Fake or not - that's IRRELEVANT when we see that similar things happen. Duck-typing isn't wonderful,but it have RESULTS.
There is no need to have chip in the "vaccine" to see something about it is obviously not right and it stinks.
"Protocols of Elders of Zion" are too "obviously fake" but most of its postulates look like being executed...
Obviously - when too much coincidences happen you shall consider gray's law instead of stupid hanlon razor and believe there might be already some conspiracy
"Nationaler Sozialismus" ("National Socialism") has been referred to in German-speaking countries since about 1860 compounds of nationalist and socialist ideas.
We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view.
Christian/normies will be disillusioned and abandon their beliefs because they aren't capable of tolerating hardship/conflict
True Christians know that suffering brings you closer to God, so all this will do is expose the fake ones who are already worshiping Lucifer but don't know it.
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. - Romans 5:1-5
But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead. - Phillipians 3:7-11
Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God. - 1 Peter 4:1-2
Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.
But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.
Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator. - 1 Peter 4:1-19
Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;
And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God.
For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
Having the same conflict which ye saw in me, and now hear to be in me. - Phillipians 1:27-30
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. - John 16:33
James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing. - James 1:1-4
Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. - Matthew 5:10-12
From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? - Matthew 16:21-26
Much of it is also implicit, like when Jesus says that you are blessed if you are hungry, poor, or hated, because your reward in heaven will be great. Suffering is what allows you to appreciate the things of God. That's not to say that you should pursue suffering, just not resent it if it happens. If you are rich or well fed, it is tempting to think all your needs are met, and that you don't need God. When you are suffering though, God is all you have to rely on. The world and God are at odds, so it stands to reason that if you want to know God you have to reject the things of this world, but for that you will be hated and punished by the world. If you are rewarded by the world, it is likely because you have rejected the things of God, and will be rejected by him in the end. Anyway, you don't have to agree, I'm just putting some thoughts out there. And I'm not a Jesuit. I don't follow any denomination.
Considering the majority of Christians buy into the pretrib rapture (which was a subversion from the start and funded by very questionable sources) most believe that they will never have any real hardship on earth they'll be beamed up before things really get bad. So when things really get bad a lot will abandon the faith or embrace the heresies demanded by the left and most that hold onto the overall ideas found in dispensationalism will likely be able to accept that the rapture idea was a bit off but the overall teachings of dispensationalism like the seperate coming of a special Jewish messiah (A.K.A Lucifer) to set up the jews dominion over the earth would be readily embraced by them. Once I saw the origins of dispensationalism I realized satanist subversions started very early in the west and the crop is about ready to harvest it seems.
Amillinial here who doesn't believe the Bible teaches a rapture or "tribulation" as a set period of time, so I have no dog in this fight, but you're badly misrepresenting their position.
I have to listen to dispensationalists teachers go on and on about the rapture and how inconceivable it would be that they would have to go through hardship practically everyday so I know how they feel about persecution. Fact is that it was funded heavily by Jews and a teaching in dispensationalism is the two kingdoms idea that Christians get a kingdom in heaven that they are raptured to and the Jews remain but are converted by the arrival of a sort of seconf messiah that establishes a Jewish kingdom on Earth that'll last for eternity.
I have read a lot of dispensational writings and heard a lot and if that's what they think should happen in the future than all the false converts who only wanted to escape a hard life will become apostates and the dispensationalist zealots will praise the antichrist unknowingly or reject dispensationalism as having not been an accurate reading of scripture.
If you have proof that this is not what dispensationalist teach that give it but I've read enough and heard enough to know it's just been another in a long line of heresies designed to aid the Jews in their satanic practices.
Anyone who believes that has ignored the teaching of our Lord. In fact, the expectation of suffering is why I'm amillenial. I find that the Bible teaches all believers to expect to suffer for their faith. If you're not suffering with some regularity, you need to make sure you're actually walking the difficult path. There's no need for special persecution and therefore I view those verses as thematic rather than specific. (There are other reasons, too)
That said, many in my denomination are pretrib. I don't think I've ever heard them say they believe that because they don't think God would allow them to be persecuted. It's usually because they find that as the best interpretation of what the Bible says. I've never heard of a Jewish eternal Earthly kingdom from any dispensationalists I know. Usually I hear that people believe Jews will come to faith en masse shortly before the end. My denomination is extremely Sola Scriptura and even commentaries are discouraged (I don't share that view) so I doubt they're being influenced by Jews or whatever.
Anyway, I don't doubt you're dealing with people who are being lead astray and pray you stay strong to guide them to the truth. Just wanted to weigh in that no all pretrib or dispensationalists believe what you wrote.
I know that most don't but these are old ideas from around it's founding and there's people I know teaching this sort of stuff. My point is that the idea of dispensationalism was made originally to promote Jews and some of these old ideas that are still around are way too similar to the NWO agenda being said to be a good thing to be coincidence. Personally I think that the people that are clearly true believers will probably move away from dispensationalism or at least the idea that the rapture is definitely this generation when it becomes clear that the rapture isn't coming but there's also a lot of regular church goers and prophecy fans that just like hearing what makes them feel good and that's where the apostates will come from.
atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.
a) what does that inspire one to do? Having faith.
b) athe-ISM...that's a belief system; defined by reasoning against those who believe, so both sides are defined by consent to suggested belief.
c) who has the means to propagate faith to the many, and who has the means to brand and demonize the many who don't consent to the former suggested faith? Could it be the same few?
Who suggested abortion? Who branded pro-choice? Who branded pro-life? Who benefits from pro-choice versus pro-life conflicts of reason; while abortion is ongoing for half a century? Who would trick the comprehension of the many to ignore that within reality "choice equals life", while utilizing such an obvious rhetorical spell to brand both sides of a conflict of reason; causes by the suggestion of abortion?
the pure doctrine of Lucifer
The light-bringer aka motion causing momentum; causing friction between velocity and resistance; causing vibration; resonance; form...and light.
Albert Pike to Mazzini, August 15, 1871: Three World Wars?
(Or, how Michael Haupt said, that William Guy Carr said, that Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile said, that The Cause of World Unrest said, that the confessed hoaxer Gabriel Jogand-Pagès aka Dr. Bataille aka Leo Taxil said about Albert Pike and Giuseppe Mazzini in Le diable au XIXe siècle, v. II, 1892-1894, p. 605 (but actually pp. 594-606). Got it?)
Fake or not - that's IRRELEVANT when we see that similar things happen. Duck-typing isn't wonderful,but it have RESULTS.
There is no need to have chip in the "vaccine" to see something about it is obviously not right and it stinks.
"Protocols of Elders of Zion" are too "obviously fake" but most of its postulates look like being executed...
Obviously - when too much coincidences happen you shall consider gray's law instead of stupid hanlon razor and believe there might be already some conspiracy
Wrong, it's a "nickname" of Nationalsozialismus
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalsozialismus
True Christians know that suffering brings you closer to God, so all this will do is expose the fake ones who are already worshiping Lucifer but don't know it.
Read the Bible sometime.
It's all over the Bible.
Much of it is also implicit, like when Jesus says that you are blessed if you are hungry, poor, or hated, because your reward in heaven will be great. Suffering is what allows you to appreciate the things of God. That's not to say that you should pursue suffering, just not resent it if it happens. If you are rich or well fed, it is tempting to think all your needs are met, and that you don't need God. When you are suffering though, God is all you have to rely on. The world and God are at odds, so it stands to reason that if you want to know God you have to reject the things of this world, but for that you will be hated and punished by the world. If you are rewarded by the world, it is likely because you have rejected the things of God, and will be rejected by him in the end. Anyway, you don't have to agree, I'm just putting some thoughts out there. And I'm not a Jesuit. I don't follow any denomination.
Have you met the leftist "Christians" ???
Considering the majority of Christians buy into the pretrib rapture (which was a subversion from the start and funded by very questionable sources) most believe that they will never have any real hardship on earth they'll be beamed up before things really get bad. So when things really get bad a lot will abandon the faith or embrace the heresies demanded by the left and most that hold onto the overall ideas found in dispensationalism will likely be able to accept that the rapture idea was a bit off but the overall teachings of dispensationalism like the seperate coming of a special Jewish messiah (A.K.A Lucifer) to set up the jews dominion over the earth would be readily embraced by them. Once I saw the origins of dispensationalism I realized satanist subversions started very early in the west and the crop is about ready to harvest it seems.
Amillinial here who doesn't believe the Bible teaches a rapture or "tribulation" as a set period of time, so I have no dog in this fight, but you're badly misrepresenting their position.
I have to listen to dispensationalists teachers go on and on about the rapture and how inconceivable it would be that they would have to go through hardship practically everyday so I know how they feel about persecution. Fact is that it was funded heavily by Jews and a teaching in dispensationalism is the two kingdoms idea that Christians get a kingdom in heaven that they are raptured to and the Jews remain but are converted by the arrival of a sort of seconf messiah that establishes a Jewish kingdom on Earth that'll last for eternity.
I have read a lot of dispensational writings and heard a lot and if that's what they think should happen in the future than all the false converts who only wanted to escape a hard life will become apostates and the dispensationalist zealots will praise the antichrist unknowingly or reject dispensationalism as having not been an accurate reading of scripture.
If you have proof that this is not what dispensationalist teach that give it but I've read enough and heard enough to know it's just been another in a long line of heresies designed to aid the Jews in their satanic practices.
Anyone who believes that has ignored the teaching of our Lord. In fact, the expectation of suffering is why I'm amillenial. I find that the Bible teaches all believers to expect to suffer for their faith. If you're not suffering with some regularity, you need to make sure you're actually walking the difficult path. There's no need for special persecution and therefore I view those verses as thematic rather than specific. (There are other reasons, too)
That said, many in my denomination are pretrib. I don't think I've ever heard them say they believe that because they don't think God would allow them to be persecuted. It's usually because they find that as the best interpretation of what the Bible says. I've never heard of a Jewish eternal Earthly kingdom from any dispensationalists I know. Usually I hear that people believe Jews will come to faith en masse shortly before the end. My denomination is extremely Sola Scriptura and even commentaries are discouraged (I don't share that view) so I doubt they're being influenced by Jews or whatever.
Anyway, I don't doubt you're dealing with people who are being lead astray and pray you stay strong to guide them to the truth. Just wanted to weigh in that no all pretrib or dispensationalists believe what you wrote.
I know that most don't but these are old ideas from around it's founding and there's people I know teaching this sort of stuff. My point is that the idea of dispensationalism was made originally to promote Jews and some of these old ideas that are still around are way too similar to the NWO agenda being said to be a good thing to be coincidence. Personally I think that the people that are clearly true believers will probably move away from dispensationalism or at least the idea that the rapture is definitely this generation when it becomes clear that the rapture isn't coming but there's also a lot of regular church goers and prophecy fans that just like hearing what makes them feel good and that's where the apostates will come from.
a) what does that inspire one to do? Having faith.
b) athe-ISM...that's a belief system; defined by reasoning against those who believe, so both sides are defined by consent to suggested belief.
c) who has the means to propagate faith to the many, and who has the means to brand and demonize the many who don't consent to the former suggested faith? Could it be the same few?
Who suggested abortion? Who branded pro-choice? Who branded pro-life? Who benefits from pro-choice versus pro-life conflicts of reason; while abortion is ongoing for half a century? Who would trick the comprehension of the many to ignore that within reality "choice equals life", while utilizing such an obvious rhetorical spell to brand both sides of a conflict of reason; causes by the suggestion of abortion?
The light-bringer aka motion causing momentum; causing friction between velocity and resistance; causing vibration; resonance; form...and light.
https://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2015/01/10/albert-pike-to-mazzini-august-15-1871-three-world-wars/
Albert Pike to Mazzini, August 15, 1871: Three World Wars?
(Or, how Michael Haupt said, that William Guy Carr said, that Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile said, that The Cause of World Unrest said, that the confessed hoaxer Gabriel Jogand-Pagès aka Dr. Bataille aka Leo Taxil said about Albert Pike and Giuseppe Mazzini in Le diable au XIXe siècle, v. II, 1892-1894, p. 605 (but actually pp. 594-606). Got it?)
Seems like the exact reaction they are looking for.
Exactly, lmao.
YES! lmao, sounds counter intuitive but I think that's the best bet. Not only to "ignote it" but to not fall into their game.