ATTENTION: Calling all Flat Earther FREAKS!!!
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I am sure that humanity is always stupid and wrong historically, and requires no help for it. We do it all on our own - no conspiracies necessary.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying that there couldn’t be or isn’t a conspiracy (unbelievably large/long, or much more limited/small) to do as you suggest - just that one isn’t necessary/needed. If the world were flat and everyone believed it round, that would not require any conspiracy. If stars were not suns, and instead were lights in the sky of a totally different nature - once again, it would require no conspiracy. Humanity is always stupid and wrong, and we consistently teach those wrong and stupid beliefs (under the guise of “fact” and “science” no less), en masse, from childhood.
Firstly, everyone is - it’s a human characteristic caused by our “rational” minds. Recognizing it is simple, but an objective external analysis can often help to identify it better than we can internally. Cognitive dissonance is simply holding two or more paradoxical/mutually exclusive/contradictory views simultaneously. Nothing more. A common one is believing they are a law abiding citizen and then speeding. Everyone has cognitive dissonance, it is completely painless, and often invisible to the experiencer (without careful introspection, and/or external help).
Lol. Of course not. History is largely stories/mythology. However, it is reasonable to both study and learn from it. Are you suggesting that people aren’t most often wrong and stupid (today and/or in the past) without any external help/conspiracy?
I think they have been encouraged to think such things through advertising and the myth of progress (modernism and modern “education” pushes this vain belief that we are better and smarter now. we simply couldn’t be wrong about such things because we are so evolved and educated compared to our primitive ancestors). What they misunderstand is that every generation has thoughts like this, and believes they have the truth with very little, if any doubt. That is always the norm, and they are always wrong. If they don’t have an answer, they make one up - the basis of almost all mythology, a lot of which is masquerading as science today. This biological proclivity is connected to that cognitive dissonance. What we cannot rationalize, the brain requires rationalization for, so we “fill in the gaps” with just about anything in order to feel better about our ignorance. This very much includes things which contradict other things we already believe/know.
It reminds me of a twain quote and a song lyric with a similar message : “You’ve been educated stupid. And are too dumb to notice. Or maybe just too evil to care.”
We believe LOTS of nonsense as a result of that “education” (really conditioning, by rote, under the guise of education - from childhood), but it also doesn’t really require a conspiracy. People (most of them anyway) teach what they believe (even and perhaps especially when wrong) primarily because they believe it.
Absolutely. And this unquestionably goes on - seen contemporarily and historically. However, it doesn’t - in and of itself - require a conspiracy concerning the shape of the world.
It certainly can, arguably should - but in my view it does not necessarily involve mass conspiracy. Claims of it requiring mass conspiracy/ being “conspiracy theory” are pushed, disingenuously by the heavily advertised (i.e. heavily funded) flat earth psyop specifically to suppress and prevent people from seriously discussing/researching the valuable subject. Claims of “conspiracy theory” only have that one purpose - discrediting/suppression.
The shape of the world is not a conspiracy, nor is one required for most everyone to be wrong about it. Claims of conspiracy are primarily a distraction from an extremely valuable subject to study.
I work very hard not to believe. Belief is the enemy of knowledge, and to the possibility of objective study of any kind (it’s called bias).
It might require a conspiracy to hide the nature of reality - but not to simply be wrong about it nor to spread those wrong views. Being wrong is the default, and we do it without any help.
As for the ice continent, that is merely a speculation (and one that does not have much support). The world’s shape does not depend on the shape of any continent. It is a popular red herring and erroneous conflation pushed by the flat earth psyop. Antarctica can be the shape and size it is believed by most to be, and the world can still be flat (and vice versa). They have no dependency on one another.
You misunderstand. The smartest people who have ever lived, including today, were all wrong. Wrong does not equal stupid. There is no shame in being wrong - as i said, it’s our default. Beyond that, stupid is not an archetype, but an aspect of humanity. We are all stupid too.
Most people never give this subject any serious thought at all. They merely believe and repeat as they were conditioned to do, by rote under the guise of education from childhood. You might call that stupid, but i mostly call it gullible/trusting and victimized.
Perhaps. I’m not sure how much our worldviews differ. I expect they are more similar than you currently expect - but i could be wrong, and we are just beginning to exchange them!
I don’t discount the possibility/reality of a soul, but if it truly allowed connection to infinite knowledge - i don’t think we would be so consistently wrong all the time. I don’t have this infinite knowledge, and i have never known anyone who did.
I’m not sure on this one (assuming you mean “devolve”). The bible certainly describes it, unambiguously, that way. Adam was perfect and it was all downhill from there (until the blip with jesus, and then right back to downhill again).
In any case, i was not describing “devolution”. I was just saying that by default, we are stupid and wrong as a species and as individuals. We are not preprogrammed with the correct answers - sadly.
What is THAT programming that i have not rejected?
Cognitive dissonance doesn’t hinder or prevent new (contradictory or otherwise) knowledge. Cognitive dissonance is itself caused by accepting contradictory knowledge. You are talking about “intellectual inertia”, “conditioning”, “appeal to authority”, “sunken cost”, and the inability to think and learn for themselves (autodidacticism).
Agreed. That comes from the top down (authoritarian).
Perhaps. I think the existence of the heavily advertised (i.e. heavily funded) flat earth psyop itself suggests that it isn’t. The woman doth protest too much.
It is the duty of us who see the truth/have knowledge, to share it with others. There is much work to be done, hope or not.
No problem (or obligation to respond!).
It’s a subject i like to discuss and explore/exchange views on, and i’m in no hurry.
Thanks for the update.