too far off, they become 'too small' to see.
This and a ship dipping behind the horizon aren't mutually exclusive, but they also aren't the same thing. A ship can be behind the horizon partially. Looking at it through binocs doesn't magically cause it to 'resurface', if you will. As far as I'm aware, light doesn't curve around the earth in any meaningful way. (Earth's gravity has a miniscule effect on light's trajectory)
The part about is heating and cooling the lander is what gets me. We can barely keep a semi truck's sleeper cooled through the night with current battery tech, yet they claim they cooled a lunar lander from a 260 deg F environment and heated it from a -280 deg F environment, all with batteries. Oh, and the skin was paper thin metal to save weight, no thermal insulation.
Good people asking questions makes the people in power cover in fear. Their lies might get exposed. Their solution, cover up a lie with a new lie, in the end they do not even know where the lie end and the truth begins.
True. It takes some time to swallow, for some maybe even years. I used to believe in space too, now I am thankful that God has woken me up to the truth.
We went to the moon, the moondust with micro craters from hard solar radiation ( something that can't be faked on earth due to gravity) is the kill all on this. The real and even more scary question every person who buys into the 'fake moon landing' is afraid to ask is what did we find up there that scared the powers that be so bad that after '74 the only missions to the moon were fly bys from the Air Force or the USSR until China did the rover?
They totally could today. That astronaut is a dumbass. The reason we don't go to the moon is because there's no point in doing it. The means of landing on the moo.are exactly the same as on earth, and that shit is done almost every day. And the atmosphere on earth makes landing on earth Harder.
As often stated, it would be easier to actually go to the moon, then to maintain the silence of the thousands of people who would be in on the conspiracy.
Also, if the US didn't go, does anyone really think the USSR wouldn't have called them on it? They were tracking it all too.
then to maintain the silence of the thousands of people who would be in on the conspiracy.
Are you including floor sweepers and window cleaners in the number that had to be involved ?
As you are aware it was all contracted out and compartmentalized. the guy supplying the scotch tape would probably swear on the bible there was no conspiracy but we both know he was not in the loop.
people aware of the big picture could be very manageable
Also the USSR might have been tracking something but that is not proof man landed on the moon
As often stated, it would be easier to actually go to the moon, then to maintain the silence of the thousands of people who would be in on the conspiracy.
The Manhattan Project. Tens of thousands silent for years, not a peep. Threatening people works.
Also, if the US didn't go, does anyone really think the USSR wouldn't have called them on it? They were tracking it all too.
The USSR was in a famine and traded their silence for US grain supplies.
I suggest watching a documentary like American Moon, all the counterarguments have been comprehensively addressed.
New account, here's a tip. If you bothered to learn how to use your brain you'd have realised that the pioneer plaque is a coded message that can be decoded by anyone.
It has nothing to do with being intercepted by aliens from outer space.
It is directly related to one of the 3 star sets within the NASA logo. Incase it is intercepted by extra (additional is a synonym) terrestrial intelligent life. They are calling you dumb to your face.
Do you go around telling people you evolved from primates and monkeys.
Do you try to act knowledgeable by telling people that humans can only use one percent of their brain?
As often stated, it would be easier to actually go to the moon, then to maintain the silence of the thousands of people who would be in on the conspiracy.
Also, if the US didn't go, does anyone really think the USSR wouldn't have called them on it? They were tracking it all too.
These tired old attempts to preserve the official line have been fact checked and debunked.
Don't you think the Soviet Union would have pointed out the moonlanding was bogus? They would have known better than the common American. We're they "in on it too?"
Maybe one day the general public will wake up to all the lies that have been pushed on them. but i have my doubts
It’s happening right now
Just takes time
(((They))) literally own everything, nevertheless, the Truth is coming
The truth.
There are so many.
Which do you stay mad at?
How to get everyone on that page for more than two weeks?
Do the people that caused the problem care that you know?
Do you have the sacrific it takes to account the truth?
Is it personal, or selfless?
Who’s mad?
I’m not convinced Truth requires sacrifice, or I at least don’t understand what you mean
Personal for me and by having discussions and trying to shed some Light on the Truth it becomes selfless
I feel like I missed the point of your message
I hate when these guys get so much right but then turn out to be flat earthers.
Look at the official earth curvature formula.
Does it match what you see?
have you ever seen bulidings or natural objects tilting backwards at the horizon?
do railroad tracks actually converge at a distant vanishing point or perhaps our eyes dont see 100% "reality"?
Have you ever experienced seasons? What about the horizon? What about time zones? What about tides? What about polar night or the midnight sun? Have you noticed how the peak sun angle gets lower as you go further from the equator, resulting in colder climates? Have you noticed how the angle at which the sun sets gets shallower as you get further from the equator until at the poles it's completely horizontal and it just circles around in the sky for half a year?
Yeah, all of those things are impossible on a flat earth and easily explained and predicted on a round one. Flat earth theory is living proof of the Dunning-Kruger effect, nothing more.
Here is a short animation on how the sun moves across our sky.
https://youtu.be/c9PygM_gBPQ
And that, my friend, is completely retarded. No offense but flat earthers really should have paid more attention in middle school.
Here's an experiment: take a candle and a sheet of paper. Go into a dark room, close the door and light the candle. Move the candle around above the sheet of paper so that about half of it is brightly lit and half of it is completely dark. That should be a long, fun and puzzling evening for all flat earthers.
My friend, the earth is much much bigger than the sun, it is like asking a candle to light up a piece of paper the size of the house. Also light only travel so far before it gets obscured by darkness. Place a candle on a football field during night time, how far away do you need to go before your eyes are not able to detect the light from the candle anymore?
You can still see the candle light from every point of the football field. It also never dips below ground level which in reality it clearly does every night. And while it's dipping below the horizon at one point, it's high in the sky in another. Impossible on a flat surface. I honestly don't get how grownups don't see the myriad of glaring problems with this theory.
The sun does not dip below the horizon. Get a high zoom camera and you can bring it back into view.
https://youtu.be/Mgkz2I-oqYI
It appears below the horizon as that is how perspective works.
It's hard for you to grasp these concepts because you've been indoctrinated since birth to believe the globe model.
Every single person who is into flat earth was once a hardcore Nasa dick sucking fan boy. They are not ignorant to flat or globe models. They know much more than the typical "Hurr durr you dumb flat earther" people.
Simplistic arguments with zero links. Thanks.
For those here to learn rather than shill:
Start with mark sargent subject matter experts. And eric dubay books and videos.
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHuDsXpoVz-_DkoTViaAjEtg09dCib1UU
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/bafykbzacedgqn6ttlufwl4zcqf7cztffariglxhbrqo4lpnkgiwyrrdmvbxew?filename=Eric%20Dubay%20-%20200%20Proofs%20Earth%20is%20Not%20a%20Spinning%20Ball%21%20%282017%29.epub
how far away is the horizon ?
its not a gotcha I was just wondering and you seemed quite knowledgeable.
As far as the eye or camera lens can see????
I was asking Hiromant how far away the horizom is physically because it was on his long list of things but he never mentioned the official distance.
That depends on the height of the viewpoint. For a normal person at sea level it's around 5 km if I remember correctly.
that doesnt sound right as I can see a lot further than that along the coast ( tide line to tide line on the beach )
Are you sure that number is correct ?
http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Advanced+Earth+Curvature+Calculator
Perceived distance varies depending on weather conditions. Height of viewer. This is the official formula. Plug in your own numbers.
Not impossible and all of those points are covered
You just haven’t considered it properly
Stop being condescending in your messages, genius
“If you sort points like you made into three baskets
Globe only Flat only Globe of flat model
You’ll find that nothing goes in the globe only pile” - David Weiss
https://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-calc/?d0=20&h0=5.5&unit=imperial
I asked several artists to replicate the view seen according to the official formula.
None could and one said it was the most difficult assignment he'd ever had.
It just does not match.
Don't feel bad. Took me at least a year to process this...
You can do this literally any day a ship is out at sea. From shore.
Of course. When things are too far off, they become 'too small' to see. This and a ship dipping behind the horizon aren't mutually exclusive, but they also aren't the same thing. A ship can be behind the horizon partially. Looking at it through binocs doesn't magically cause it to 'resurface', if you will. As far as I'm aware, light doesn't curve around the earth in any meaningful way. (Earth's gravity has a miniscule effect on light's trajectory)
The part about is heating and cooling the lander is what gets me. We can barely keep a semi truck's sleeper cooled through the night with current battery tech, yet they claim they cooled a lunar lander from a 260 deg F environment and heated it from a -280 deg F environment, all with batteries. Oh, and the skin was paper thin metal to save weight, no thermal insulation.
Right.
Good people asking questions makes the people in power cover in fear. Their lies might get exposed. Their solution, cover up a lie with a new lie, in the end they do not even know where the lie end and the truth begins.
Space is totally fake in general, but big lies are hard to swallow. Brainwashed ego's are the most tender things on earth.
True. It takes some time to swallow, for some maybe even years. I used to believe in space too, now I am thankful that God has woken me up to the truth.
Same here, brother. If you let the Holy Spirit guide you, it will show you the path. keep the faith, as I believe we are in the endtimes.
What positive verifiable evidence do you have that your god exists?
This video is a psyop.
They are trying to cover up the faked moon landing by associating it with the belief that the earth is flat, which is obvious bullshit.
This just in: the moon landing being fake doesn't mean the earth is flat.
We went to the moon, the moondust with micro craters from hard solar radiation ( something that can't be faked on earth due to gravity) is the kill all on this. The real and even more scary question every person who buys into the 'fake moon landing' is afraid to ask is what did we find up there that scared the powers that be so bad that after '74 the only missions to the moon were fly bys from the Air Force or the USSR until China did the rover?
Seriously?
They totally could today. That astronaut is a dumbass. The reason we don't go to the moon is because there's no point in doing it. The means of landing on the moo.are exactly the same as on earth, and that shit is done almost every day. And the atmosphere on earth makes landing on earth Harder.
Whew bud
Stick around a while and learn something
As often stated, it would be easier to actually go to the moon, then to maintain the silence of the thousands of people who would be in on the conspiracy.
Also, if the US didn't go, does anyone really think the USSR wouldn't have called them on it? They were tracking it all too.
Are you including floor sweepers and window cleaners in the number that had to be involved ?
As you are aware it was all contracted out and compartmentalized. the guy supplying the scotch tape would probably swear on the bible there was no conspiracy but we both know he was not in the loop.
people aware of the big picture could be very manageable
Also the USSR might have been tracking something but that is not proof man landed on the moon
Are you aware that space doesn't exist?
Low earth orbit. No infinite deep space.
Everything space related is a lie.
Riiight.
Ok, I’ll bite. What is up there then?
Water! Look into it.
No. I won’t ‘look into it’, because I have looked into it, quite a lot, including courses in astrophysics and time in an observatory. And it is space.
You claim it’s not there. You laughably claim it is ‘water’ (seriously?)
What is your evidence, exactly?
baseless claim, followed up by shifting burden of proof
Classic.
The Manhattan Project. Tens of thousands silent for years, not a peep. Threatening people works.
The USSR was in a famine and traded their silence for US grain supplies.
I suggest watching a documentary like American Moon, all the counterarguments have been comprehensively addressed.
New account, here's a tip. If you bothered to learn how to use your brain you'd have realised that the pioneer plaque is a coded message that can be decoded by anyone.
It has nothing to do with being intercepted by aliens from outer space.
It is directly related to one of the 3 star sets within the NASA logo. Incase it is intercepted by extra (additional is a synonym) terrestrial intelligent life. They are calling you dumb to your face.
Do you go around telling people you evolved from primates and monkeys.
Do you try to act knowledgeable by telling people that humans can only use one percent of their brain?
–JoeSchmoeKnows 1 hour ago +2 / -2
These tired old attempts to preserve the official line have been fact checked and debunked.
Nations are a fantasy too.
Look around!!!!
It proves some people will believe anything!!!!
The narrator sounds like he'd have a major life breakdown if he were to squash an insect with his heel.
This is what someone who has never lifted weights in their entire life sounds like.
Don't be this "guy".
Sad.
Don't you think the Soviet Union would have pointed out the moonlanding was bogus? They would have known better than the common American. We're they "in on it too?"
Try, think about it.