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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

What am I missing?

Nothing. You're right. The world is not perfectly flat, it's just mostly flat which is why we experience it that way (most especially thanks to water). It does have topography. Many use the word "level" instead, to try and avoid that issue. Language is imprecise.

The world is oriented level-ly. If that makes any sense to you. The world is planar and has topography on that plane, is another way to try and convey the same. It is also worth noting, that this is the case (demonstrably and experientially) regardless of the true shape of the world.

What I meant specifically, by your quoted statement was only to acknowledge that experiential reality. We don't experience a spherical world, we experience a (largely, and including topographical variance) flat one. This is also the reason that children almost all conceptualize (and draw) the world as a flat plane, before they are indoctrinated into other worldviews (under the guise of science and education).

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

Blablabla glow more.

You are using that word incorrectly. Do you even know what glowing is?

I am not a preach and i dont owe u nothing.

Nobody said you were, or that you did. Are you high/drunk?

I dont waste time with low faith glowies.

Again, that word you-a-keep using...

As for low faith, I am no faith. I might even have negative faith and cause the loss of it in others.

Faith is for fools. Blind faith most of all. Real faith is a different discussion, but I doubt you have any concept of what true faith is. God does not want brainless and stupid "believers". God wants you to KNOW him. Read your f*ing bible, or stay ignorant about your own beliefs. God has left the choice in your hands.

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jack4455667788 -1 points ago +1 / -2

The fbi doesn't pay people to help explain what the bible says to people who don't care enough about their faith to read it.

I always talk for myself. What do you do instead?

I just tell it like it is fren.

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jack4455667788 -1 points ago +1 / -2

Lol. How would you know?

If you don't want to just trust me, that's fair - but conrpo is not for everyone. Tread carefully fren.

Conpro is an abbreviation/contraction for consumeproduct. A "community" of sorts around here. It is positively radioactive, if you get my meaning.

Please do not misconstrue this as a recommendation to visit that "community".

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jack4455667788 2 points ago +4 / -2

If you are right, then god allowed them to destroy the temples.

He is not coming to save you, for the same reason he didn't save the temples.

God helps those who help themselves, and your "shield" is an encouraged fantasy.

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jack4455667788 1 point ago +3 / -2

Step 1 - eliminate slave base (i.e. quit your job)

Step 2 - work only for yourself to directly benefit yourself, your family, and your local community. No more careers, no more jobs, no more fleecing/theft. Only the work will remain.

Step 3 - no more profit???

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

Perhaps! What makes you think so?

I think many people feel that anyone who visits conspiracy (or perhaps .win in general) is "crazy", but you'd disagree with them - right?

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

Good answer! Perhaps it's better you don't know. Seriously.

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jack4455667788 2 points ago +3 / -1

Unfortunately explaining/dissecting jokes is a lot like vivisection. No one was ever that interested to begin with, and the joke dies.

For an example : It will be a very rude awakening when little sally goes to c/movies to find something entertaining to watch and gets mauled in the face/brain with "europa" or "zeitgeist". Likewise when granny goes to a conpro c/knitting. Oh to be a fly on those walls.

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

Beirut was destroyed by fertilizer

Ammonium nitrate is no joke. You do need a LOT of it though. I don't know what you are talking about regarding beirut, but this was the explosive fuel (not explosive proper) used at waco.

or that several World Trade Center buildings were turned to dust by airplanes

I doubt there are many around here that think that!

I suggest you return to the NYT and CNN

There you are, advertising bad things again... Tsk tsk.

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +2 / -2

I love this trend. It will be outrageously meta funny when some unsuspecting normie walks into the conpro created and moderated c/knitting and such things. Same applies to conspiracy created and moderated c/cooking.

They won't get the joke, but I will :)

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jack4455667788 3 points ago +5 / -2

+1 also reddit, facebook, snapchat, any "news" site or media company - god the list just goes on and on.

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

I’d assume you were joking

Truth is stranger than fiction. You have merely been misinformed.

who thinks the Earth is flat?

The earth is demonstrably and obviously flat ("level" is a more accurate word to use) on the scale in which we live and conduct all science. Not recognizing this is insane, and very sad.

You would benefit from discussing and exploring the subject further. Join us at the community I created specifically for the topic! It isn't at all what you think it is.

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

Contrary to what we're all supposed to believe,

You mean, for instance, that nuclear bombs are completely real and not at all propaganda that only exists on the television?

since Hiroshima and Nagasaki (which were fake)

Correct. Firebombing.

there have been many, many dozens of tactical nuclear strikes (which were all too real).

Nope. More fiction. Provide evidence please.

In fact, you can see the towering mushroom cloud of the preceding strike.

Mushroom clouds are caused by simple convection and pressure wave forces. They happen with all explosives, but the larger - the more obvious.

All of this is being very heavily suppressed.

And now, it is being advertised. By you. Tsk tsk.

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

Not really, no. I, like sagan, prefer a scientific approach to understanding the world.

The tagline of the community I created is : "Belief has no place in knowledge, especially scientific, and is directly across purposes to objective study of any kind (it's called "bias")"

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

Well I mean, you haven't really defined what you meant when you said we're not this "dot" in an "empty vacuum".

That's true!

I mean that I have evidence that we are not a dot in space, as the picture shows. The world is not "lost in space", nor are any of us. In fact, there is no "space" at all except in fiction (its clear, obvious, and largely undeniable historical origin).

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

So what do you reckon we are?

I reckon (and hope) we are human beings! But I am not sure I fully understand your question/meaning.

As for atlantis, in my view that is a very common myth and a re-telling of the noah myth (or vice versa). Atlantis was not a continent or an island, it was the entirety of the world. The circular system used to organize and structure that world is the origin of "leylines"/"dragon lines" and ultimately our modern long/lat. Just so we are clear, these are perspectives on mythology and history - and NOT science. It's tangential to the topic we are discussing at absolute best. Still interesting though!

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

Oh, we are most certainly on earth. I might be crazy, but I'm not that crazy!

I really am a heartfelt fan of sagan, and fellow lover of science. I detest simulationism the same way he would have if he had lived to see it.

Where do you hypothesize we are?

I am a bit of a stickler meseeks. I do not use the technical vernacular of science incorrectly, and I encourage others to do the same. Sadly, the colloquial definitions of those words that the vast majority of us learn are wrong. I don't have any hypothesis. I have a conclusion bore of exhaustive research and scientific (and the history thereof) study.

This is one reason I started the discussion in regards to evidence, not speculation (the colloquial and incorrect definition of hypothesis).

I have evidence to support that we are not on a "dot" in the cold vastness of "space". That the nature of the world and universe we are taught under the guise of science (from childhood) is in fact pseudoscience/religion and directly contradicts with science and scientific law.

As sagan would agree, if it isn't consistent with natural law or experiment - then it isn't science - it's wrong.

The posit that we are a small dot in an "infinite sky vacuum" is some of the most mind numbingly stupid mythology humanity has ever concocted. And that is a truly impressive achievement, considering the competition. It is also wholly incompatible with science.

The mythology, "taught" from childhood through rote under the guise of education and science, does not have no purpose or impact on society however...

What do you think? Any interest in learning more, or disagreeing? AMA!

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

Rock and roll!

First, let me say that sagan is right about what he is saying here - and nothing I am going to say below will alter that.

What would you say/think if I told you I had evidence that we are not, in fact, on that dot right there?

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jack4455667788 1 point ago +2 / -1

that dot... That’s here. That’s home. That’s us!

Do you have any interest in exploring this view further? It's well worth the time to do so! I created a community specifically for such discussion if you are at all interested!

I am a big sagan fan as well!

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

I mean the important element is that they are now reporting widespread HIV among people, while pushing HIV tests, etc etc I'm sire you've read it all.

They are reporting fear and panic, as they tend to. I haven't seen anything conclusive/convincing that hiv test rates are up. Have you?

When it boils down to it its another case of them getting ahead of the problem they created.

That is possible, they sure do that a lot! I also found the idea about it here intriguing and very possible as well : https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/141YbPfs2y/hiv-is-in-the-vaccine-reee--i-/c

Same as heart failure and such. They are confirming their own crimes at this point.

In many ways, you are likely correct.

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

I glanced at it, yes. I did see the "hiv molecular clamp".

However using hiv as a tool to make something isn't the same as including it in the final product (necessarily - though very likely to some small calculated percentage, anyhow).

Honestly, we don't know and they (pfizer, moderna, uncle sam, and the rest of the biopharmainsurance syndicate) essentially don't tell us what they put in the gene therapies, or how they made them (including tools used, like hiv potentially).

I just want to stress the important distinction between hiv and aids as it pertains to claims like this.

It is reasonably clear that the gene therapies (and all vaccines, yes - "traditional" ones) suppress the immune system causing, effectively, aids. To test for this, we have to do bloodwork (measuring the concentration of various immuno cells/serums). Bloodwork like this is expensive, and will not be covered under insurance.

An hiv test on the other hand is often free and readily available. It does not measure immune strength, the way an aids test would.

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +2 / -2

It is important to recognize the difference between an aids test and an hiv test.

It is true that some of the vaccinated (as I recall, with experimental vaccines that largely did not make it to market) were testing positive for hiv after the jab.

The "luc montagnier" meme I've seen going around mentions testing for aids - which is a completely different (though obviously somewhat related) claim.

This other claim is that the gene therapies weaken, suppress, and destroy the immune system causing aids (this is factual and true)

Certainly they COULD be one and the same, in the case that the hiv virus (should such a thing actually exist at all) or some part of its code was used in covid and/or the gene therapies criminally mismarketed as vaccines. Though this is only one possibility.

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