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The moon's effects on our oceans and seas tides
posted 4 years ago by Stko 4 years ago by Stko +11 / -4

We are told that we only have tides in the oceans and seas because of the moon so why do we only see the moon once a day but we have two tides?

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– Graphenium 9 points 4 years ago +11 / -2

The second tide is caused by yo momma rolling over to reach the cheesy potatoes she fell asleep eating

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– Stko [S] -5 points 4 years ago +1 / -6

She died dude. Hope you get to understand how that fills.

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– Stko [S] -5 points 4 years ago +1 / -6

Wasn't a joke. Covid

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– Junionthepipeline 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Oh well.

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– alien_observer 6 points 4 years ago +8 / -2

checkmate roundtards

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– Stko [S] 0 points 4 years ago +2 / -2

It's only round after nasa told us. I didn't even link to 2 tbh. Just had a random thought. But yep 1sst time iv herd roundtards. I like it

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– DavidColeIntrepid -3 points 4 years ago +0 / -3

Post anything that even remotely suggests the earth is flat, shill faggot.

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– alien_observer 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

lmao I was kidding

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– WindyJibbz 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Magnetics. The key to this world.

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– Stko [S] 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

Yep but water isn't metal

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– Stko [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Tesla. I take it you mean Elon mush the tesla owner and I can tell you he was on the Jo rogan. .......

Ohhhhhhhjjj Nikola Tesla. He had one of the best brains ever. With out him we would be a different planet. Guys go read up on him

Tesla had the free energy. All worked out it was probably solar power or some sort of magnetic force. That's why most have never her of him

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– Stko [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I will read up on it I do know they had water shoots. How big are they compared to a food ball pitch I wonder?

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– Gnometard 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

The moon is pulling on the opposite side of the earth, causing that tide.

Skepticism is great, but you gotta think just a little bit

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– AK_Tree_Frog 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The tides are caused by a wave that is caused by the moons orbit causing shifts in its relative gravitational intensity ( newtonian inverse square law) , creating a sinusoidal wave in the earths oceans. Because the moon orbits the earth in about 24 hrs, the moon is directly overhead and directly under us in 12 hr ( aprx) intervals. The moon is in line with either horizon at 12 hr (aprx) intervals as well. Thus the moon is at a relative apogee/ perogee relative to the surface of the sea in 6 hr intervals, each associated with a high/ low. An idealized example- at 12 noon moon is overhead- high tide. At 6pm moon is on western horizon ( low tide) at midnight it below- high tide, at 6 am at eastern horizon ( low tide) and at noon its high tide again. Thus two highs and two lows in a 24 hr period.

Due to eliptical orbits and the orbital period being not exactly 24 hrs the tide time shifts with the day. Additionally the sun has an influece on tide as well- thus the amplitude of the tide is variable and correlated with moon phase ( spring vs neap tides). Furthermore, underwater topography can have a profound complicating effect, especially due to the venturi effect.

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– Surfsup -2 points 4 years ago +2 / -4

Yea, the moon's gravity pulls on our oceans and moves them (quadrillion tons of water), yet clouds and atmospheric vapor doesn't get pulled into space. Man people can't think. Thanks for the explanation though....lol

Add to that the emptiness of space, with zero pressure, how the atmosphere of the Earth isn't stripped away in a nano-second.

And gravity, because we live on a molton ball of iron, yet jupiter and saturn have gravity but are gas giants. Let me repeat....GAS giants. No iron ball.

Yea, and comets are broken up by the sun's radiation melting their outer shell and spewing debris making a comet "tail" but saturn and jupiter don't have tails and are 100% gas (with no iron ball)...

And that sun produces radiation at such a high level that our boys rode in an aluminum foil cage and didn't get cooked for 6days, nor did their cage explode from the pressure difference of zero atmospheric pressure in space, cuz, you know aluminum is some strong stuff.

But yea, the van allen belt is radiation and temperatures are up to 5000 degrees but you know that aluminum foil reflects that heat and it's all good.

LOL

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– MustafaJones 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

The reason the atmosphere doesn’t fly off into space is because of gravity, which isn’t caused by the metal in the core of the earth but by mass. The more massive something is the more gravitational pull it has. Keep in mind the sun technically has to solid core but the fact that it’s something like 90% of the solar systems total mass keeps everything in orbit. Also solar radiation isn’t that bad when you consider the sheer distance between earth and the sun, sure you’d get cooked if you went to mercury but the moon? Not so much, the temps only go up to a couple hundred degrees, and can be compensated for by cooling systems. As for the integrity of aluminum, yeah it’s pretty strong, everything from submarines to fighter jets have been made from the stuff, hell F-22s are partly plastic. Also the Apollo capsule was only pressurized up to an equivalent altitude of 20,000ft so the designers did actually have a concern but it was later found to be unfounded. I don’t know where you are getting the 5000 degrees from as I don’t think there is anywhere in either earth or lunar space where temps get that high.

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– AK_Tree_Frog 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

Jupiter and the gas giants have solid cores, larger than all of earth. That provide the dense mass needed to keep their gas from floating away. The sun is also mostly gas, and by your reasoning then should also dissipate into space.

Also the van allen/ ionosphere does a hell of allot to keep out atmosphere put.

The reason why the atmosphere ( which do have a tide) isnt as effected by tides as much as the oceans is the fact that gravitational pull is proportional to the masses involved. Therefore the earth oceans have a stronger gravitational pull than the atmosphere. Also due to inverse square law. As the distance between two gravitatioal bodies increse the gravitational force decreases exponentially. So that means that the earths gravitational pull on the atmosphere, oaceans and us is way higer than that of the sun, even though the sun is way bigger, and why we all dont float away.

The tides are a wave. The oceans are not being pulled straigt up and down, they are more sloshing back and forth in rythem with the sun and moons gravitaional influence. Almost like how if you put a glass of water on a table and than tilt the table back and forth sligtly, it would begin to slosh back and forth creating a wave.

Similarly as the reltive strength of the moon and suns gravitational pull rythmically ocillates with the elipical orbit of the moon and rotation of the earth, ( inverse sqare law) it creates just enough force to cause the oceans to slosh a tiny bit - the tides. If this was not true than why are tidal predictions perfecly accurate? Im a captain and use them daily wit zero discrepancy.

Also the tide is highly influenced by ocean topography. In the open ocean the tidal range only a few inches. It is only due to the venturi effect ( the velocity of a fluid increases as it flows through a constriction) that they become pronounced near shore. Thats why the tides in a fjord can be 15 ft + and only a couple feet on a broad open coast.

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– Usernames1 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

If you look up Tidal nodes and/or Amphidromic points, it's hard to believe the moon has anything to do with the tides.

Even a google image search will show it.

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– Stko [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Link to the images please. Isn't Google earth fake.?

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– Usernames1 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

google.com

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– Stko [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Why is the tide higher on the full moon. This makes no sense at all.

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– Stko [S] 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

Oh shit I didn't get the gravity from the moon link . Its all bs

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– Ep0ch 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

We see the moon allday

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– Stko [S] 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

My dad was on the video call to his brother UK and Australia and the sun was directly above then both. Its very odd to be.

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– Ep0ch 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

You can see the moon in daytime. It is in the sky all day. Except for when there is no moon, in the cycles of waining and waxing.

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– AK_Tree_Frog 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

how do you explain how we can use math derived from newtonian physics ( the moon) predict tides with stunning absolute precsion accuracy? Why does the tide occur when there is no wind?

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– AK_Tree_Frog 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Not true. Ever heard of the doldrums? Having spent a great deal of time at sea, there are times when there is zero wind locally, sometimes for days on end. While there is always wind somewhere, it is way to variable to predict tides. If its the wind, why do lunar/ gravitational tide charts get it 100 percent accurate, even months/ years/ decades in advance.

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– AK_Tree_Frog 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

Still no explaination for why newtonian physics predict tides with perfect accuracy. Why do they not use wind to predict tides? Why is moon phase exactly correlated with tide amplitude if not for newtonian physics? If you can demonstrate several examples of using wind to predict a tide time and range, many months in advance, it would help. I looked and cant find a single example. I use tide tables daily, and they are NEVER wrong, even slightly. They are not calculated based on wind and can predict years into the future. Why is that?

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– Stko [S] -3 points 4 years ago +1 / -4

It's what I worked out someone would say tbh. It's total bs. If we started to have 3 tor 1 a day. There make up more lies

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– AK_Tree_Frog 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I am a professional mariner who studies and experienced the tides on a daily basis. You can litterally see the moon in different positions and see the tidal variation. It is not bullshit. If it was we wouldt be able to calculate tide tables to a fraction of a second. Tidal forecasts are wildly accurate because the science and math are so inbelivably sound. Hell the ancient greeks even knew the math and created the Antikatheria Mechanism.

What is your alternate therory? Show me how it can be used to predict the timing and amplitude of tides with milisecond accuracy. And than trust your life on the sea to it.

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– Graphenium 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

There’s a lot of shills here who’s sole purpose is to make this an unappealing place to discuss reality. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge

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– Stko [S] -2 points 4 years ago +1 / -3

You can predict the ties by noting donw the times over a month year and work out what's coming. It's easy.
Your theory doesn't make any sense since you have to guess where the moon will be in a years time to predict the tides.

Also you can predict the moons position by knowing the tides : 100% correct.

Are you saying the moon has a gravity pill? Gravity is a thing that's thought its not real its just a Theory and has never been proven. Never in fact it kind of has been disproven in many tests.

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– AK_Tree_Frog 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Is not as easy as that, tide times and amplituded vary wildly from year to year for any given date. This is due to the fact that orbits are elliptical and the earths spin is at a tilt and also wobbles. So exact relative position is rarely repeated and impossible to predict- without newtonian physics. And yes , we can predict where the moon will be for thousands of years into the future, down to the millimeter, using basic newtonian physics.

Is our understanding of gravity perfect? No. Gravitational therories break down at the quantumn scale, this is true. However, observational data shows that the newtonian model is highly accurate at our scale. This is why we have sattelites, areoplanes, raines and cars. Because the math derived from newtons laws predicts the motion of objects so well, we can use them to predicably engineer the tech we use daily. If they didnt work, how come planes fly, satellites can be launched into orbit, and why tide tables are perfectly accurate?

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– DavidColeIntrepid -1 points 4 years ago +1 / -2

You can predict the ties by noting donw the times over a month year and work out what's coming. It's easy.

Because of lunar calendars, dumbass.

Your theory doesn't make any sense since you have to guess where the moon will be in a years time to predict the tides.

We're not "guessing" when the next January will be, dumbass. Calendars. They exist. Go fuck yourself you shill punk.

Never in fact it kind of has been disproven in many tests.

You are a child molester. "Disprove" it.

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