They talk about governments, etc. getting new technology from these other beings. Maybe they are just possessing a patent clerk in another dimension and taking notes...
You really can't explain a DMT trip. It is an experience that is hard to put into words.
Also there are few different ways to take dmt. You ingest it with an oral MOAI and as long as you take enough you will trip for 18-24 hours. You can smoke it, which is what most people try. You trip just as strong as you do when you ingest it but it only last about 15 mins and it is hard to comprehend. Then you can dab it which is just like smoking it but even more intense and incomprehensible. I forgot the newest popular method is vape cartridges which is essentially a low powered dab.
So you can either eat it or smoke it and how much you take and how you take it will effect the intensity. You won't even talk to any beings unless you take a proper amount. Once you "leave your body" so to speak it isn't like you understand it to be. You loose all sense of yourself or being.
Heating up a hot "nail" or dish most likely made of titanium or quartz. Then applying a concentrated material like hash or dmt. This causes the material to vaporize rather then using a lighter to combust the material. Theoretical healthier. Definitely stronger.
its not exactly leaving your body, that is why I put it in quotes. It is too hard to explain in words. You either have to experience dmt or 60x+ salvia extract to understand. Other hallucinogens' don't have the same effect. The effect many people and many forms of media portray as tripping.
Trust me my friend I am quite the experienced psychonaut.
Your still in your body even when you "leave your body" and outside stimulus can bring you back. Your still you, you just loose your own sense of yourself. I literally thought to myself the first time I dabbed dmt that I'm not breathing. I literally had no sense of my own breathing.
Joe Rogan popularized this idea a bit. Claiming he really "saw these beings". I think he was applying McKenna's machine elves to explain his experience.
But it's similar to the fractal-winged angel Ezekiel saw in the Bible.
Or the spirits experienced by Shamans.
It's an eternal "God process" which organizes information, rather than destroying it (entropy). You can find that process in the structure of the bee hive, the eye ball, a flower, a tree, a microscopic view of an insect wing, a snowflake, a database, and even the crystalline structure and atomic EM arrangement of matter invisible to the human eye.
DMT, and other entheogens, are like "God guns" that let you witness this right away, in full fanfare.
well... if youve gone to where ever DMT takes a person...
youd understand that DMT is completely, absolutely like nothing youd ever experience.
i could explain what i saw (which is bizonkers, in itself) but... the feeling (connection?)... is so profound that any attempt to describe it would wither into "thats not enough", "thats not quite it", "if only i had the words".
I don't understand sny of the words that anyone is saying in here. Dna prison camps? Traveling? And being noticed? A fractal wing angel. What did I stumble into. WHERE AM I?
I've never done drugs, but I've looked into this enough to get a decent understanding.
Just think of this:
For all of human history, very specific beings were described all across the world. Typically, a high priest, or shaman, or whatchamacallits, would be the ones who were trusted to interpret what these beings were and to, through writing or drawing, record what they looked like or said.
Now, how would mankind, thousands of years ago, and across thousands of independent and unique cultures, manage to describe the same things?
The darwinists/evolutionary crowd will say that it is all just our brains making shit up. But, that doesn't explain how millions of brains saw the same things. How do people describe seeing (essentially) the same beings, independent of one another?
When Columbus arrived in America, the natives knew English. Just saying, talking to demons, you wouldn't be the first. They live longer and had time to learn the language.
No you're not. You've clearly neven taken DMT nor studied the literature.
You are more akin to a random native traveller who accidentally was dropped into a hi-tech city of a future in China for 15 minutes and doesn't understand the culture, doesn't speak the language and operates at 1/100th of the brain/consciousness capacity of the people living there..
They talk about governments, etc. getting new technology from these other beings. Maybe they are just possessing a patent clerk in another dimension and taking notes...
Is DMT dangerous? Been meaning to try it out.
Thanks.
You really can't explain a DMT trip. It is an experience that is hard to put into words.
Also there are few different ways to take dmt. You ingest it with an oral MOAI and as long as you take enough you will trip for 18-24 hours. You can smoke it, which is what most people try. You trip just as strong as you do when you ingest it but it only last about 15 mins and it is hard to comprehend. Then you can dab it which is just like smoking it but even more intense and incomprehensible. I forgot the newest popular method is vape cartridges which is essentially a low powered dab.
So you can either eat it or smoke it and how much you take and how you take it will effect the intensity. You won't even talk to any beings unless you take a proper amount. Once you "leave your body" so to speak it isn't like you understand it to be. You loose all sense of yourself or being.
changa is the best version.
Heating up a hot "nail" or dish most likely made of titanium or quartz. Then applying a concentrated material like hash or dmt. This causes the material to vaporize rather then using a lighter to combust the material. Theoretical healthier. Definitely stronger.
If one “left their body” they might hope their body still empty when they get back!
its not exactly leaving your body, that is why I put it in quotes. It is too hard to explain in words. You either have to experience dmt or 60x+ salvia extract to understand. Other hallucinogens' don't have the same effect. The effect many people and many forms of media portray as tripping.
salvia is like being catapulted into pretty things, sorta violently, and so fast you cant see the scenery.
Lol I like that analogy. My last Salvia trip was definitely colorful and pretty lol.
But what if you did?
Trust me my friend I am quite the experienced psychonaut.
Your still in your body even when you "leave your body" and outside stimulus can bring you back. Your still you, you just loose your own sense of yourself. I literally thought to myself the first time I dabbed dmt that I'm not breathing. I literally had no sense of my own breathing.
Joe Rogan popularized this idea a bit. Claiming he really "saw these beings". I think he was applying McKenna's machine elves to explain his experience.
But it's similar to the fractal-winged angel Ezekiel saw in the Bible.
Or the spirits experienced by Shamans.
It's an eternal "God process" which organizes information, rather than destroying it (entropy). You can find that process in the structure of the bee hive, the eye ball, a flower, a tree, a microscopic view of an insect wing, a snowflake, a database, and even the crystalline structure and atomic EM arrangement of matter invisible to the human eye.
DMT, and other entheogens, are like "God guns" that let you witness this right away, in full fanfare.
well... if youve gone to where ever DMT takes a person...
youd understand that DMT is completely, absolutely like nothing youd ever experience.
i could explain what i saw (which is bizonkers, in itself) but... the feeling (connection?)... is so profound that any attempt to describe it would wither into "thats not enough", "thats not quite it", "if only i had the words".
I never got through the veil. But I'll try again in the future.
flash it to a high temp, very quickly, without burning it.
das the key.
there is equip that can do that effectively.
They know who it is. Thats the place without pain and DNA-prisoncamp
I don't understand sny of the words that anyone is saying in here. Dna prison camps? Traveling? And being noticed? A fractal wing angel. What did I stumble into. WHERE AM I?
I've never done drugs, but I've looked into this enough to get a decent understanding.
Just think of this:
For all of human history, very specific beings were described all across the world. Typically, a high priest, or shaman, or whatchamacallits, would be the ones who were trusted to interpret what these beings were and to, through writing or drawing, record what they looked like or said.
Now, how would mankind, thousands of years ago, and across thousands of independent and unique cultures, manage to describe the same things?
The darwinists/evolutionary crowd will say that it is all just our brains making shit up. But, that doesn't explain how millions of brains saw the same things. How do people describe seeing (essentially) the same beings, independent of one another?
When Columbus arrived in America, the natives knew English. Just saying, talking to demons, you wouldn't be the first. They live longer and had time to learn the language.
No you're not. You've clearly neven taken DMT nor studied the literature.
You are more akin to a random native traveller who accidentally was dropped into a hi-tech city of a future in China for 15 minutes and doesn't understand the culture, doesn't speak the language and operates at 1/100th of the brain/consciousness capacity of the people living there..
Read a DMT scientist, not cockoo-pot-heads.
Read Andrew Gallimore.
Relevant
You're like 15 years late on the DMT trend