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Poopeed 1 point ago +1 / -0

Edit: Also, not for nothing, but i would be >interested to hear your take on how me saying > "Roger Ver and the Chinese miners tried to >hijack Bitcoin so they could implement >untested and unproven increases to the block >size that would have led to a massive >centralization of power into the hands of the >biggest miners ."

I'll give you my take: The blockchain was supposed to be able to store arbitrary data. It was supposed to make money from transaction fees. Transaction fees were suppose to be set by the people doing the transaction, and/or the owner of the block/bitcoin. For example: I could take a bitcoin hash and split it up into tiny partitions, then use them for arbitrary commerce, such as streaming a video. I could say you must pay $0.25 to stream this 500MB video, this allowing bitcoin users to host their indy media and pay for the bandwidth, without any Credit Card company, bank, CDN, or gov't being able to interfere. That's why Satoshi was all happy about expanding the size of the comment input box, which took up the majority of the space on the original UI. You could also attach arbitrary files, such as pdfs, through the menu drop-down. Now then, how was that supposed to happen in the beginning when bitcoins themselves were worthless?

Answer: I can take my little piece of a bitcoin and operate my own merkle branch, and replicate it as I see fit, putting whatever the hell I want as data in the chain, for example: deductions from my website user's loaded funds of USD the added to their account using a credit card. Then at the end of the day, I can insert a compressed representation of this arbitrary data structure I created for my specific use case and needs and then insert it into the blockchain permanently. The owner of whatever coin/block I wish to put my data, can for example, charge by the Byte, a transaction fee. He can extract his payment and leave some remaining which get consolidated up the tree in temporal succession. Thus encouraging other nodes to incorporate that arbitrarily sized data. Nodes can be incentivized to grab the data/transaction quickly by being given a larger share of the associated fee residuals. Nodes could even charge requesters to host and transmit old data blocks. The possibilities are endless, but bitcoin seems very narrow in scope for some reason.

I don't know why, but I've seen it said that bitcoin has high minimum transaction fees. $5? $26? If so, why then did some vers of the whitepaper say "There will always be exchanges willing to process transactions for free."? Always?? Satoshi was pretty sure of what was supposed to happen. Something really weird is going on, IMHO.

Side note: I read that the sequentially versioned bitcoin whitepaper used to be included in the program releases. Along with a change log that contained the entire changelog history. Some docs explaining coding style, the versioning definition, and lots of comments. I don't understand how that info could be disappeared from the entire internet's memory.

Can anyone else confirm that the bitcoin sourceforge was non-existent a few months ago both at soueceforge and archive.org? I know, I searched archive.org. Nothing was there. But it's there now, except for the version control repo and the comms in the forums.... So, who is able to alter archive.org? Isn't that a big deal?

I saw different versions of the white paper. Some mention usenet and newspapers. Some mention this weird Byzantine Generals thing. I saw one that talked about "we need a way to send money that cannot be reversed. No matter how good the argument. No matter what.". Can anyone confirm or explain?

It's been getting harder and harder to find these other versions. I also saw a "Bitcoin ebook" that was published to elaborate on the white paper. Can't find the doc anywhere. But I know people with printouts.

I wish there were more people interested in historical preservation. I find it intriguing.

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Poopeed 1 point ago +1 / -0

Blockstream not Blockchain, gotcha. But yes, that thing. Bilderberg.

Listen, I only got involved with this stuff less than a month ago. I can't be expected to proffer the whole conspiracy single-handedly. I'm curious what others think about the removal of the sourceforge data.

I'm not the only person who smells rotten: https://news.bitcoin.com/the-story-of-how-bitcoin-was-compromised/

edit: I meant smells something rotten.

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Poopeed 1 point ago +1 / -0

Whoops, sorry about that.

I meant to suggest more of a general high-octane speculation-type conspiracy for us to dissect, not a brainstorm.

But, keep your ideas and commentary coming, I like your energy!

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Poopeed 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks. If I have other questions, mind if I shoot them your way?

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Poopeed 0 points ago +1 / -1

"Blockstream was compromised, because they were bought out by AXA Insurance. Berwick goes on to say the head of AXA is the same person who heads the Bilderberg group. According to Berwick, it appears that central bankers bought out Bitcoin in order to destroy it or hamstring it."

Source: the-story-of-how-bitcoin-was-compromised/

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Poopeed 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not the theory of blockchain, some corporate entity I read about a couple days ago with "Blockchain" as the business name.

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Poopeed 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but what do you want from me?

Regarding your points I seem to be able to address:

  1. How I get "nothing to see here" from your post is that you didn't build upon any of the bullet points and you didn't ask any questions. It was as if the list of bullet points and conspiracy claim meant nothing to you. Any more questions?

  2. Regarding calling you to a different thread. I wouldn't claim to have called you to action. Instead, I would say that your matter of fact insinuation that a patron of the shared-ledger concept is "on their own" with less protections than the "evil" banks provide was not the intention of Satoshi. This point would be evidenced if Satoshi's prior writings had not been systematically deleted and "forgotted" [sic] from the internet. If you don't believe me via extrapolation or based on the work built upon what we do have remaining from Satoshi, I'd be happy to brainstorm with you solutions to the problem you matter-of-factly bestowed upon all cryptocurrency users.

Long story short: the concept of a shared ledger extends beyond Proof of Work, and can include various relations such as contact networks, timestamp/transaction order, reputation, content, DNA, human fingerprints, digital fingerprints, contact tracing, digital contracts, etc. There's more than one way to skin a block. Edit: I feel like I didn't write the following: Long story short shorter: the blockchain concept can be used to reliably secure money in a seamless user-friendly way.

I would have said blockchain can be used to reliably secure information, property, people and events.

by pkvi
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Poopeed 0 points ago +1 / -1

Thank you for replying. That was the goal of satoshi nakamoto, but they silenced him:

https://conspiracies.win/p/12hkd2AxM8/the-conspiracy-against-satoshi-n/

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Poopeed 13 points ago +14 / -1

Seems more likely to me that it kills everyone who is vaccinated. Since they could introduce one specific thing to target later.

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Poopeed 0 points ago +1 / -1

Ok, posting this comment again.

Questionable says "nothing to see here folks" when Blockchain is owned by Bilderberg Group.

Really???

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Poopeed 0 points ago +1 / -1

Who's this questionable guy? Blockchain owned by Bilderberg and he's like "nothing to see here folks".

Sheesh!

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Poopeed 1 point ago +2 / -1

One thing I am directly saying is that the original Satoshi Nakamoto correspondence and code regarding bitcoin from his personal sourceforge have been scrubbed from the Internet and no one seems to think that is important.

Thus: obvious conspiracy.

Same with the Cypherpunks mailing list.

by pkvi
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Poopeed 0 points ago +1 / -1

What do you mean by someone will rise up?

by NotACop
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Poopeed 0 points ago +1 / -1

Why would this get downvoted?

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Poopeed 0 points ago +1 / -1

You shouldn't be on your own like that. Satoshi wouldn't have let that be.

https://conspiracies.win/p/12hkd2AxM8/the-conspiracy-against-satoshi-n/

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Poopeed 1 point ago +1 / -0

See here: https://conspiracies.win/p/12hkd2AxM8/the-conspiracy-against-satoshi-n/

Satoshi's vision has been altered and deleted. Proof of Work was already established before the bitcoin whitepeper. Satoshi's breakthrough was to realize it needed to be combined with a proof of stake. Or that it could be done without proof of work altogether by combining a timestamp chain with proof of stake. You lock the timestamps in so the chain cannot be altered after the fact like the current white paper allows with a 51% majority. Proof of Stake is where you hash your data in with your social network ties. Blockchain was supposed to do much more than only currency. It was supposed to leave you in control of your immutable data and identity. Satoshi was deplatformed. He needs help.

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Poopeed 1 point ago +1 / -0

A comment from the vid: Jared D The US recommendation for CT is 42!! Anything that hits up to 42 is positive! You could have no symptoms and a single strand of rna in you and you’re quarantined. This is why “asympomatic” people are showing up. They’re NOT CONTAGIOUS! But the fact that they hide and won’t disclose the CT threshold where the virus was found proves they’re trying to keep us all ignorant and under their control. Their excuses for not revealing the CT number is ludicrous. And the fact that the scientific and medical community silently complies is telling about how good our medical professionals actually are. And no Faucci, they don’t tell you the CT threshold on your test. They refuse and the FDA tells them not to. Liar.

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