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What is going on here? Dominion Voting Systems Sends Nasty Letter to Witness Mellissa Carone. Is this witness intimidation? (www.thegatewaypundit.com)
posted 4 years ago by Transfer 4 years ago by Transfer +70 / -0
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– alasbabylon103 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

It seems she doesn’t have a lawyer yet she clearly needs one ASAP. My guess would be that they would need a court order to compel her to preserve evidence and they know it but they are banking on the fact that she doesn’t have an attorney and So she has no idea Of her rights. These attorneys are definitely bully’s and will get away with it unless she gets an attorney. Once she has an attorney they have to communicate to her attorney and they won’t threaten like that. I hope she is safe, theIr henchmen are probably already planning break ins and other intimidation tactics. Sad!

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– newuserfromreddit 3 points 4 years ago +7 / -4

Is it nasty? Yes. Is it witness intimidation? No.

This reads like a demand letter prefacing a civil suit against Carone for defamation.

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– alasbabylon103 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

It depends.....whistleblowers have federal and state protections. I would see this as a form of retaliation which is prohibited conduct by the employer. Was she a dominion employee? They might be violating the whistleblower protection act or certain employment laws that prohibit intimidation or retaliation by the employer to an employee reporting fraud.

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– newuserfromreddit -4 points 4 years ago +2 / -6

I'm not entirely sure whistleblower protection applies to this context. Generally, if such a law applies, you are protected only for disclosing information you "reasonably believe" is evidence of a crime (or another protected category). Defamation, on the other hand, requires the plaintiff to show that the defendant knowingly or recklessly disclosed false information.

Thus, if you prove defamation, you likewise overcome the whistleblower protection hurdle.

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– alasbabylon103 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

No you are not understanding that an employer who retaliated against an employee who reports fraud by “defaming” Violates the whistleblower protection act. It’s not a defamation case. It’s just further proof that the employer violates basic employment obligations systematically. Like I said employers have an obligation to report and cooperate with investigators when fraud is reported by the whistleblower. Instead dominion chose to threaten the whistleblower and characterize her as menial to dismiss her report. This violates the act. It’s retaliation and I intimidation. It has nothing to do with defamation or the election. Whistleblowers have federal protections especially when it involves federal and state agencies.

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– newuserfromreddit -2 points 4 years ago +3 / -5

First, Dominion is not a federal or state agency. As a private corporation, the applicability of U.S. whistleblowing is pretty tightly constrained; there usually has to be some sort of a public report duty for the employee to benefit, or something in the company bylaws. I'm not aware of any protections that would apply to Carone under these circumstances. To be clear, whistleblower protection is not a blanket thing.

Second, the Whistleblower Protection Act only applies to governmental workers, which Carone is not.

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– alasbabylon103 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Whistleblower protection act does not only apply to federal government workers. It applies to all workers reporters fraud. However federal workers get additional protections that whistleblowers do not have.

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– newuserfromreddit -3 points 4 years ago +1 / -4

I don't know how else to tell you that it does. See, 5 U.S.C. § 2105 (limiting the definition of an "employee" under the Whistleblower Protection Act to federal positions).

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– alasbabylon103 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I hate ignorance: “Recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Lawson v. FMR LLC that Sarbanes-Oxley Act (SOX) Section 806, which protects employees from retaliation, also applies to private companies, contractors and subcontractors that provide services to public companies. “Retaliation” is broadly defined to include the discharge, demotion, suspension, threatening, harassment or any discrimination against a whistleblower. The Lawson decision has made SOX Section 806 an important consideration for private companies.” There are many types of whistleblowers In the private sector: pharma wistleblowers are only one example. Qui tam or false claims. There are also whistleblowers in the finance sector (securities exchange commission) You are spreading misinformation about A whistleblower Who is reporting fraud. Be careful it could be found to be a form of retaliation and I bet that employee already has found an attorney. I am sure you would not want to found liable for retaliation? Federal employees get additional protections than private sector whistleblowers but even then the fact that it is involving a federal election that would up to the judges interpretation and a skilled attorney. Whistleblowers are near and dear my heart and your too partisan and ignorant for my taste. I suggest you share the link with whoever you work for, they need better compliance practices right now they are acting like professional mobsters. https://weaver.com/blog/whistleblower-protections-hit-private-companies-are-you-ready

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– illiac-iv 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That sounds better than I'd have expected. However, whistleblower protection has gone into the crapper in america (and other countries never had that in first place -- "fouling up your own nest" is what other cultures use for "whistleblower").

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– illiac-iv 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Not by the letter of the law. She is probably very intimidated at this point and needs a defense fund.

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– NelsonMandelaffect -9 points 4 years ago +4 / -13

Can we see the letter? I don't see a letter, I just see a shitty partisan spin site.

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– Transfer [S] 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/dominion-attorneys-send-brutal-letter-to-trump-campaigns-so-called-star-witness-mellissa-carone/

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– NelsonMandelaffect -12 points 4 years ago +4 / -16

Ok so it's a threat of litigation, which is pretty standard if someone smears you. Unless she is planning to testify in some ongoing court case, which I believe she is not, then it would not be witness intimidation as she is not longer a witness.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 7 points 4 years ago +8 / -1

Because a corporation with limitless legal resources threatening an individual with a modest salary is justice.

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– newuserfromreddit -8 points 4 years ago +2 / -10

Justice is blind, that's the point.

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– NelsonMandelaffect -10 points 4 years ago +3 / -13

Will, imagine if you're that corporation, and imagine for a second IF she is lying, I will say if and give her the benefit of the doubt, she had fundamentally undermined the company and irreparably damaged is reputation in a global scale.

She may have cost hundreds of people future work.

I would sue her ass into next week.

So now it's about who has truth in their side.

Does that make any sense?

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 4 points 4 years ago +6 / -2

With the kind of money they have, the truth is irrelevant. If she's telling the truth, she doesn't have the capital to go toe to toe with a giant corporation, and she likely knows it. It's either defend the truth, or lose her life savings.

Dominion knows this, which is why they are throwing these lawsuits around. If they really believed these witnesses were lying, they'd pick on somebody their own size: Donald Trump

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– NelsonMandelaffect -8 points 4 years ago +2 / -10

Answer me this honestly, I'm stuck of fucking tell answers and blind devotion here.

Is it possible, in your mind, that she's lying ?

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– hunterhiden 5 points 4 years ago +6 / -1

So she ruined her social and professional life and will risk prison for 5 years just for shits and giggles?

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Given the risk she is taking, combined with the sheer lack of support and zero monetary gain, the chances of her lying are slim (but not zero).

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– alasbabylon103 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

It doesn’t work that way. If you are an employer and the employee reports fraud especially if this is regarding federal contracts or state contracts then the employer has an obligation to investigate and is blocked from retaliating, terminating, harassing, or intimidation of the employee. So the employer / dominion is taking on a huge liability by acting this way. This is how guilty employers act when covering up fraud. In fact the employer is supposed to cooperate and report the fraud themselves to the authorities as soon as they are aware. She probably has a strong case already against dominion as a whistleblower.

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– NelsonMandelaffect -6 points 4 years ago +1 / -7

You're free to believe that, I don't think so. The court cases are pretty much done, the part she had to play is over and the gop are going to drop her like a Kanye record.

I don't think she has anything here, and honestly, she came off a bit hysterical and drunk during the hearings. Hurt her credibility in my eyes.

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– alasbabylon103 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Federal whistleblower cases take years. This has nothing to do with trump or the election. It’s a specific act called the whistleblower protection act. It is related to Employment cases too. If she has an attorney hopefully they help her. However the current climate is very politically charged and The Michigan attorney general is trying to get sanction against attorneys fightIng fraud connected to election. So it might be hard for her to get a lawyer.I would advice her to contact EEOC and file a complaint at least it would open an official investigation to make sure her employment rights were not violated. Poor thing, I would not want to be in her shoes. she is a hero for exposing these criminal acts. it’s sad that the executives have chosen Intimidation And retaliation rather than taking steps to fix the problems she exposed. Of course dominion executive don’t follow their obligations either whether it’s employment law, whistleblower laws, or election laws. However you don’t know that is also typical of companies committing fraud. Very sad but it happens everyday. It actually fits the legal definition of “conspiracy” to a tee! Your characterization of her being drunk while she is publicly interrogated is cruel and horrible. Testifying in court takes a lot of courage. That she seemed like an amateur and not smooth or polished like cnn anchors tells me she was sincere and unrehearsed. You are part of the problem that whistleblowers face. Your type enable politicians and criminals get away with fraud.

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– Faheelee 2 points 4 years ago +4 / -2

go back to the JIDF and tell them you failed your mission

must be getting paid a lot to be a permanent faggot here

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– NelsonMandelaffect -7 points 4 years ago +2 / -9

Da joooooos.

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– DavidColeIntrepid 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

https://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=6

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– hunterhiden 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Partisan spin site? Bet you wouldnt call the nyt mother of all partisan spin sites that

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– NelsonMandelaffect -7 points 4 years ago +1 / -8

I never brought up the NYT... Would you consider the gateway pundit a good non biased source for news? Do you believe they accurately portray facts?

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– hunterhiden 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

They do a much better job accurately portraying facts than all of msm

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– NelsonMandelaffect -5 points 4 years ago +1 / -6

Hahaha. My god the delusion is out of control. They are literally one of the worst for completely made up fake news.

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– hunterhiden 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

The NYT? Well yeah obviously

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– DavidColeIntrepid 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

https://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=6

The jew york times has been pushing deliberately falsified propaganda for decades

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