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AnimalsOverHumans 1 point ago +2 / -1

Ahahhhahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Is this new, or old?

Not surprised.

Mods need to pin this!

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AnimalsOverHumans 0 points ago +1 / -1

You are a retarded FED whore, will short attention span, and low IQ. Probably a welfare goblin who pretends to be a dissident to this degenerate system.

We all know that Zyclon B was produced by IG Farben BUT who owned IG Farben at the time?

Quotes from WALL ST AND THE RISE OF HITLER

Farben was Hitler and Hitler was Farben. (Senator Homer T. Bone to Senate Committee on Military Affairs, June 4, 1943.)

German bankers on the Farben Aufsichsrat (the supervisory Board of Directors)1 in the late 1920s included the Hamburg banker Max Warburg, whose brother Paul Warburg was a founder of the Federal Reserve System in the United States. Not coincidentally, Paul Warburg was also on the board of American I. G, Farben’s wholly owned U.S. subsidiary. In addition to Max Warburg and Hermann Schmitz, the guiding hand in the creation of the Farben empire, the early Farben Vorstand included Carl Bosch, Fritz ter Meer, Kurt Oppenheim and George von Schnitzler.2 All except Max Warburg were charged as “war criminals” after World War II.

The full story of I.G. Farben and its worldwide activities before World War II can never be known, as key German records were destroyed in 1945 in anticipation of Allied victory.

In 1939, out of 43 major products manufactured by I.G., 28 were of “primary concern” to the German armed forces.

One of the more prominent of these Farben intelligence workers in N.W. 7 was Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, who joined Farben in the early 1930s after completion of an 18-month period of service in the black-uniformed S.S

The U.S. War Department also accused I. G. Farben and its American associates of spearheading Nazi psychological and economic warfare programmes through dissemination of propaganda via Farben agents abroad, and of providing foreign exchange for this Nazi propaganda. Farben’s cartel arrangements promoted Nazi economic warfare — the outstanding example being the voluntary Standard Oil of New Jersey restriction on development of synthetic rubber in the United States at the behest of I. G. Farben.

In 1945 Dr. Oskar Loehr, deputy head of the I.G. “Tea Buro,” confirmed that I. G. Farben and Standard Oil of New Jersey operated a “preconceived plan” to suppress development of the synthetic rubber industry in the United States, to the advantage of the German Wehrmacht and to the disadvantage of the United States in World War II.

Who were the prominent Wall Street establishment financiers who directed the activities of American I.G, the I.G. Farben affiliate in the United States promoting Nazi propaganda?

Directors of American I.G. were not only prominent in Wall Street and American industry but more significantly were drawn from a few highly influential institutions. (See chart above.) (1)Federal Reserve Bank of New Yord (2)Ford Motor Company (3)Bank of Manhatan (4)Standard Oil N Jersey

Several basic observations can be made from this evidence. First, the board of American I.G. had three directors from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, the most influential of the various Federal Reserve Banks. American I.G. also had interlocks with Standard Oil of New Jersey, Ford Motor Company, Bank of Manhattan (later to become the Chase Manhattan), and A.E.G. (German General Electric). Second, three members of the board of this American I.G. were found guilty at Nuremberg War Crimes Trials. These were the German, not the American, members. Among these Germans was Max Ilgner, director of the I.G. Farben N. W. 7 office in Berlin, i.e., the Nazi pre-war intelligence office. If the directors of a corporation are collectively responsible for the activities of the corporation, then the American directors should also have been placed on trial at Nuremberg, along with the German directors — that is, if the purpose of the trials was to determine war guilt. Of course, if the purpose of the trials had been to divert attention away from the U.S, involvement in Hitler’s rise to power, they succeeded very well in such an objective.

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AnimalsOverHumans 1 point ago +2 / -1

So.. Put your faith in the mainstream lies instead?

no, only in principles. Because if you take sides, then lets say your hero NOW, might become your enemy tomorrow. but if you only consider principles, then you will know who is your enemy and who isnt.

for example take Trumpa Lumpa. He was a hero to lots of ppl, then he backstabbed them with Assange, with the covid lockdowns, with the vaccine, with jan 6. etc etc...

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AnimalsOverHumans 1 point ago +1 / -0

Did I mention the Rothschilds in any way shape or form? I said Wall Street. Are you a bot who scans the posts and replies to the general theme of the post and not the specifics? Fuckign idiot. Like a dog that barks at everything. You need to be put down.

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AnimalsOverHumans 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hitler's Secret Backers is a book first published in 1933, from an pseudononymous author who used the name of SIDNEY WARBURG. The book has insider knowledge on Wall St. financing Hitler, the background and the reason why and what Wall St expected from Hitler. The principal theory is that this book was created by either France, Russia or other government or faction of government (even USA why not) who knew Wall St was financing Hitler and preparing him for war, and wanted to prevent it. This obviously failed.

One thing to mention is that this book was pulled away from libraries and shops only a few days after it was published. But 3 copies survived, and one of the copies (the original book was published in Dutch!) was translated to German, and from this german translation it was translated into English.

I discovered this book only few days ago, from reading WALL ST AND THE RISE OF HITLER by A C. Sutton. He has an entire chapter on this book. Here you can see some quotes/fragments from this chapter: https://scored.co/c/Conspiracies/p/15JnYrQl1s/roundtable-discussion-hitler-and/c/4OeznJ9xxD6

Wikipedia also has a page on the book. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Warburg

This is the link where to download the book in pdf. Click GET. http://library.lol/main/9E3D4329ADA5FB24C581ED57D9F59BE4

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AnimalsOverHumans 2 points ago +2 / -0

I just want to give my 2 cents.

I fully agree that people, especially if you believe to be a smart person, should stop watching the day to day political theatre, because it is all useles. Sure, you must scan the news in order to see the general pattern, but debating the stupid theatrics everyday or every week is something only children and imbeciles who cant see trends do...

Now, I take issue with the "Marxist" characterisation. This is not because Marxism is good, or because I'm pro Marxism, but this sort of term implies in the mind of the reader that the what he knows as the "opposite" must surely be good, aka he reflectively thinks that someone who attacks Marxism must be good. This is WRONG.

First of all, because the same ppl that financed the Marxist-communist political systems also financed National-Socialism, and also finance both sides of every fucking conflict all over the world. They also finance BLM, the alt-right, your average cuckservative, and demoncrap politician (there are exceptions!)... What you have to support, is ONLY PRINCIPLES. NEVER SUPPORT SIDES.

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AnimalsOverHumans 1 point ago +1 / -0

I suggest not consider up or downvotes in here. Lots of manipulation. He probably has posted something in nazi central CP forum and they all raided the thread. Or he has multiple alt accounts.

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AnimalsOverHumans 2 points ago +2 / -0

A reply to someone who asked me if Hitler was a Nationalist of a Jew Puppet.

A nationalist who was financed by Wall Street. Hence, all the absurd decisions he made during the war. Not fucking destroying England when he had the chance, after pushing them back the first time.

You are gullible if you think revolutions happen with miracles. Those guns, uniforms, people are all bought with money. You think a big part of those nazis fighting in Ukraine are really patriots? Some of them surly are... Patriots fighting for a corrupt degenerate cocainoman jew like Zelensky, but most of them, especially the mercenaries are paid, very very well. And apart from this, even assuming they are all Ukrainian patriots, the war isnt fought with sticks and stones, but with high tech weapons, and they cost money.

The war in Ukraine is the perfect demonstration of what I'm saying and what suppresed historical facts say. That revolutions are never genuine. People are always mostly apathetic, especially in modern times. Everything is a rich man's trick. The alt-fake-right, is a jew invention.

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AnimalsOverHumans 1 point ago +1 / -0

A nationalist who was financed by Wall Street. Hence, all the absurd decisions he made during the war. Not fucking destroying England when he had the chance, after pushing them back the first time.

You are gullible if you think revolutions happen with miracles. Those guns, uniforms, people are all bought with money. You think a big part of those nazis fighting in Ukraine are really patriots? Some of them surly are... Patriots fighting for a corrupt degenerate cocainoman jew like Zelensky, but most of them, especially the mercenaries are paid, very very well. And apart from this, even assuming they are all Ukrainian patriots, the war isnt fought with sticks and stones, but with high tech weapons, and they cost money.

The war in Ukraine is the perfect demonstration of what I'm saying and what suppresed historical facts say. That revolutions are never genuine. People are always mostly apathetic, especially in modern times. Everything is a rich man's trick. The alt-fake-right, is a jew invention.

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AnimalsOverHumans 1 point ago +1 / -0

You clearly don't know what a straw man is. I said Hitler was financed by Wall St.. And he was. And you didn't even try to refute that point, but went totally on another point.

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AnimalsOverHumans -4 points ago +2 / -6

It is. See my contributions in the current Roundtable Discussion, aka pinned post on top of this forum.

Hitler was financed by Wall St.

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AnimalsOverHumans 3 points ago +3 / -0

This book and its contents have a wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Warburg But NOT strangely enough, Sutton is never mentioned in the Wikipedia page.

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AnimalsOverHumans 4 points ago +4 / -0

Quotes from CHAPTER TEN: The Myth of “Sidney Warburg” (from WALL ST AND THE RISE OF HITLER)

The question posed in this chapter is the accusation that some Wall Street financiers (the Rockefellers and Warburgs specifically have been accused) directly planned and financed Hitler’s takeover in 1933, and that they did this from Wall Street. On this question the so-called myth of “Sidney Warburg” is relevant. Prominent Nazi Franz von Papen has stated in his Memoirs-.3

. . . the most documented account of the National Socialists’ sudden acquisition of funds was contained in a book published in Holland in 1933, by the old established Amsterdam publishing house of Van Holkema & Warendorf, called De Geldbronnen van Het Nationaal-Socialisme (Drie Gesprekken Met Hitler) under the name “Sidney Warburg.”

A book with this title in Dutch by “Sidney Warburg” was indeed published in 1933, but remained on the bookstalls in Holland only for a matter of days. The book was purged.4 One of three surviving original copies was translated into English. The translation was at one time deposited in the British Museum, but is now withdrawn from public circulation and is unavailable for research. Nothing is now known of the original Dutch copy upon which this English translation was based. The Second Dutch copy.... The third Dutch copy found its way to Switzerland and was translated into German. The German translation has survived down to the present day in the Schweizerisches Sozialarchiv in Zurich, Switzerland. A certified copy of the authenticated German translation of this Swiss survivor was purchased by the author in 1971 and translated into English. It is upon this English translation of the German translation that the text in this chapter is based.

Publication of the “Sidney Warburg” book was duly reported in the New York Times (November 24, 1933) under the title “Hoax on Nazis Feared.”

What does the book report? What does the book claim happened in Germany in the early 1930s? And do these events have any resemblance to facts we know to be true from other evidence?

A Synopsis of the Suppressed “Sidney Warburg” Book

The Financial Sources of National Socialism opens with an alleged conversation between “Sidney Warburg” and joint author/translator J. G. Shoup. “Warburg” relates why he was handing Shoup an English language manuscript for translation into Dutch and publication in Holland.

The first section of the book is entitled simply “1929.” It relates that in 1929 Wall Street had enormous credits outstanding in Germany and Austria, and that these claims had, for the most part, been frozen. ... In June 1929, a meeting took place between the members of the Federal Reserve Bank and leading American bankers to decide what to do about France, and particularly to check her call on German reparations. This meeting was attended (according to the “Warburg” book) by the directors of Guaranty Trust Company, the “Presidents” of the Federal Reserve Banks, in addition to five independent bankers, “young Rockefeller,” and Glean from Royal Dutch Shell. Carter and Rockefeller according to the text “dominated the proceedings. The others listened and nodded their heads.

The general concensus at the bankers’ meeting was that the only way to free Germany from French financial clutches was by revolution, either Communist or German Nationalist.

In return for preferred financial support, Hitler would be expected to conduct an “aggressive foreign policy and stir up the idea of revenge against France.” This policy, it was anticipated, would result in a French appeal to the United States and England for assistance in “international questions involving the eventual German aggression.” Hitler was not to know about the purpose of Wall Street’s assistance. It would be left “to his reason and resourcefulness to discover the motives behind the proposal.”

few weeks after Warburg’s return from Europe the Hearst newspapers showed “unusual interest” in the new German Nazi Party and even the New York Times carried regular short reports of Hitler’s speeches. Previously these newspapers had not shown too much interest, but that now changed.6 Also, in December 1929 a long study of the German National Socialist movement appeared “in a monthly publication at Harvard University.”

Part II of the suppressed “Financial Sources of National Socialism” is entitled “1931” and opens with a discussion of French influence on international politics. It avers that Herbert Hoover promised Pierre Laval of France not to resolve the debt question without first consulting the French government and [writes Shoup]: When Wall Street found out about this Hoover lost the respect of this circle at one blow. Even the subsequent elections were affected — many believed that Hoover’s failure to get re-elected can be traced back to the issue.7

In the next Warburg-Hitler meeting, Hitler argued that “the Soviets cannot miss our industrial products yet. We will give credit, and if I am not able to deflate France myself, then the Soviets will help me.” Hitler said he had two plans for takeover in Germany: (a) the revolution plan, and (b), the legal takeover plan. The first plan would be a matter of three months, the second plan a matter of three years. Hitler was quoted as saying, “revolution costs five hundred million marks, legal takeover costs two hundred million marks—what will your bankers decide?” After five days a cable from Guaranty Trust arrived for Warburg and is cited in the book as follows: Suggested amounts are out of the question. We don’t want to and cannot. Explain to man that such a transfer to Europe will shatter financial market. Absolutely unknown on international territory. Expect long report, before decision is made. Stay there. Continue investigation. Persuade man of impossible demands. Don’t forget to include in report own opinion of possibilities for future of man.

Warburg cabled his report back to New York and three days later received a second cablegram reading: Report received. Prepare to deliver ten, maximum fifteen million dollars. Advise man necessity of aggression against foreign danger.

The $15 million was accepted for the legal takeover road, not for the revolutionary plan. The money was transferred from Wall Street to Hitler via Warburg as follows—$5 million to be paid at Mendelsohn & Company, Amsterdam; $5 million at the Rotterdamsche Bankvereinigung in Rotterdam; and $5 million at “Banca Italiana.”

The third section of “Financial Sources of National Socialism” is entitled simply “1933.” The section records “Sidney Warburg’s” third and last meeting with Hitler — on the night the Reichstag was burned.

At this meeting Hitler informed Warburg of Nazi progress towards legal takeover. Since 1931 the Nationalist Socialist party had tripled in size. Massive deposits of weapons had been made near the German border in Belgium, Holland, and Austria — but these weapons required cash payments before delivery. Hitler asked for a minimum of 100 million marks to take care of the final step in the takeover programme. Guaranty Trust wired Warburg offering $7 million at most, to be paid as follows — $2 million to the Renania Joint Stock Company in Düsseldorf (the German branch of Royal Dutch), and $5 million to other banks. Warburg reported this offer to Hitler, who requested the $5 million should be sent to the Banca Italiana in Rome and (although the report does not say so) presumably the other $2 million was paid to Düsseldorf. The book concludes with the following statement from Warburg: I carried out my assignment strictly down to the last detail. Hitler is dictator of the largest European country. The world has now observed him at work for several months. My opinion of him means nothing now. His actions will prove if he is bad, which I believe he is. For the sake of the German people I hope in my heart that I am wrong. The world continues to suffer under a system that has to bow to a Hitler to keep itself on its feet. Poor world, poor humanity.

What would be the motive behind such a book?

The only motive that seems acceptable is that the unknown author had knowledge a war was in preparation and hoped for a public reaction against the Wall Street fanatics and their industrialist friends in Germany—before it was too late. Clearly, whoever wrote the book, his motive almost certainly was to warn against Hitlerian aggression and to point to its Wall Street source, because the technical assistance of American companies controlled by Wall Street was still needed to build Hitler’s war machine. The Standard Oil hydrogenation patents and financing for the oil from coal plants, the bomb sights, and the other necessary technology had not been fully transferred when the “Sidney Warburg” book was written. Consequently, this could have been a book designed to break the back of Hitler’s supporters abroad, to inhibit the planned transfer of U.S. war-making potential, and to eliminate financial and diplomatic support of the Nazi state. If this was the goal, it is regrettable that the book failed to achieve any of these purposes.

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AnimalsOverHumans 2 points ago +2 / -0

You have trash logic. Here's why!

You can already copy and paste a paragraph of something and you will easily find the source. AI/software can do this automatically, with no effort. And can do this for all paragraphs, or sentences in an article. Furthermore, linguists, or even experienced writters and editors, who are well read and study language deeply, know and are able to discriminate different styles of writtings. AI/software can do this better, and faster. So, searching for a match among say 10million ppl (overestimate of English speaking high profile, courageous informed journalists/activists in the entire world) is a very very easy task.

Btw, we are not talking about the average person, much like yourself, who writes a logically deficient sentence on some obscure forum.

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AnimalsOverHumans 2 points ago +2 / -0

This type of software only comes to use in those cases of journalists/writers who have a very good OP SEC, aka they can't be traced or spied upon. Hence arises the problem of identifying them in other ways.

But, generally the CIA/NSA etc, don't need that type of software for 99.9% of people. They aready know your beliefs, convictions, what you like, what makes you angry, what addictions you have, your fetishes, if you can be corrupted by power, money or status etc

And I'm sure they have other software to create propaganda geared at certain sections of a population in order to divert their attention, manipulate them emotionally etc. These tools are used in these so called modern revolutions, see ARAB SPRING, where they use social media algorithms, to manipulate and feed certain true or false info to the users and incite in them a certain needed emotional state that would make them more helpful, or indifferent to CIA agents overthowing their government.

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AnimalsOverHumans 4 points ago +4 / -0

Antony C Sutton: Wall Street and the rise of Hitler & communism --- Interview with Doctor Anthony C Sutton on his research about the funding of Nazi party and of Soviet communists by a group of American and European financiers and industrialists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sah_Xni-gtg

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AnimalsOverHumans 5 points ago +5 / -0

[2 of 6] The Best Enemies Money Can Buy - Dr. Antony Sutton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7dLTAL3v5E

Prof. Sutton goes into his impeccable research on how a close-knit group of Western financiers and industrialists (centered around Morgan and Rockefeller in the US, and around Milner and the City financiers, in the UK) created and sustained their three supposed enemies right from the very beginning: Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany, and FDR's Fabian socialism.

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