So you believe that the flat earth has no edge?
I try not to believe at all, and to either know or recognize that i do not know. Belief is the enemy of knowledge, and to objective study of any kind.
If the earth is flat, it may not have an edge - or perhaps it does and cannot be reached. Many speculative possibilities exist.
Describe in your own words how the earth is shaped and what surrounds it?
Like everyone else, i lack the verifiable data to make such an assessment for the entirety of the world with certainty. Of course i can make more local/limited assessments, however.
It is not spherical the way we are taught, and required to believe - nor is it whizzing through "space" at unfathomable speeds. The spherical world we are taught would require fantastic amounts of, essentially limitless, energy in order to constantly fight against the demonstrable laws of nature.
Some say it is surrounded by water, above and below. "Space" writ large has its origins, unquestionably, in fiction and is also a physical impossibility due to those same demonstrable laws. Nequaquam vacuum.
it does it itself rapidly when someone honestly looks into it.
Many flat earth researchers begin with the same thought. Proving the earth spherical should be easy right?
Diligent and honest/earnest research leads to the conclusion that "what shape is the earth and how can I prove it?" is a much more difficult question to answer than it first appears.
3 reasons (that i won't post it here, again)
- I've already done that, and i'm not going to waste more time on it.
- Tallestshil is a troll and his list of "questions" is merely a disearnest rhetorical trick akin to a gish gallop.
- The mods here would prefer this be a place for discussion of conspiracies. The shape of the world, and discussions thereof, is not a conspiracy. I created c/flatearthresearch specifically for discussions on this subject.
I literally quoted the definition from a dictionary.
That is interesting - was it a reputable dictionary? Which one? It was a terrible definition in any case.
But if you want to use the more specific term "scientific model" then I am even more correct
Where was the part of that (or your other one, for that matter) definition which mentioned using it for sailing?
Don't sweat it - we're all incorrect frequently. You get used to it - but refusing to acknowledge it causes great harm.
You’re pretty confident that water curves around a ball huh?
You must have me confused for someone else.
And you’re up in here calling people retards.
Never. I work very hard not to engage in ad hominem because it prevents/inhibits communication.
I'm called a retard (and worse) quite frequently though.
Why hasn't a Flat Earther traveled to the edge of the world and made pictures?
The same reasons you haven't.
Why hasn't a Flat Earther landed on the moon?
Ditto.
Model: a description or analogy used to help visualize something that cannot be directly observed.
That may be your personal definition, but is not the definition of that word in any context. Specifically, when discussing this topic - model means scientific model.
In any case, no models are used for sailing/traveling of any kind; your personal definition included.
Consult a dictionary
Practice what you preach! A flag is not a model either. Even if it were, you said it was "my model" which is also wrong.
So that's a horizontal drop of about 4 inches from the horizon that they have to account for.
Talk to an actual sniper. You are repeating nonsense. No sniper accounts, or needs to account, for any such thing. Even if such curvature existed, they don't need to adjust for it because they are never shooting blindly at targets hidden behind the horizon - that would be silly. Beyond that, other factors would be orders of magnitude more influential - like wind...
No, it’s a violation of policies for you to refuse to engage in discussion
No, it isn't - but as you already know from our lengthy "discussions" in the past, you miserable liar, i don't refuse any earnest discussion on one of my favorite subjects. Why on earth would I?
You cannot discuss the claim
What claim? I've discussed most everything on your list WITH YOU. You ignored the answers and still paste your copypasta and lie about it. You are not capable of discussion, either through willful disearnesty or literal programming (i.e. you are a bot).
Prove me wrong by answering the questions
I already have, check your post history.
No sailor uses a flat earth model to navigate.
No sailor uses ANY model to navigate. Models are not used for navigation.
Your model of the earth is literally the UN flag.
That isn't a model - that's a flag. You seem confused.
Snipers have to take earth curvature into account when they shoot.
Lol. Find a sniper and ask them this question. How far do you think snipers shoot anyway?!
Yeah it's a psyop. That's why there are so many videos from anon content creators
I describe them as agents and products of the flat earth psyop. Some are agents, some are products. Content creators have their own obvious motives - which ALSO have nothing to do with the shape of the world. There are many copycats.
The pysop is hitting you right in the face.
I agree - it is heavily advertised (i.e. heavily funded).
If you (or anyone) are at all earnestly interested in the answers to any and all questions regarding this subject, please join us on c/flatearthresearch.
Your questions are very common, and most all have trivial answers.
I've already done that.
Tallestshil is a bot who just regurgitates copypasta.
If you (or anyone) are at all earnestly interested in the answers to any and all questions regarding this subject, please join us on c/flatearthresearch.
LOL @ Definitely_a_Glowie/@Tallest_Fag/@JackAss
At least someone is entertained!
Flat Earth belief is religious, not rational.
Indeed, all belief is religious - very much including spherical earth belief (the norm, most likely your belief as well)
This is often exposed in the verbiage used when they are asked what shape they think the earth is ( ex. "I believe it's a sphere/spherical")
Said the flat Earther.
Another lie from the liar, big surprise.
Irony
I don't verbally attack or slander users. I call you a liar because you demonstrably are one, and repeatedly demonstrate it.
Get fucked, shill.
This is a violation of policies here. Perhaps a mod will explain it to you... again.
That is exactly what the flat earth psyop is intended to make you believe!
It's so retarded that it is NEVER worth your time to earnestly research. And even if you were to "swim upstream" and investigate anyway, the obfuscation from the offensively stupid and heavily advertised (i.e. funded) flat earth psyop would likely be what you first encountered (again, convincing you that there is nothing to the subject and no reason to dig deeper).
Much like the phrase "conspiracy theory/ist"; it is almost exclusively used to suppress and discredit ideas because they have merit.
The heavily advertised (i.e. funded) flat earth psyop is (obviously and by definition) a psyop.
The primary purpose of that psyop is to stop people from earnestly researching or discussing the subject because of how valuable it is.
It does this a variety of ways
- Portraying "flat earthers" (nomenclature and visage both products of the psyop) as impossibly/unrealistically stupid. You are meant to believe that people this stupid aren't worth considering, and therefore anything they say is to always be ignored.
- Loudly advertising demonstrably false claims. This supports #1 but also convinces some earnest wayward researchers to pick them up and repeat them. It's a method of "seeding strawmen". In the frightfully simplistic mind of the "debunker" and audience - 1 wrong claim = all wrong claims.
- Encouraging (false) antagonism and enmity between a false dichotomy of "globers" vs "flerfers" (childish and inherently stupid derogatories like this are also products of the psyop). As long as they are enemies and squabling like children - they can't collaborate or effectively share knowledge / communicate.
ya, maybe, i see his other comments...FE is super trigger for him
I doubt it. He's/it's full troll, no genuine emotion or action whatsoever - also indicative of a bot. I've attempted to communicate with them at extreme and tedious length.
They can't read or parse responses, so instead they respond as if they are having a conversation with the voices in their head / script copy.
As i said, i sincerely hope - for their sake - that they are a bot.
[refuses to answer the questions]
I simply answered them already. Don't you remember? Check your post history.
Reported
A bot and a tattle tale who waste's mods' time with nonsense...
In your deluded estimation - what community rule could you possibly think i've broken? It's not like i am constantly lying or verbally attacking/slandering users (ad hominem) and calling for their immediate suicide... God (and the mods) only knows why you are still allowed to be here after your endless policy violations.
Fair enough.
Do you have a link handy (to them making this claim / providing this map and claiming it was correct for the route in question)?
HEY THERE, OTHER CONFIRMED PAID SHILL
Hey there, lunatic. Screaming "PAID SHILL" incessantly is not confirming anything but your own fantasy and bias/prejudice.
As for your trivial to answer copypasta, look up the answers i gave you the last time you pasted them - back when i was still silly enough to believe you weren't a liar and/or a bot.
Tallestshil is most certainly a liar, and i hope - for their sake - a bot.
According to Flat Earthers,
There are no flat earthers, but even if there were - they wouldn't all believe/claim the same thing. Earnest flat earth researchers are largely independent. No bibles, no churches, and no colleges for them to be conditioned by rote under the guise of education/enlightenment and then all parrot the same things.
According to who? It seems you are making up a strawman claim.
I don't remember flying via Norway and Siberia. Care to explain?
Most likely options are
- The strawman map above is wrong.
- You didn't fly in a perfectly straight line.
Neither have anything to do with the shape of the earth or to determining it.
I've blocked you
:( Insulting and then running away is what little children do. If you ever grow up - you know where to find me.
There is no point in speaking with a retard
Did you really think you were speaking with someone at any point? What you were doing is called “talking” (vapid insult mostly) at someone.
Every single sentence you wrote, lacks grammar, lacks formulation
Don’t generalize. Be specific. Provide examples. These are just good suggestions to effectively communicate in the future.
Only a retard could ever understand it
Are you really so embarrassed that you couldn’t understand it that you have to believe that the only one that ever could is the “retard” who wrote it? Are you truly so proud and vain that you can’t bring yourself to ask a single question about something you didn’t understand?
Anyway, i wish you well. My advice above and strewn throughout my responses you ignored / didn’t understand is for your benefit - and in no way an attack.
Read your grammatical structure
Don’t generalize. Be specific.
Give an example of this “grammatical structure” that you couldn’t understand. I’m happy to explain what i meant if you don’t understand, but you need to ask specific questions in order for me to do that.
No I am not emotional
It’s not me you need to convince... I know you don’t want to be emotional, but your behavior speaks for itself. Start acting the way you want to be perceived. Take a deep breath.
But I am calling you a retard
Ad hominem is the last resort of the intellectually feeble. They attack the thinker out of desperation because they aren’t competent to attack the thought. Do better if you can. Spewing childish (and meaningless) insult only demonstrates your weakness and inability to control your emotions.
At what point have you offered any argument?
None. Argument is for fools. I only seek earnest discussion.
It's an emotional retard spazzing
That’s good - identifying your problem is the first step in doing something about it. No need to “attack” and keep spazzing. Just calm down, and try using your words to have a conversation - or be silent.
No we won't go there.
Who do you think you are talking to? The voices in your head are not your friends. There is only us - no one else is reading this.
Belief is a placeholder for knowledge. If you do not know, acutely, and know how you know (i.e. have validated that knowledge rigorously) then you merely believe. "I "know" because teacher told me so."
The vast majority (>99%) of humanity do not know what the shape of the world is, or how to determine/validate that knowledge. They merely believe and repeat as they are required to (through conditioning by rote under the guise of education, from childhood).
Just because knowledge is common doesn't make it in any way correct/accurate. This is as true today as it is historically. Common knowledge is largely junk, and truth is not a democracy (thank god).