And you think there is some sort of live-viewing super-microscope (that doesn't exist) and a nano-sized arm that can take out a single SARS-Cov-2 virus and then put it in a clean non-vero cell culture,
Where did I said that? So, you think out something I never stated, and lying now attributing that nonsence to me. OK. I didn't expect anything else from you.
You could easily find out the methods of real virus isolation in numerous papers. If you are not aware of that papers. you are dumb. If you aware, you are intentionally lying.
50 years ago there was no any problems in isolation and purification of influenza virus samples. But in 2020 suddenly, just at the time of coronahoax, medics completely forgot how to do things they do over 50 years without any problem.
So, you could continue to lie, but that would not make your "isolation" valid. This only make you fucking liar.
Your and kaufman criteria for isolation is impossible and stupid.
Regardless of who am I, and who kaufman is, isolation in science means "separation of object of interest from everything else". Every single scientist think so. Every scientist want to get pure sample of object they study. Get only neutrinos to prove that they and only they cause some effect, Get pure newly synthesized substance to study it's properties. Get pure sample of million year old ice to study the real wheather of the past. Get signal free from any noise to study some space object. Etc. You will never find a scientist who don't try hard to get object of study as pure as possible. And you definitely will not find a scientist who will lie that "we don't want to really isolate smth. to study it"
Ones, who think other way is not a scientists at all. They are fucking frauds.
No, you have defined your own way of "how isolation" should be done.
The rest of the people doing actual virology in 2020 actually disagree.
Here's an idea.
You think it is so easy:
buy up some lab time
isolate SARS-CoV-2
culture it
inject it into test animals
watch animals die and get sick
do a full autopsy on the animals
isolate the virus from the animals
compare it to the original isolate
Koch's postulates proven , bingo! Then you'll be happy.
Because you won't believe it otherwise, even though it has (mostly) already been done (already linked to the full paper above, which you didn't even fucking bother reading, so why the fucks should I waste my time feeding you info?).
Nobody will do it for you using your arbitrarily chosen criteria . You need to do it yourself. Science owes you shit.
I'm happy enough with the current results as they stand. Hell, I personally talk to an actual experimental scientist who types the full genome sars-cov-2 viruses using non-PCR methods.
He has 20+ years of experience doing that and all forms of DNA/RNA analysis in an actual lab, his hands dirty, unlike Kaufman, who doesn't even know what NGS is.
I take his word over "isolated" samples over Kaufman's.
No, you have defined your own way of "how isolation" should be done.
You are lying. It's not my own way. It is a way isolation defined by any scientist and engineer. Every electric thing you have, from toster to smarphone have an isolation to isolate electric currents from each other. Your building isolate you from outside wheather and pipes isolate water from flooding your home. Roof with holes, leaky pipes and soup from dead monkey cells is not an isolation. You know it, but still continue to lie.
The rest of the people doing actual virology in 2020 actually disagree.
Very nice details. :) "people doing virology in 2020" invented new definition of the term "isolation" that will fit their intentions. Do you understand that your mindless propaganda just show your intentional shillng to coronahoaxers?
Nobody will do it for you using your arbitrarily chosen criteria
You are lying. It is not my criteria. It is the meaning of term "isolation" in any real science. If your "science" suddenly invent and push another meaning of well-defined term, exactly at the time of fraud, that means that your "science" is fraud.
He has 20+ years of experience doing that and all forms of DNA/RNA analysis in an actual lab
You bring your silly "reference to unnamed authoity" propaganda method to the wrong place. This is not a Facebook or Twitter sewage pit where it works.
You are free to believe what you want.
Science is not about belief. It is about proof. And you can't prove that SARS-CoV-2 exists without isolated sample. You can't prove your tests detects it without isolated sample. You can't prove that SARS-CoV-2 is an only reason of COVID-19 ilness without pure isolated sample of that virus. You failed with science at the very beginning. The only thing you have is blind belief to all that frauds.
You could repeat your lie about "special meaning of the term isolation for 2020 virologists" endlessly, but that cost absolutely nothing here.
Actually through experimentation, hypothesis formation, data gathering, theory making and finally falsification, but yeah, I agree. In the end, there is no proof, just unfalsified theories that have stood the test of time (so far).
I gave you 17 peer-reviewed, experimental results.
You gave me your opinion, no references, no experimental results, nothing else. Just your definition of "isolation"; which the rest of the people doing isolation in biology actually disagree on.
What experimental results you need to understand that the well-defined scientific term "isolation" is not about dancing around the dirty soup from dead monkey kidney cells remains, antibiotics, fungicides and hell knows what else?
Do you ever read or write any scientific papers aside from that medical madness? Do you ever conduct any scientific research to find the cause of some effect or malfunction? If you do, you will never name that crap from your "17 peer-reviewed papers" as "isolation". Ever.
Where did I said that? So, you think out something I never stated, and lying now attributing that nonsence to me. OK. I didn't expect anything else from you.
You could easily find out the methods of real virus isolation in numerous papers. If you are not aware of that papers. you are dumb. If you aware, you are intentionally lying.
Here is something to start, if you are not aware: https://sci-hub.tf/10.1016/0003-2697(85)90103-4 https://sci-hub.tf/10.1007/BF01241916
50 years ago there was no any problems in isolation and purification of influenza virus samples. But in 2020 suddenly, just at the time of coronahoax, medics completely forgot how to do things they do over 50 years without any problem.
So, you could continue to lie, but that would not make your "isolation" valid. This only make you fucking liar.
Regardless of who am I, and who kaufman is, isolation in science means "separation of object of interest from everything else". Every single scientist think so. Every scientist want to get pure sample of object they study. Get only neutrinos to prove that they and only they cause some effect, Get pure newly synthesized substance to study it's properties. Get pure sample of million year old ice to study the real wheather of the past. Get signal free from any noise to study some space object. Etc. You will never find a scientist who don't try hard to get object of study as pure as possible. And you definitely will not find a scientist who will lie that "we don't want to really isolate smth. to study it"
Ones, who think other way is not a scientists at all. They are fucking frauds.
No, you have defined your own way of "how isolation" should be done.
The rest of the people doing actual virology in 2020 actually disagree.
Here's an idea.
You think it is so easy:
Koch's postulates proven , bingo! Then you'll be happy.
Because you won't believe it otherwise, even though it has (mostly) already been done (already linked to the full paper above, which you didn't even fucking bother reading, so why the fucks should I waste my time feeding you info?).
Nobody will do it for you using your arbitrarily chosen criteria . You need to do it yourself. Science owes you shit.
I'm happy enough with the current results as they stand. Hell, I personally talk to an actual experimental scientist who types the full genome sars-cov-2 viruses using non-PCR methods.
He has 20+ years of experience doing that and all forms of DNA/RNA analysis in an actual lab, his hands dirty, unlike Kaufman, who doesn't even know what NGS is.
I take his word over "isolated" samples over Kaufman's.
You are free to believe what you want.
You are lying. It's not my own way. It is a way isolation defined by any scientist and engineer. Every electric thing you have, from toster to smarphone have an isolation to isolate electric currents from each other. Your building isolate you from outside wheather and pipes isolate water from flooding your home. Roof with holes, leaky pipes and soup from dead monkey cells is not an isolation. You know it, but still continue to lie.
Very nice details. :) "people doing virology in 2020" invented new definition of the term "isolation" that will fit their intentions. Do you understand that your mindless propaganda just show your intentional shillng to coronahoaxers?
You are lying. It is not my criteria. It is the meaning of term "isolation" in any real science. If your "science" suddenly invent and push another meaning of well-defined term, exactly at the time of fraud, that means that your "science" is fraud.
You bring your silly "reference to unnamed authoity" propaganda method to the wrong place. This is not a Facebook or Twitter sewage pit where it works.
Science is not about belief. It is about proof. And you can't prove that SARS-CoV-2 exists without isolated sample. You can't prove your tests detects it without isolated sample. You can't prove that SARS-CoV-2 is an only reason of COVID-19 ilness without pure isolated sample of that virus. You failed with science at the very beginning. The only thing you have is blind belief to all that frauds.
You could repeat your lie about "special meaning of the term isolation for 2020 virologists" endlessly, but that cost absolutely nothing here.
Actually through experimentation, hypothesis formation, data gathering, theory making and finally falsification, but yeah, I agree. In the end, there is no proof, just unfalsified theories that have stood the test of time (so far).
I gave you 17 peer-reviewed, experimental results.
You gave me your opinion, no references, no experimental results, nothing else. Just your definition of "isolation"; which the rest of the people doing isolation in biology actually disagree on.
I'll leave it that.
What experimental results you need to understand that the well-defined scientific term "isolation" is not about dancing around the dirty soup from dead monkey kidney cells remains, antibiotics, fungicides and hell knows what else?
Do you ever read or write any scientific papers aside from that medical madness? Do you ever conduct any scientific research to find the cause of some effect or malfunction? If you do, you will never name that crap from your "17 peer-reviewed papers" as "isolation". Ever.
So, I'll leave it too.