I have to listen to dispensationalists teachers go on and on about the rapture and how inconceivable it would be that they would have to go through hardship practically everyday so I know how they feel about persecution. Fact is that it was funded heavily by Jews and a teaching in dispensationalism is the two kingdoms idea that Christians get a kingdom in heaven that they are raptured to and the Jews remain but are converted by the arrival of a sort of seconf messiah that establishes a Jewish kingdom on Earth that'll last for eternity.
I have read a lot of dispensational writings and heard a lot and if that's what they think should happen in the future than all the false converts who only wanted to escape a hard life will become apostates and the dispensationalist zealots will praise the antichrist unknowingly or reject dispensationalism as having not been an accurate reading of scripture.
If you have proof that this is not what dispensationalist teach that give it but I've read enough and heard enough to know it's just been another in a long line of heresies designed to aid the Jews in their satanic practices.
Anyone who believes that has ignored the teaching of our Lord. In fact, the expectation of suffering is why I'm amillenial. I find that the Bible teaches all believers to expect to suffer for their faith. If you're not suffering with some regularity, you need to make sure you're actually walking the difficult path. There's no need for special persecution and therefore I view those verses as thematic rather than specific. (There are other reasons, too)
That said, many in my denomination are pretrib. I don't think I've ever heard them say they believe that because they don't think God would allow them to be persecuted. It's usually because they find that as the best interpretation of what the Bible says. I've never heard of a Jewish eternal Earthly kingdom from any dispensationalists I know. Usually I hear that people believe Jews will come to faith en masse shortly before the end. My denomination is extremely Sola Scriptura and even commentaries are discouraged (I don't share that view) so I doubt they're being influenced by Jews or whatever.
Anyway, I don't doubt you're dealing with people who are being lead astray and pray you stay strong to guide them to the truth. Just wanted to weigh in that no all pretrib or dispensationalists believe what you wrote.
I know that most don't but these are old ideas from around it's founding and there's people I know teaching this sort of stuff. My point is that the idea of dispensationalism was made originally to promote Jews and some of these old ideas that are still around are way too similar to the NWO agenda being said to be a good thing to be coincidence. Personally I think that the people that are clearly true believers will probably move away from dispensationalism or at least the idea that the rapture is definitely this generation when it becomes clear that the rapture isn't coming but there's also a lot of regular church goers and prophecy fans that just like hearing what makes them feel good and that's where the apostates will come from.
I have to listen to dispensationalists teachers go on and on about the rapture and how inconceivable it would be that they would have to go through hardship practically everyday so I know how they feel about persecution. Fact is that it was funded heavily by Jews and a teaching in dispensationalism is the two kingdoms idea that Christians get a kingdom in heaven that they are raptured to and the Jews remain but are converted by the arrival of a sort of seconf messiah that establishes a Jewish kingdom on Earth that'll last for eternity.
I have read a lot of dispensational writings and heard a lot and if that's what they think should happen in the future than all the false converts who only wanted to escape a hard life will become apostates and the dispensationalist zealots will praise the antichrist unknowingly or reject dispensationalism as having not been an accurate reading of scripture.
If you have proof that this is not what dispensationalist teach that give it but I've read enough and heard enough to know it's just been another in a long line of heresies designed to aid the Jews in their satanic practices.
Anyone who believes that has ignored the teaching of our Lord. In fact, the expectation of suffering is why I'm amillenial. I find that the Bible teaches all believers to expect to suffer for their faith. If you're not suffering with some regularity, you need to make sure you're actually walking the difficult path. There's no need for special persecution and therefore I view those verses as thematic rather than specific. (There are other reasons, too)
That said, many in my denomination are pretrib. I don't think I've ever heard them say they believe that because they don't think God would allow them to be persecuted. It's usually because they find that as the best interpretation of what the Bible says. I've never heard of a Jewish eternal Earthly kingdom from any dispensationalists I know. Usually I hear that people believe Jews will come to faith en masse shortly before the end. My denomination is extremely Sola Scriptura and even commentaries are discouraged (I don't share that view) so I doubt they're being influenced by Jews or whatever.
Anyway, I don't doubt you're dealing with people who are being lead astray and pray you stay strong to guide them to the truth. Just wanted to weigh in that no all pretrib or dispensationalists believe what you wrote.
I know that most don't but these are old ideas from around it's founding and there's people I know teaching this sort of stuff. My point is that the idea of dispensationalism was made originally to promote Jews and some of these old ideas that are still around are way too similar to the NWO agenda being said to be a good thing to be coincidence. Personally I think that the people that are clearly true believers will probably move away from dispensationalism or at least the idea that the rapture is definitely this generation when it becomes clear that the rapture isn't coming but there's also a lot of regular church goers and prophecy fans that just like hearing what makes them feel good and that's where the apostates will come from.