The msm is pure evil. Since 2016 I only believe what people write on twitter, and only if they are on the right. You notice how the left and lies both have the letter L? Or is no coincidence fren.
I thought twitter was msms? I get all my news from my aunt's memes on Facebook anywayz haha. I mean who has time to watch anything anymore anyways. Like, C'mon man!
You misunderstand, twitter is evil, but what people write on it is pure unadulterated truth. Especially the fact checked opinions. Soros won't fool me with because I nose what he nose. Haha! I make funny like a baby make poopoo.
The courts didn't even look at the evidence. They're supporting the fraud by abusing legalism. "You may have standing, but I say you don't. Dismissed." "You filed too early. Dismissed." "You filed too late. Dismissed." "You need to go to another court. Dismissed." "I don't care that all the facts are on your side. Dismissed."
The courts will look into evidence. What the GOP is doing by not certifying the votes is forming a task force to investigate and see if there is evidence.
Nuh uh my neighbor works for the Federal government, dept of interior, and she says safest elections ever. Which is great because 4 years ago she told me the Russians hacked our elections without being detected
Just so that all sides are represented here, I'll comment some sources that indicate there hasn't been any election fraud. Respectfully, mine are a bit more credible than MAGA subreddits and YouTube videos,.
Statement of United States Attorney General William Bar, as reported by the Associated Press on December 1, 2020: "[T]o date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election."
United States Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) advisory website on "Rumor Control."
Joint statement of the United States CISA, Election Assistance Commission, National Association of Secretaries of State, National Association of State Election Directors, and the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council: "There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."
Edit: For the record, I haven't downvoted any of the comments on this post. This is just an attempt to make sure all information is being properly disseminated.
But surely our voting systems are totally secure and not easily hackable and the claim that the 2020 election was the 'Most Secure In American History' is totes believable because government said so?
Want to cite Forbes? The article is citing the Perkins Coie lawyer responsible for the Steel Dossier. Literal leftist propaganda that doesn't provide any context for each case.
I disagree that Bar, the Trump-appointed agency head tasked with investigating federal crimes, is not a credible source for whether a federal crime has occurred.
Yes, a piece of software meant for IT administration was hacked. That's very serious and I do not dispute that. However, there is no link between that and election fraud, nor has any of the investigating agencies suggested that; you're welcome to present evidence otherwise.
CNN and Warren (along with other top, partisan politicians) are fake news, I thought we all agreed on that here. Hence, I never cite to them. I couldn't care less about the opinion content or author in the Forbes article, it was just easier to cite that than to cite to 50+ judicial opinions rejecting election fraud. The NBC article you cite is perfectly acceptable as well, I'm just looking to demonstrate that this claim has been categorically rejected in the courts.
It is important to split out the cases that were rejected on standing versus a determination that the evidence was lacking. The Forbes article fails to split those out and leaves one with the impression that the evidence was reviewed in all those cases. I have yet to hear of a case where discovery proceeded at any meaningful level.
To the comment about the cases not being about fraud, unequal treatment is likely easily proven without discovery as it is plainly obvious in some cases. This is probably the one way to quickly get cases to be resolved but again, standing makes these tough in the current judicial environment. It was a strategy and one that seems to be well advised despite being a long shot.
Ultimately, like it or not, there is not going to be a true determination of fraud until we’ll after Biden is installed. Regardless, this is the model for stealing an election. Focus on key locations where the means is available and officials are amenable and then delay with standing arguments and obfuscation of facts.
To be clear, most election fraud cases have not been dismissed for lack of standing. This MAGA line has been promulgated since the Texas case was dismissed for lack of standing, despite most of the people who talk about it not really understanding what standing doctrine is... but that's a lesson for another day I guess. Rather, most have dismissed for failure to state a claim, which is very different than standing. This quite literally means that, having construed all evidence, allegations, and inferences therefrom in the light most favorable to the plaintiff, the plaintiff has failed to allege an actionable claim.
If actionable unequal treatment was "easily proven without discovery," they wouldn't be getting dismissed for failing to state claims. Again, standing is really not an issue in most of the lawsuits thus far. Additionally, the standard for dismissal requires construing everything in the plaintiff's favor, the court is bound to not obfuscate the plaintiff's facts.
Fact check.org, The Associated Press, CISA.gov.
Hey I would rather get my info from randoms on youtube than gather my information from sites that are clearly owned and operated by TPTB.
Don't act like you are here in good faith . Next time throw in some Snopes and NewYork Times for good measure.
Beyond a shadow of a doubt there was election fraud. It has been proven time and time again. But thank you for your little reports that tell us how impossible it is.
My dad was a union butcher in Chicago. The union steward would bring a box of ballots for my mom and dad to fill out. Started in 1958 and continued, even when dad retired, until dad and mom moved away from Chicago in 2006. That's 48 years of personal evidence of voter fraud in Illinois
Lmfao. Three of my sources are from executive agencies or derivatives thereof that are quite literally headed at POTUS' choice, two sources are from academia, and another is the U.S. judiciary.
All owned and operated by the very people running everything else. Whomever they might be. Maybe you have some WHO statistics you would like to throw out next. Or you can tell us how dangerous the Coronavirus virus is with your sources? That would be amazing!
This is not r/politics? Lost?
Any sources that disprove a claim are fake, don't you know that? There is no critical thinking happening with many of these people. They want the echo chamber. They need it. Facing the truth would destroy their psyche.
Many people have tied their self-identity to the Cult of Trump, and when he lost, they lost. It's too easy to say, "nope, he really won" and just believe it to be true, regardless of the lack of evidence supporting that claim. He's a winner. So, they're winners. If he's a loser, they're losers. That's what happens in a cult. It's the same reason why the entire cult drinks the Kool-aid as the cops are closing in. They'd rather die than be wrong.
The fact that at least a significant amount of fraud occurred is pretty much undeniable at this point. I didnt care who won at first, but I do care about blatant fraud and misrepresentation. This is disgusting and concerning, no matter who you support politically if you have half a brain it should be obvious not everything is on the up-and-up.
Haha fren you cannot dispute what I said it is very well document. You can just tell tds to the sky and hope reality is not reality but soon you will see reality will be reality and Fat Don will be Fat Gone Don.
Does is really exist people that think it's no voter fraud, anywhere in the world?
Do anybody really believe that your vote count??
Come on, man! Really.
Political systems is rigged by the puppeteers behind them. They have decides long before any election.
One proof of this happens today. So-called pandemic, with lockdowns, mandatory mask.
While we are blindsided by this, IMF and NWO swoops in with their new currency, becauae Fiat money is about to implode.
What do we so? We post angry posts on forums.
And just accept what's happening.
He knew of course. He warned about this fraud in interview after interview prior to the election (see his long interview on Rush after the cancelled 2nd debate), and didn't do enough before hand. Yes, for example, they tried to get PA to comply with their own election laws, etc. but the courts in what is called "Trump Law" made special rulings against him (see the lower court cases on the wall, trannies in the military, and the Census for other examples). These "Trump Law" decisions had no precedent nor will they be applied to later presidents.
Look, this wasn't 4D chess on his part. Let's face it, while am hopeful about the 6th and Pence being solid as a rock, Trump failed here.
I think people way, way overestimate how much power the president actually has as well. Obama didn't get jack shit done his second term, especially after the midterms. Likewise, Trump ranted and raved, but he was fighting his own party and the Dems simultaneously.
He called this before it even happened, THE NIGHT of the election.
"THIS IS A VERY BIG MOMENT. THIS IS A MAJOR FRAUD ON OUR NATION. WE WANT A LAW TO BE USED IN A PROPER MANNER. WE WILL BE GOING TO THE U.S. SUPREME COURT. WE WANT ALL VOTING TO STOP. WE DON'T WANT THEM TO FIND ANY BALLOTS AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING AND ADD THEM TO THE LIST, OK? IT IS A VERY SAD MOMENT. TO ME THIS IS A VERY SAD MOMENT. WE WILL WIN THIS. AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, WE ALREADY HAVE. [APPLAUSE]"
It's amazing how close he was to the 4 am time too, it was like 6 minutes off.
He couldn’t. The only chance to completely drain the swamp was to catch all of these creatures committing the crime in the public’s eye. I don’t think even he knew how deep the corruption went. Leftists have been taught to hate so vehemently that they can see the fraud and pretend to believe it doesn’t exist— even justify it.
Our country, the world, is in real trouble. The red team blue team mentality cannot persist if we have any chance of preserving our way of life. Biden and his team are openly advocating for the great reset now. There will never be a better chance in history to right its course. The question is, how many people will wake up and realize this before it is too late?
If Trump pulls it off, unlikely, but possible, Pence will have ensured about 75 million people's loyalty. Also, if he stabs Trump in the back, he has no future in the GOP. Not to mention that no Democrat will ever voter for him as tainted by his being the VP to their hated enemy.
That's an alternate take, also a result of basic deductive reasoning.
Also, unless people express things in their own words, don't presume you know what's in their minds. Be more skeptical.
But the other thing is based on the constitution even if pence denies a states electoral votes, the house and senate have to agree with him, otherwise the votes go forward as it is currently certified.
Like Kaladin of the Spear I will thrust my opinion into your brain.
Have you, my mad fren, considered that Mr Fat Man had been carefully creating his narrative on fraud for the past year because he has known how much he made the Americans angry at him by golfing so so so many times?
Also Mr Obama had a turtle problem slowing down legislation he wanted to pass. Did you know turtles even vote against their own initiatives when backed by a black man?
Watched a clip of Ted Cruz addressing Congress today. Don't think I thrust him. He made the statement that 39% think our election was rigged. My spidy sense tells me that Cruz is bullshitting us. If only 39% is the number he wants to use to Congress, what explains his passion to fight for us? ...And 39% wouldn't have been enough to give Trump a win, or to cause enough of an outcry to protest this election by the millions of supporters. So why did Cruz use this low number? Perhaps to fool us, making us think he is on our side. Cruz may be Deep Stater too.
Navarro Report: The Immaculate Deception - Six Key Dimensions of Election Irregularities - 12/18/20
Analysis of 3,000 U.S. counties shows Joe Biden received 5.6 % more votes in counties using Dominion Voting Systems (Video) - 12/17/20
Antrim Michigan Dominion Voting Systems Forensics Report - 12/13/20
Evidence Grows: ’20 Election Was Rigged - 11/24/20
Georgia Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman's Summary of Testimony from the December 3, 2020 Hearing - 12/17/20
Five States and the Election Irregularities and Issues - 12/8/20
Voter Integrity Project: Findings and Conclusions (Video) - 11/24/20
The Legitimacy and Effect of Private Funding in Federal and State Electoral Processes - 12/16/20
Anomalies in Vote Counts and Their Effects on Election 2020 - 11/24/20
Explosive: New Data From Rigorous Statistical Analysis Points to Voter Fraud in Montgomery County, PA - 11/21/20
2020 Election: An analysis of voting data from Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin - 11/26/20
Sidney Powell's Team Binder - 12/26/20
Election Night Errors - How did that happen? (Video) - 12/12/20
A Close Look at the Data - Arizona (Video) - 12/17/20
Georgia - A Close Look at the Data and Events - Chapter 1 (Video) - 12/25/20
r/DonaldTrump's Report on Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic - 12/24/20
A (Fairly) Complete List of the Most Significant Claims of 2020 Election Miscounts, Errors, or Fraud - 12/20/20
Skeptical of Voter Fraud in 2020? Here’s Your Evidence - 11/20/20
2020 Election Investigation: Who is Stealing America? (Video) - 12/14/20
A Crowdsourcing Tool Aggregating Publicly Available Items of Evidence
Joe Cheated: Here's Proof
A List of Video Evidence, Evidence Hearings, Court Cases, and Additional Resources
A Video Collection of 2020 Election Fraud - 11/6/20
5 More Ways Joe Biden Magically Outperformed Election Norms - 11/23/20
The Plot to Steal America (Video) - 12/7/20
But the NYT, Washington Post, CNN and everyone on twitter told me there's zero evidence of Trump's absurd and ridiculous unsubstantiated claims.
Therefore every one of these links must be Russian disinformation.
I too believe without question what the msm tells me lol. I mean why would they lie to me, right?
The msm is pure evil. Since 2016 I only believe what people write on twitter, and only if they are on the right. You notice how the left and lies both have the letter L? Or is no coincidence fren.
I thought twitter was msms? I get all my news from my aunt's memes on Facebook anywayz haha. I mean who has time to watch anything anymore anyways. Like, C'mon man!
You misunderstand, twitter is evil, but what people write on it is pure unadulterated truth. Especially the fact checked opinions. Soros won't fool me with because I nose what he nose. Haha! I make funny like a baby make poopoo.
You no make funny, you make sad sad ? ? ?
How now no truth if fax checks cant even tell me wut truth im supposed to no???? ????
"There's no evidence because the courts said so!"
The courts didn't even look at the evidence. They're supporting the fraud by abusing legalism. "You may have standing, but I say you don't. Dismissed." "You filed too early. Dismissed." "You filed too late. Dismissed." "You need to go to another court. Dismissed." "I don't care that all the facts are on your side. Dismissed."
The Trump legal team (circa November 2020) told the court there was no evidence: https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/trump-campaign-attorneys-admit-there-is-no-evidence-of-any-fraud-in-connection-with-challenged-ballots-in-bucks-county-pa/
The courts will look into evidence. What the GOP is doing by not certifying the votes is forming a task force to investigate and see if there is evidence.
Nuh uh my neighbor works for the Federal government, dept of interior, and she says safest elections ever. Which is great because 4 years ago she told me the Russians hacked our elections without being detected
Please add “ProofTrumpLost.com” It’s a redirect to HereIsTheEvidence.com.
I think of it as an attempt at a surprise red pill.
Just so that all sides are represented here, I'll comment some sources that indicate there hasn't been any election fraud. Respectfully, mine are a bit more credible than MAGA subreddits and YouTube videos,.
Edit: For the record, I haven't downvoted any of the comments on this post. This is just an attempt to make sure all information is being properly disseminated.
Why can you guys never just present your evidence without doing this?
How about with all due respect I say your sources aren't credible because they're just think tank and 'Fact check' propaganda?
How about we not cite Bar, since everyone claims he covered up Russiagate, right?
Want to cite CISA?
How about this; CISA: 'Significant' SolarWinds hack 'impacting' local governments - The country’s cybersecurity agency says the hacking campaign discovered earlier this month was “impacting” local governments, in addition to federal and state entities and businesses.
But surely our voting systems are totally secure and not easily hackable and the claim that the 2020 election was the 'Most Secure In American History' is totes believable because government said so?
CNN EXPOSES HOW EASY IT IS TO HACK DOMINION VOTING MACHINES
ELIZABETH WARREN & OTHER DEMOCRATS AGREED THAT DOMINION COULD ALTER VOTES … BUT APPARENTLY IF IT HELPS THEIR PARTY IT’S OKAY
Want to cite Forbes? The article is citing the Perkins Coie lawyer responsible for the Steel Dossier. Literal leftist propaganda that doesn't provide any context for each case.
At least give a better source for your propaganda: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-s-election-fight-includes-over-30-lawsuits-it-s-n1248289
I disagree that Bar, the Trump-appointed agency head tasked with investigating federal crimes, is not a credible source for whether a federal crime has occurred.
Yes, a piece of software meant for IT administration was hacked. That's very serious and I do not dispute that. However, there is no link between that and election fraud, nor has any of the investigating agencies suggested that; you're welcome to present evidence otherwise.
CNN and Warren (along with other top, partisan politicians) are fake news, I thought we all agreed on that here. Hence, I never cite to them. I couldn't care less about the opinion content or author in the Forbes article, it was just easier to cite that than to cite to 50+ judicial opinions rejecting election fraud. The NBC article you cite is perfectly acceptable as well, I'm just looking to demonstrate that this claim has been categorically rejected in the courts.
It is important to split out the cases that were rejected on standing versus a determination that the evidence was lacking. The Forbes article fails to split those out and leaves one with the impression that the evidence was reviewed in all those cases. I have yet to hear of a case where discovery proceeded at any meaningful level.
To the comment about the cases not being about fraud, unequal treatment is likely easily proven without discovery as it is plainly obvious in some cases. This is probably the one way to quickly get cases to be resolved but again, standing makes these tough in the current judicial environment. It was a strategy and one that seems to be well advised despite being a long shot.
Ultimately, like it or not, there is not going to be a true determination of fraud until we’ll after Biden is installed. Regardless, this is the model for stealing an election. Focus on key locations where the means is available and officials are amenable and then delay with standing arguments and obfuscation of facts.
To be clear, most election fraud cases have not been dismissed for lack of standing. This MAGA line has been promulgated since the Texas case was dismissed for lack of standing, despite most of the people who talk about it not really understanding what standing doctrine is... but that's a lesson for another day I guess. Rather, most have dismissed for failure to state a claim, which is very different than standing. This quite literally means that, having construed all evidence, allegations, and inferences therefrom in the light most favorable to the plaintiff, the plaintiff has failed to allege an actionable claim.
If actionable unequal treatment was "easily proven without discovery," they wouldn't be getting dismissed for failing to state claims. Again, standing is really not an issue in most of the lawsuits thus far. Additionally, the standard for dismissal requires construing everything in the plaintiff's favor, the court is bound to not obfuscate the plaintiff's facts.
Fatman Barr is that you? Or just another shill....
Fact check.org, The Associated Press, CISA.gov. Hey I would rather get my info from randoms on youtube than gather my information from sites that are clearly owned and operated by TPTB. Don't act like you are here in good faith . Next time throw in some Snopes and NewYork Times for good measure. Beyond a shadow of a doubt there was election fraud. It has been proven time and time again. But thank you for your little reports that tell us how impossible it is.
I've believe fraud has been in our elections at least as far back as Nixon, maybe further
My dad was a union butcher in Chicago. The union steward would bring a box of ballots for my mom and dad to fill out. Started in 1958 and continued, even when dad retired, until dad and mom moved away from Chicago in 2006. That's 48 years of personal evidence of voter fraud in Illinois
Lmfao. Three of my sources are from executive agencies or derivatives thereof that are quite literally headed at POTUS' choice, two sources are from academia, and another is the U.S. judiciary.
All owned and operated by the very people running everything else. Whomever they might be. Maybe you have some WHO statistics you would like to throw out next. Or you can tell us how dangerous the Coronavirus virus is with your sources? That would be amazing! This is not r/politics? Lost?
Yes, for three of these sources, and (to an extent) the judiciary, that person is Trump. I don't see what your point is here.
Her point is shills are not welcome here. This is not reddit
The mod of this sub is literally the same one from Reddit you fag
If everyone with a contrary opinion to you is a shill, you're gonna have a rough time in this world.
Any sources that disprove a claim are fake, don't you know that? There is no critical thinking happening with many of these people. They want the echo chamber. They need it. Facing the truth would destroy their psyche.
Many people have tied their self-identity to the Cult of Trump, and when he lost, they lost. It's too easy to say, "nope, he really won" and just believe it to be true, regardless of the lack of evidence supporting that claim. He's a winner. So, they're winners. If he's a loser, they're losers. That's what happens in a cult. It's the same reason why the entire cult drinks the Kool-aid as the cops are closing in. They'd rather die than be wrong.
I think I would puje if I ever went to a political rally for a politician. Sad sad people.
I've reviewed your sources, I'm not convinced. Feel free to mount an argument otherwise.
My argument is that your sources are cumulative, non-credible, and unconvincing. Feel free to argue otherwise.
Yes, I, do.
Oh right, I forget we label all Trump-appointed politicians "swamp" when it doesn't work out in his favor. How cute.
Trash sources, maybe reddit would like them
Well that's not very nice.
And you are a sock puppet. Move along little puss
That's likewise also not very nice. tsk tsk
go home globohomo faggot
That's not very nice.
The fact that at least a significant amount of fraud occurred is pretty much undeniable at this point. I didnt care who won at first, but I do care about blatant fraud and misrepresentation. This is disgusting and concerning, no matter who you support politically if you have half a brain it should be obvious not everything is on the up-and-up.
I agree friend! The election fraud that Mr Fat Don attempted with the USPS was disgusting and Poor's to anyone.
careful moron, your TDS is showing.
Haha fren you cannot dispute what I said it is very well document. You can just tell tds to the sky and hope reality is not reality but soon you will see reality will be reality and Fat Don will be Fat Gone Don.
https://youtu.be/SEU6owG2Gjo
I'm not watching a boring video, I get all my news directly from the source, right wing twitter posts.
Lol you can't be serious dude
Does is really exist people that think it's no voter fraud, anywhere in the world?
Do anybody really believe that your vote count?? Come on, man! Really.
Political systems is rigged by the puppeteers behind them. They have decides long before any election.
One proof of this happens today. So-called pandemic, with lockdowns, mandatory mask. While we are blindsided by this, IMF and NWO swoops in with their new currency, becauae Fiat money is about to implode.
What do we so? We post angry posts on forums. And just accept what's happening.
He knew of course. He warned about this fraud in interview after interview prior to the election (see his long interview on Rush after the cancelled 2nd debate), and didn't do enough before hand. Yes, for example, they tried to get PA to comply with their own election laws, etc. but the courts in what is called "Trump Law" made special rulings against him (see the lower court cases on the wall, trannies in the military, and the Census for other examples). These "Trump Law" decisions had no precedent nor will they be applied to later presidents.
Look, this wasn't 4D chess on his part. Let's face it, while am hopeful about the 6th and Pence being solid as a rock, Trump failed here.
I think people way, way overestimate how much power the president actually has as well. Obama didn't get jack shit done his second term, especially after the midterms. Likewise, Trump ranted and raved, but he was fighting his own party and the Dems simultaneously.
Ultimately, the president's power, is the power to persuade. Here is a good wiki on the subject about one of the truest books in political science: https://adambrown.info/p/notes/neustadt_presidential_power
He called this before it even happened, THE NIGHT of the election.
"THIS IS A VERY BIG MOMENT. THIS IS A MAJOR FRAUD ON OUR NATION. WE WANT A LAW TO BE USED IN A PROPER MANNER. WE WILL BE GOING TO THE U.S. SUPREME COURT. WE WANT ALL VOTING TO STOP. WE DON'T WANT THEM TO FIND ANY BALLOTS AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING AND ADD THEM TO THE LIST, OK? IT IS A VERY SAD MOMENT. TO ME THIS IS A VERY SAD MOMENT. WE WILL WIN THIS. AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, WE ALREADY HAVE. [APPLAUSE]"
It's amazing how close he was to the 4 am time too, it was like 6 minutes off.
He knew. I wish he had done more before hand.
He couldn’t. The only chance to completely drain the swamp was to catch all of these creatures committing the crime in the public’s eye. I don’t think even he knew how deep the corruption went. Leftists have been taught to hate so vehemently that they can see the fraud and pretend to believe it doesn’t exist— even justify it.
Our country, the world, is in real trouble. The red team blue team mentality cannot persist if we have any chance of preserving our way of life. Biden and his team are openly advocating for the great reset now. There will never be a better chance in history to right its course. The question is, how many people will wake up and realize this before it is too late?
there is a 0% chance Pence is going to try to overturn the eleciton on the 6th.
He has his own political future to think of
Gee, I wish I had telepathy too.
just basic deductive reasoning
If Trump pulls it off, unlikely, but possible, Pence will have ensured about 75 million people's loyalty. Also, if he stabs Trump in the back, he has no future in the GOP. Not to mention that no Democrat will ever voter for him as tainted by his being the VP to their hated enemy.
That's an alternate take, also a result of basic deductive reasoning.
Also, unless people express things in their own words, don't presume you know what's in their minds. Be more skeptical.
But the other thing is based on the constitution even if pence denies a states electoral votes, the house and senate have to agree with him, otherwise the votes go forward as it is currently certified.
we're lucky. in 6 days we'll know what ended up happening.
you'll realize I was right and I will also realize that I was right
Hello Mr Stormlight,
Like Kaladin of the Spear I will thrust my opinion into your brain.
Have you, my mad fren, considered that Mr Fat Man had been carefully creating his narrative on fraud for the past year because he has known how much he made the Americans angry at him by golfing so so so many times?
Also Mr Obama had a turtle problem slowing down legislation he wanted to pass. Did you know turtles even vote against their own initiatives when backed by a black man?
The system is supposed to slow down everything, by design. "Ambition opposing ambition." Go read The Federalist 10 by Hamilton.
Oh, and the surest way to make Democrats be against something they supported previously, is to have Republicans support it, and vice versa.
Sheesh, you're so transparent.
Can you show me an instance of the Democrats killing their own bill because a republican president decided to support it?
Sure...https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sen-tim-scott-says-senate-democrats-have-blocked-his-police-reform-bill/ar-BB15FewG
A sure thing...if you don't like one party's position on XYZ, wait about ten years and it will flip.
Sure, a little different. Have you ever seen someone filibuster their own bill?
https://bypass.theweek.com/articles-amp/469675/mitch-mcconnells-amazing-filibuster-bill
What pettifoggery are you engaging in now? Just get to the point.
Video Avidence: https://rumble.com/user/ElectionNightFacts
facts
nice post
Watched a clip of Ted Cruz addressing Congress today. Don't think I thrust him. He made the statement that 39% think our election was rigged. My spidy sense tells me that Cruz is bullshitting us. If only 39% is the number he wants to use to Congress, what explains his passion to fight for us? ...And 39% wouldn't have been enough to give Trump a win, or to cause enough of an outcry to protest this election by the millions of supporters. So why did Cruz use this low number? Perhaps to fool us, making us think he is on our side. Cruz may be Deep Stater too.
Bill Barr said just a few days ago there is 'no evidence of voting fraud'
That's not what he said at all, he said he had yet to see evidence of enough fraud that could overturn the election.
That's a big difference, and way more evidence has come out even since he said that.
Doesn't fucking matter.
They overruled everything.
Evidence Collection: https://rumble.com/user/ElectionNightFacts
See also, Presidential Election Thread https://8kun.top/pnd/res/186048.html