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jack4455667788 1 point ago +3 / -2

More likely, the balloons popped.

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jack4455667788 3 points ago +4 / -1

I know this was a borderline schizo conspiracy theory

Oh, I don't think so. Not borderline anyway.

I think it is completely reasonable that, assuming the shot is nanotech and is intended to be in EVERY "citizen" not just the percentage that stupidly agreed to it - they would almost certainly try other (including clandestine) delivery methods.

Remember the stabbings at the concerts?

It is also interesting that you mention morgellons, considering joni mitchell.

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

The greeks told the legend of pandora's box (containing all the worlds plagues) to teach EXACTLY this lesson.

Most people do not understand why in the ending, pandora closes the box just in time to keep one plague - hope inside.

Hope is a sickness/plague.

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jack4455667788 1 point ago +2 / -1

You're dismissed now, Tinkerbell.

Do you think you are in a fictional 19th century english novel? This is real life, and you are really failing to understand this conversation.

When you show up with that other, lesser known, working coordinates system that is predictive for the surface of this planet,

Lol. You don't understand why what you are saying is meaningless, but you MIGHT if you just answer 2 simple questions (that I specifically asked to help you, and you have avoided due to intellectual dishonesty)

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

You're gonna wear that no matter WHAT the fuck you try to claim.

You don't seem to understand what is happening here. I am trying to have a discussion (asking questions, providing analogy), and you are having an argument with yourself.

You can't "win" a discussion, but you can lose the plot :(

You clearly have no idea what I'm claiming, as evidenced by your complete inability to quote me.

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jack4455667788 1 point ago +2 / -1

nobody gives a fuck what you think, because you're a stupid, shit-fed, flat Earth barking, illiteratti monkey,

Spoken like a true intellectual ;)

Try to remember; Ad-hom is the last resort of the intellectually incompetent. They attack the thinker because they are too stupid to attack the thought instead. Intellectuals stick to attacking the thought! Just fyi!

WHoooSH: that's over your head.

No, I understand it perfectly well - and why it is incorrect. But I am trying to help YOU understand that. It's tough, because you haven't given it enough thought and all I can do to try and change that is ask questions (which you categorically refuse to answer)

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

EVERY single METER of the SURFACE of this PLANET, that has a SIDEWALK, or a CONCRETE or ASPHALT ROAD, has been built knowing EXACTLY how long that street, city block, stretch of highway is, compared METICULOUSLY, to the PREDICTION of the SPHERICAL ONLY COORDINATES

It is adorably gullible that you believe that. The reality is vastly different. I can tell that you haven't looked into it seriously.

used to RULE this PLANET down to the last METER.

Lol, perhaps you are better suited for the conpro reservation. Eh?

and that EVERY single STRUCTURE ever built or laid down, did it along the lines drawn by SPHERICAL COORDINATES, is NO ONE'S misunderstanding PROBLEM but yours.

Once again, it is adorable that you gullibly believe this. The reality is vastly different. People don't need to know the shape of the entire world, nor accommodate it to build most any and everything. Of course that is the "normal" and standard way all things have been built across all of human history.

Whether you like it, lump it, or set yourself on fire in the street over it.

You should try having a discussion instead of a stupid argument! Argument is for idiots. Discussion is for the learned!

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jack4455667788 2 points ago +3 / -1

Ayh said flatters not bcuz its a phrase ayh have seen (haven't, bcuz ayh don't spend time on such an idiotic subject) but bcuz it was an pejorative sounding spite.

Lol. So you didn't pick it up, you INVENTED IT?!?!

Well, in that case - congrats. It does not at all make you sound stupid!

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jack4455667788 -1 points ago +1 / -2

Actually, you failed to answer 2 simple questions and then made incorrect claims about what I said (based on your misunderstanding) which you couldn't support.

I agree that your forgone conclusion of "you're wrong" prevented you from discussing anything.

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jack4455667788 -1 points ago +1 / -2

We're DONE DISCUSSING

Ah, but can you really be done discussing without ever beginning to discuss?

Once again, please notice (for your benefit) that you could not cite my "claim" (that you misunderstood) and were unable to answer two simple questions honestly. The questions were asked for your benefit!

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jack4455667788 -2 points ago +1 / -3

Yes, YOU TRIED TO CLAIM THAT NO ONE EVER CHECKS WHETHER SPHERICAL COORDINATES WORK.

When? Find my quote (that you obviously misunderstood), and then we can discuss it.

I asked 2 questions, and you still fail to answer them :(

This has NO CONNECTION with how ANTS develop their view of the world.

That may be, but we aren't discussing how ants develop their view of the world. We are discussing a simple analogy, and 2 simple questions.

YES you DID try to claim

No, you simply misunderstood me. That's why you can't quote my supposed "claim". I never made any such claim. If you quote what you misunderstood to be this claim, then I can help you understand what I actually said and meant!

Conversation isn't as easy as you seem to think it is. It is quite easy to misunderstand, even when you are trying your absolute best (which you most obviously are not).

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jack4455667788 -1 points ago +1 / -2

YOUR ANALOGY ISN'T COMPARABLE.

You really still don't understand the analogy? That's too bad. I don't think I can explain it any more clearly.

Do you notice that you still haven't answered ANY of the questions that I asked specifically to help you understand? You will understand better if you simply think about the questions and answer them (they are simple yes/no questions).

No, it's NOT possible I misunderstood you

Lol, I'm sure the emphatic text yelling is just further evidence that you never rush to emotional misunderstanding...

you TRIED to CLAIM NOBODY EVER CHECKS SPHERICAL COORDINATES

No. I did not claim that, nor try to. You have clearly misunderstood me. I asked two (and a half) questions. You refused to answer them and then yelled for a while while hemorrhaging insult. And now, we're all caught up.

So would you care to try answering those questions for the first time, so that you can better understand your misunderstanding? Or are you just happy being wrong?

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jack4455667788 -1 points ago +1 / -2

There IS no ANALOGY

You just don't understand it. Let me help!

When trying to determine the shape of the entire world, IN TERMS OF SCALE, humans are much like ants trying to figure out the shape of the entire forest. The problem (of scale) is directly analogous.

Do you recognize the analogy now?

You've CRASHED and you're so fucking STUPID you can't GRASP that.

Or it's possible you misunderstood me and are acting foolish :( Try to use your words, and avoid ad-hom (the last resort of the stupid). Address the thoughts instead!

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +2 / -2

They don't HAVE PREDICTIVE SYSTEMS you STUPID fucking MONKEY, they go out and crawl, and LEAVE SCENT TRAILS.

By trying to destroy/discard the analogy (instead of evaluate and understand it), you are missing the point entirely.

No, people are not ants (nor monkeys, lol) Yes, ants use scent trails and other methods. The questions I asked didn't pertain to any of that. They were yes or no questions which you avoided answering. Why?

You fucking idiot.

I'm not the one who can't answer two simple questions honestly :( Would you care to give it another try? I asked the specific questions I did to help you understand, not waste your time or insult you!

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +2 / -2

Now that you're done repeating yourself, would you care to try and answer any of the questions I asked to help you understand?

Question 1.

Does this prove that whatever conception they have for the entire forest (or entire world beyond it) is correct?

Question 2.

Said another way, can you be completely wrong about the shape of the entire world and still make it to the supermarket each day without any trouble? How many trips to the supermarket would it take before you realized (or were in any way affected) by your mistake?


THOUSANDS of times you leave your homes, and wind up where you wanted to be,

Right, just like the ants. You REALLY aren't following the analogy, are you?

I dunno how many times you're gonna leave the house and use SOLELY SPHERICAL COORDINATES to get where you're going,

The answer is most likely none. The vast majority of "ants" do not use spherical coordinates of any kind for travel.

You are fundamentally confusing maps with reality. Maps are tools for travel. They either work, or they don't. The conception of the ant can be completely wrong. As long as they get to the supermarket, it makes no impact to them. They continue to worship and believe their "coordinate system" blindly, and they never realize it's wrong because they are ants.

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +2 / -2

the GLOBAL NAVIGATION COORDINATES systems, LONGITUDE and LATITUDE,

Ants can travel incredible distances relative to their size, with extreme accuracy and repeatability. Does this prove that whatever conception they have for the entire forest (or entire world beyond it) is correct?

Said another way, can you be completely wrong about the shape of the entire world and still make it to the supermarket each day without any trouble? How many trips to the supermarket would it take before you realized (or were in any way affected) by your mistake?

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jack4455667788 1 point ago +3 / -2

If Earth is flat, Sun would light entire planet at once.

A common misconception. It is encouraged through the pseudoscience/mythology/religion of astronomy (the stupid and anti-physics view that light can and ought to travel forever/"astronomical" distances)

IF the world is flat, then everything we experience occurs on a flat earth. There is nighttime while it is daytime elsewhere. Do you understand what I mean?

If light is only partial then Sun must be right above Earth.

Again, there is no reason to assume this. There are many who measure and believe that this is the case (that the sun is much smaller and roughly 3000 miles above us).

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jack4455667788 2 points ago +4 / -2

Youtube and reddit is stupid. That is where you picked up that gem "flatters" that was not in any way designed to make you sound stupid.

If this were conpro, I might say, "there are no flatters, there is only globohomo" and you would understand.

There are no "flatties", they are primarily a contrived strawman stereotype (and controlled opposition psyop).

If you are interested in learning more about the shape of the world, please ama! I have been studying the subject, what I refer to as "flat earth research", for long enough to have figured a few things out!

Seriously, ask away!

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jack4455667788 -1 points ago +1 / -2

Ufos (and by that I mean flying sucers and related flying machine) are primarily clandestine surveillance craft first mass produced around the 40's. They are built by the same creature that builds every other flying machine in the known universe. Today, it is highly unlikely that they are under the control of any nation we know of.

Aliens exist only in fiction. That's where they come from originally/first, and that is where they still live today.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk. Please ama!

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jack4455667788 1 point ago +2 / -1

Built in 1970, the 447-foot-long span is rated in poor condition and is restricted to vehicles of up to 26 tons

That red bus is entirely responsible, it was almost certainly over that limit, especially with a decent load of passengers.

It looks like this was a fuck up of the transportation company.

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

That's what they all say, bub!

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jack4455667788 1 point ago +1 / -0

That is just what a robot cyborg whose brain was replaced with cyber-birds would say... ** suspicious gaze **

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