Wouldn't you think the highest intelligence would use very punctuated demonstrations of his power and would be able to appear in any form anytime he wished, once people recognize that the form is not the whole being?>
No, I don’t believe the higher power is not anthropomorphic in any way and I don’t believe it is personal at all. I don’t believe it is interactive in the sense that it would reach out to humans if you know what I mean. I believe it to be more like something humans have to raise themselves up to or find within. The connection with it is strictly one way - humans to it, not it to humans.
Did you want to look at specific Scriptures Jesus upheld to see if they actually say all the nations that don't serve Israel would be utterly wasted? Seems like the literalist Christians are just fine with them, as if they might not say what you think. I mean, your idea that he called Gentiles dogs and swine as if racial seems just as invalid as others' idea that he called Jews vipers and foxes as if racial. So you may need to work with the text a bit to see if we read texts the same way.>
Jesus upheld ALL of the scriptures. Where He deviated from them he mostly only done so to make them even more restrictive or weakening than they previously were, such as where he declared that adultery is committed if a man even so much as looks at a woman lustfully, or where he encouraged his audience (Jews by the way) to submit themselves to enemies and even to love them.
If we pretend that Jesus was real for a moment then nothing that he said should remotely lead you to believe that he cares for you if you are a non-Jew. The Great Commission is acknowledged to be a centuries later addition to the gospels. Jesus was clear and explicit that he was only there for the Israelites and instructed his disciples to stay away from the gentiles. In the sermon on the Mount he used gentiles as the example to his Jewish audience of what NOT to be like. Jesus did say that it is not appropriate to take the children’s (Jews) bread and cast it to the dogs (gentiles). Only deigning to the woman when she acknowledged her status as a comparative dog. When Jesus spoke against the Pharisees and Sadducees, this was an intra-Jewish critique, not a critique of Jews at large - because the Jews were his sole interest.
It’s a similar misunderstanding as that which occurs in the book of revelation whereby a lot of people misinterpret the passages about Jews who say they are Jews but are not, and Jews who are Jews in name only, as being about Jews at large. Whereas it is nothing of the sort - it is rebuking only ‘fake’ Jews ie Christian’s
Ugh, Jesus is one of their principal Psychological control mechanisms over the ‘sheepI’. How can you not see that?
How can you not see by Jesus own alleged words that he hates your guts if you are not an Israelite? You are a ‘dog’ and ‘swine’ And he is to rule in the midst of Israel’s enemies (ie from Rome) in order to cause bloodshed etc.
Jesus didn’t come to abolish the law or the prophets but to fulfill and not one jot or title shall pass until all be fulfilled - so that includes the nations that don’t serve Israel being utterly wasted as per Isaiah and plenty more anti-goy plans besides.
You need to eat his flesh and drink his blood - what’s wrong with that?
Remember, you are feted to foreswear your own ancestors in favour of the Israelites because you heard that god is with them.
So accept the messiah they conjured up for you and agree to eat the flesh and drink the blood, heathen!
I believe there’s definitely a higher intelligence yes. But it’s certainly not Yahweh/Jesus/Allah. I don’t believe that any anthropomorphisation is accurate. So, no Krishna either but DEFINITELY not the racially supremacist Abrahamic nonsense
I don’t trust the Bible as a trusted source because the Bible is fairly explicit in its outcomes - that all mains and peoples shall be subservient to the Israelites ie Jews which is what you see unfolding in the modern world. I think that those who see the Bible as a trusted source are subject to trust most fundamental lie. The ‘god’ that you speak of, declared himself god over only one race and decreed that they alone should have sovereignty and stewardship over all other races. He acknowledged the existence of other gods and even declared his tactics to ruin empires and overthrow other cultures and these were so successful that you have people in the modern day swearing fealty to a hostile foreign god and declaring him ‘god’ above all others. Until the god of Israel (ie biblical god) is eradicated from consciousness, I don’t believe there is any push back to true free will
only insofar as Jews actually do run everything and actually do have us enslaved and worshipping their god. Thats the best objective metric for the truth of the bible - that we already ARE the servants of Jews and that they are the 'light of the nations' ie they rule over us indirectly and that their god has somehow successfully replaced our own.
Remember they prophesied that the nations would foreswear their own ancestors and grab the hem of their garments saying 'God is with you'.
Yeah, they certainly brought that about. But through cunning rather than anything divine. Still, prophecy fulfilled.
The difference is, some of us are NOT suffering from Stockholm syndrome about it...
and just a few short verses later...
They Shall Be My People; I Will Be Their God Jer 32:36 And now therefore thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel, concerning this city, whereof ye say, It shall be delivered into the hand of the king of Babylon by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence; Jer 32:37 Behold, I will gather them out of all countries, whither I have driven them in mine anger, and in my fury, and in great wrath; and I will bring them again unto this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely: Jer 32:38 And they shall be my people, and I will be their God: Jer 32:39 And I will give them one heart, and one way, that they may fear me for ever, for the good of them, and of their children after them: Jer 32:40 And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.
Jesus said many times over that he has only come for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. He wanted nothing to do with the non-israelites.
In fact, he used 'gentiles' as as an example of what NOT to be in the Sermon on the Mount and when he sent his apostles out, he gave them the explicit instruction to stay away from gentiles. So, all the words of Jesus which you think are so beautiful and full of salvation etc are not FOR you - they are exlusively for Israel
Abraham is the ancestor of Israel. It's an ancestral myth and doesn't expand gods portfolio of people whatsoever. God clearly states many times throughout the bible that he only the god of israel and he clearly has a hateful, disdainful view of all the peoples and nations who are not israel.
this is not an elite research forum - its turned into a bit of a christian echo-chamber populated by just a tint handful of the same people.
If it were really elite research then how come you just adopt all the brainless interpretations of the bible that have been handed to you, rather than having read the thing yourself and uncovered the obvious...?!?!
Abraham Isaac and Jacob - all a precursor to Israel.
This Jewish ancestral myth doesn't incorporate anyone other than Israel. God says he is EXCLUSIVELY the god of israel and all us other nations and people can either serve his people, lick the dust off their feet, or perish
to be a christian is to be a 'jew who says they are a jew but are not, and do lie'. To be a christian is to be a 'jew in name only' and one of those pretenders whom Jesus in the book of Revelation had such disdain for. Jews and muslims would count as these false jews.
No it doesn’t.
It’s not ‘The Jews’ who killed Jesus but a sect of them. The entire Bible story is Jewish. Romans and other gentiles have cameos. The only people Jesus addressed were his fellow Jews, sit from some notable exceptions which only prove the rule.
The Bible does NOT tell you to rebel against the world. Jesus said give to Caesar what is Caesars and what does Paul say on Romans 13:1.
Calling believers in Christ the chosen ones is just a continuation of the Old Testament referring to Jews as the chosen. This is because is it - Jesus only ministered to Jews and he instructed his disciples to stay away from the non Jews. It is only because of Paul that loads of gentiles were hoodwinked into accepting the god of Israel as their own and the Jewish messiah as somehow being their own too.
However, nowhere in the Old Testament and in none of Jesus direct sayings will you be able to find any mention that they are remotely interested in anybody other than the Jews.