The Conspiracy Against Satoshi Nakamoto and The World
- SN wrote to two mailing lists before releasing BC. The "Cryptography" list and the "Cypherpunks" list. Why are there zero emails from the latter?
- Hal Finney wrote in his deathbed last email that after initially installing bitcoin in Jan 2009 he forgot all about it until 2010, yet there exists a lot of correspondence between HF and SN during that time. Why? Insiders say this is because HF let SN use a shell account on HF's server and the passwords to HF's email accounts and vice versus.
- Was bitcoin announced Aug 22nd 2008, Oct. 31st 2008 or Jan 3rd 2009 or Jan 11th 2009? Or was discussed in mailing lists before any of those dates?
- How many versions of the bitcoin white paper have you seen? Insiders say the original was in ASCII and the subsequent PDFs had version numbers.
- What happened to the original Sourceforge mailing lists, forums and code repos? Edit: the sourceforge project has suddenly returned!! Not seeing any forums though.
- Are there mysterious deaths surrounding SN?
- Why didn't anyone think to put SN's correspondence or the bitcoin white paper on the blockchain. If SN did, what happened to it?
- Did the Bilderberg Group purchase the "Blockchain" company? What else do you need to know to understand SN may be in danger?
- Re. Craig Wright. SN claimed nothing, but gave away his ideas to the public domain, anonymously. Does that sound like CW?
- If SN was in danger what would it look like? Email/date alterations. Deletions. Coverups. Censorship. Did that happen?
- SN mentioned microtransactions for things as minute as viewing a web page. He mentioned future exchanges would be willing to process "free transactions". He mentioned bitcoin being the end to fiat inflationary bubbles. What happened? Bitcoin was supposed to save humanity but it currently looks like a worst case scenario for income disparity. Sound like Bilderberg to you?
- If SN was in danger; his writings lost, trusted friends compromised or dead, his comms monitored and manipulated, what should be do? What org could he turn to for help?
Ask me questions if you like. I know people who may have answers.
You've asked a lot of Questions here yourself. But I'm not certain what you are implying.
One thing I am directly saying is that the original Satoshi Nakamoto correspondence and code regarding bitcoin from his personal sourceforge have been scrubbed from the Internet and no one seems to think that is important.
Thus: obvious conspiracy.
Same with the Cypherpunks mailing list.
Who's this questionable guy? Blockchain owned by Bilderberg and he's like "nothing to see here folks".
Sheesh!
I am the only person participating in your thread. 1 of the 4 people to have up voted it besides yourself.
Thanks!
craig obviously can't be SN haha trying to copywrite the whitepaper has he even read it?
I love how conspiracy minded people think BTC is a savior. Is a oump and dump trial for the global crypto currency system. How do you get rich people, conservatives and conspiracy theorists into a global crypto?
Why you run a beta program showing them benefits and allowing them to make a bunch of “money” so after the dump and crash of fiat currencies, you will be more likely to accept the crypto currecy globocoin. Hell, you’ll probably let them chip you so you can mine it with your body’s labour.
In short, you’re participating in the trial of the system that will enslave you.
I suspect satoshi is one of the covert devs of Monero, which embodies bitcoin's original values and a lot of the more visionary tech that satoshi himself wrote of
Ok, posting this comment again.
Questionable says "nothing to see here folks" when Blockchain is owned by Bilderberg Group.
Really???
Is English even your first language? Because you not only don't seem to understand how the internet works. You seem to think a hypothesis involves writing a series of Bullet points Questions, and then attacking the only person who takes an interest in your thread, after you called him in to it via a post in a different thread. What you are doing here, does this make sense to you?
And how do you get this:
From this:
???
Sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but what do you want from me?
Regarding your points I seem to be able to address:
How I get "nothing to see here" from your post is that you didn't build upon any of the bullet points and you didn't ask any questions. It was as if the list of bullet points and conspiracy claim meant nothing to you. Any more questions?
Regarding calling you to a different thread. I wouldn't claim to have called you to action. Instead, I would say that your matter of fact insinuation that a patron of the shared-ledger concept is "on their own" with less protections than the "evil" banks provide was not the intention of Satoshi. This point would be evidenced if Satoshi's prior writings had not been systematically deleted and "forgotted" [sic] from the internet. If you don't believe me via extrapolation or based on the work built upon what we do have remaining from Satoshi, I'd be happy to brainstorm with you solutions to the problem you matter-of-factly bestowed upon all cryptocurrency users.
Long story short: the concept of a shared ledger extends beyond Proof of Work, and can include various relations such as contact networks, timestamp/transaction order, reputation, content, DNA, human fingerprints, digital fingerprints, contact tracing, digital contracts, etc. There's more than one way to skin a block. Edit: I feel like I didn't write the following: Long story short shorter: the blockchain concept can be used to reliably secure money in a seamless user-friendly way.
I would have said blockchain can be used to reliably secure information, property, people and events.
Here are the problems with your thread:
You can make points without bullet points.
Questions can be asked with out Question marks.
Theories need to be stated and presented in a readable manner.
Nothing you have stated here is related to your own original 'theory'.
This isn't a brain storming session.
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I meant to suggest more of a general high-octane speculation-type conspiracy for us to dissect, not a brainstorm.
But, keep your ideas and commentary coming, I like your energy!
Do you have a source for this claim?
Blockchain can't be owned by Bilderberg Group, that's the point of a distributed ledger.
Which is exactly why I’d like to hear where OP got that idea from...
Good point!
Not the theory of blockchain, some corporate entity I read about a couple days ago with "Blockchain" as the business name.
You're thinking of Blockstream. Which is a completely separate entity from the Core development team.
Blockstream not Blockchain, gotcha. But yes, that thing. Bilderberg.
Listen, I only got involved with this stuff less than a month ago. I can't be expected to proffer the whole conspiracy single-handedly. I'm curious what others think about the removal of the sourceforge data.
I'm not the only person who smells rotten: https://news.bitcoin.com/the-story-of-how-bitcoin-was-compromised/
edit: I meant smells something rotten.
"Blockstream was compromised, because they were bought out by AXA Insurance. Berwick goes on to say the head of AXA is the same person who heads the Bilderberg group. According to Berwick, it appears that central bankers bought out Bitcoin in order to destroy it or hamstring it."
Source: the-story-of-how-bitcoin-was-compromised/
Are you aware of what that your source is Bitcoin.com, a site that shills for Bitcoin Cash as being "the real bitcoin" and has been trying to slander bitcoin since 2018?
I can give you more info if you weren't aware of that and are interested. If you're a b-cash supporter, then I won't waste any more of my time.
Thanks. If I have other questions, mind if I shoot them your way?
Any time!
Bch is the real bitcoin. Btc was stripped of it's utility (op codes, 80 character memo etc etc) so blockstream could peddle second layer solutions. The bitcoin.com you speak of didn't come to the BCH camp until November 2017 many months after the split once it was obvious that segwit was a lie and they were not going to implement the 2mb block increase per the hong kong agreement. Do you research and you will see that I'm correct. I have been a miner since ver 0.3
I’ve done plenty of research. Roger Ver and the Chinese miners tried to hijack Bitcoin so they could implement untested and unproven increases to the block size that would have led to a massive centralization of power into the hands of the biggest miners. All because they were too impatient about Bitcoin not being viable for coffee transactions immediately. I was there for all of it. The insane shill campaigns, their purchase of r/btc to further confuse people with their BS claims that BCash was “the real bitcoin because white paper”.
The Core team took the conservative, decentralized approach, and gained consensus with Segwit. Ver couldn’t get any consensus for his unlimited block size, so he hardforked his vision, and we see exactly now how that went.
Later 2 solutions are not a scam. If you think they are, then I’d be interested to hear why.
Dude you are 100% wrong and have bought into the propaganda that Blockstream peddled. Ameurey was the main catalyst. (There were many and VERY FEW OF THEM WERE CHINESE, Jihan Wu is just very recognizable. ) I am a miner and watched it all happen in real time. You 100% have bought in to the propaganda.
Spend some time https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/ and ask questions and look around. Then for giggles spend some time here https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoin/ and ask questions and see how long it takes for them to ban you. Censorship alone will tell you where the truth is. You have been tricked. Use the logic and critical thinking that brought you to support Trump and apply those same skills to crypto and you will see through the BS
You assertion that Roger Ver was part of the whole thing PROVES you are misinformed by propaganda. The split happened 4 months BEFORE Ver was even involved. You are seriously misinformed.
Are you trying to gaslight me right now? Are you actually trying to claim that Ver and his Bitcoin Unlimited plans weren't part of the main push to fork away from the main chain?
I was there too bro, watched it all happen. You being a miner means literally nothing in terms of knowledge. I could just as easily say "No YOU fell for the propaganda" like you're trying to claim I did.
Is this an r/bitcoin reference? Otherwise I have no idea what you're referring to. And if it is, that censorship was a DIRECT result of fighting against the non-stop shill campaigns that Ver was paying for there. Then they all cried victim when mods did something about it. Again, I was there for all of it.
My logic and critical thinking skills are doing just fine, and have lead me to the exact conclusion I've laid out. I gave BCH and the "real Satoshi's vision" crowd PLENTY of chances to prove themselves, and each time they failed. I even went down to Mexico for Jeff Berwick's crypto conference to hear them out and give them a fair shake. Not only did they not deliver on any real supporting evidence for their claims, but they would lie on stage directly about BCH's functionality (that was the point that sealed it for me).
Guys like Jeff and Roger and Jihan, and several others in that community just scream scammers to me. So many red flags, and the dishonest tactics they implemented in what they saw as a "war for the name bitcoin" made me never want to support anything with their names near it.
Again, you've provided ZERO information to counter anything I just said, only claimed that I'm "100% wrong and have bought into the propaganda that Blockstream peddled" (which by the way, is the only argument I ever see from Bcashers, and never any actual evidence or legitimate arguments to support why I should support BCH over BTC).
Then you recommend a sub (r/btc) that fucking banned me 2 years ago simply for asking the same questions I asked down in Mexico but never got answers to! And then you try to claim that r/bitcoin is where you'll get banned for asking questions? You get banned for being a BCH shill, which sure it's a bit subjective, but understandable if you were there to see what the shilling campaigns there looked like a few years ago. You can't bullshit someone who knows what their talking about, and it appears to me that you are quite full of bull shit. (Though I appreciate this discussion we're having anyway, and if you want to keep it going I'm still open to hearing why BCH will one day surpass BTC as the "real bitcoin").
But don't give me that "you're 100% wrong" bull shit, because I am not, and I have done the research. More than likely 99% of the people you've talked about this with before.
Edit: Also, not for nothing, but i would be interested to hear your take on how me saying "Roger Ver and the Chinese miners tried to hijack Bitcoin so they could implement untested and unproven increases to the block size that would have led to a massive centralization of power into the hands of the biggest miners."