You speak of 'things' as if they are the same as the principles behind them. Things can't be revealed and tested either, only 'beliefs about them' Principles are the source of both formation and information. They just ARE. "I AM". Feel free to test it. Test the info Fiedler reveals and get back to 'us'. But only after.
Is Ra El
Saving 'it' for last.
You seem to be coming to the rescue of one who failed. I was responding to someone who took a false position. I state the existence of eternal principles. That's a pretty solid position that renders guesses moot.
The A.I. style 'take' on Fiedler in place of the information provided is a tell.
So I'll let A.I. respond to the term 'gilgul'.
Gilgul (gilgul neshamot) is the Jewish concept of reincarnation, a cyclical process where a soul is reborn into new bodies to complete its tikun (rectification) and atone for past transgressions before reaching its ultimate spiritual level. This esoteric doctrine is central to Kabbalistic Judaism, particularly Hasidic Judaism, though it is not considered essential to traditional Judaism and was historically rejected by some prominent Jewish thinkers. The term originates from the Hebrew word for "wheel," reflecting the cyclical nature of the soul's journey.
Actually 'glagal' - (h(wei) - Circle/wheel/rotation association to Yahweh
https://communities.win/c/Unspoil/p/142AwNU9UH/unspoil-part-1-yahweh/c
https://scored.co/c/Christianity/p/141YkrZ2mH/testimony-13-feb-22/c.
You'd ridicule someone who said they'd 'take a look' at the bible and leave it open, but pretend to be able to understand and critique it anyway.
Now read the book so that where we go one, we go all.
You correctly appoint the resurrection confusion to the Canaanite religions, which is line of orthodox history...that is to say that the Canaanite sacrificial religions that Goliath represented was the actual continuation in the later Roman religion while the 'Line of David' was to represent gnosis. No, it isn't about an actual genetic line to a guy named David.
All A.I. and its false histories aside:
The names of the old testament bible are analogous names, not names of actual characters given this name at birth. What an impossible coincidence that would be.
Resurrection was NOT a thing until the messianic hyperdispensation had began during the Maccabean period regardless of attempts at backdating by more recent writers. The multi-varied semitic religions were all influenced by Egypt and later modified.. Hence the names Ra-moses (sic) and moses being concurrent with Moses being said to carry 'the ark' out of egypt. No, this was not a literal boat.
'As primitive Christians, we have enough knowledge to get past that..." This word primitive isn't correct as used here. No, the chrism was not a translation of mashach...mashach was a ritual of annointment, while the chrism was the word for the result of the process that produces the 'christ' or one who takes the chrism. This was lowered to 'annointment' due to lack of understanding of the difference between esoteric spirit and literalist, exoteric ritual. Try annointing yourself and see if you become christ or a christ or if any change occurs whatsoever. It won't. It's just oil....an imitation of the spirit. Like holy water sprinkled on a sinner. It changes nothing. That's called 'magic' which is indeed the religion of primitive man. More importantly, the story of Jesus annointing the maid servant's feet was to show that this ritual is to be RAISED to apply to this woman who seemed to 'know' what it was about as she served without asking. It's not about annointing one man to make him a god. This is covered in the link I include. From whence the word 'annoint' if it means exactly 'christ'? You misunderstand by missing information.
You tell me that Rome changed things, and then use those changes to argue against the reality. The contingencies of Judea were in total chaos and disagreement as to what their actual history and cosmology was and this is what allowed Rome and others to create their own per-version. Watered down dogma to 'agree with' rather than 'finding the christ in you'. Both 'sides' rule by magick until one knows the trick.
Yes you need to discover something more. You diligently look and search for answers, right? You want to know how names were chosen? Would you rather KNOW how and why? Take a look here and get back to me. It isn't enough to be a little smart and a little not.(sophomoric).
Because......the name Sophia.....it meant something to some people. Those people who knew it, knew it as principle, not a literal physical god. That would be error. Sophia is unknown now to modern roman christianity as a result. The fact that she represents spiritual knowledge makes her removal totally understandable as that is exactly what was removed to create a sacrificial messiah movement to solidify Roman rule.
Feel free to pass that around. Send it to your A.I. program of choice.
They said to Jesus: 'Some say you're Elisha'.......showing the common belief in reincarnation. The subject was NOT 'resurrection' which would have been ridiculed as it was later when introduced by hyper-dispensational writings.
It was the introduction of the writings of the new testament of Rome that established 'resurrection' as a new form of reincarnation. You conflate the two, but that's the result of the Roman hyper-dispensation to co-opt and replace the former beliefs of 'the profane'. The gnostic however, understood the difference, as the hero is made to state that he existed as in eternal state before he was born, or even before Abraham. These words all have meaning. A to B is 'all things. Ra is the emanation of life, and ham is protection. God is the protector of the life of all things. But before this.......was 'The Word'.....the meaning precedes the thing that it 'carnates' into. If it comes back, it re-incarnates.
By the definition of resurrection, one who comes back on an operating table after heart stoppage qualifies as resurrection, or the widow of Zarephath’s son, or The Shunammite woman’s son (2 Kings 4:18–37), or The widow of Nain’s son (Luke 7:11–17). Or airus’ daughter (Luke 8:40–56). Lazarus of Bethany (John 11). Or Eutychus (Acts 20:7–12). Various saints in Jerusalem (Matthew 27:50–53). Tabitha (Acts 9:36–43). T
As luck would have it, there is a huge tell in the story of the raising of the man raised out of Elisha’s grave (2 Kings 13:20–21). Elisha is connected with another miracle that occurred after his death. Sometime after Elisha had died and was buried, some men were burying another body in the same area. The grave diggers saw a band of Moabite raiders approaching, and, rather than risk an encounter with the Moabites, they threw the man’s body into Elisha’s grave. Scripture records that, “when the body touched Elisha’s bones, the man came to life and stood up on his feet” (verse 21).
It's too bad Elisha didn't stand up to tell him he was confusing reincarnation with resurrection. So Elijah was 'reincarnated' as Elisha and some were wondering if 'that same spirit' was present in the Christ.That spirit of correction of the errors of the would-be church IS the meaning of the word Elisha. Is the spirit of Elisha. My own name breaks down to this same 'namenumber' in gematria and I take up the challenge as should all who would know the 'secrets' that have been hidden. As long as these secrets stay 'hidden (occult), the corrupt church will rule by it.
What is/was the CHRISM that existed as a word before the character known as 'Jesus Christ' which takes it's name and stead? It isn't a term that originated in the middle east or Arabic lands. It has been 'resurrected' improperly by Rome.
Reincarnation was a common belief at the time. The story in the bible where it is stated to Jesus : "Some say you're Elisha..." shows the common belief in literal transferal of souls. However, even then, there existed another concept to explain by using the name Elisha. The first up-braider of the church was Elijah to be repeated another generation by Elisha. The name signals....sig-nifies the very concept of 'correction of error' in the concept of godhood. One who knows the significance of the letters can 'spell it out' and see it plainly. God's principles are ingrained in number and letter and names were 'cast' to reflect. Let he who has ears, hear.
The Essenic fathers were killed after Ecumenical councils for saying that the Roman orthodox religion taking form as the official religion of Rome was putting the Demiurge (a 'lessor' consciously aware creator god) in the place of the one true god representing eternal concepts. (God's name has changed continually according to changing concepts and cultures).
Eternal Concepts are Principles, the source of all thought. Not to be known as entities in physical terms, as this would be anthropromorphism, an error.
Finally Saving Israel for last by 'coming to terms' with past lies.
You ignore the answer by asking the question. This is the exact point to Pilot washing his hands and asking 'What is Truth?' The story has pilot asking the Nazirite (gnostic )the moot question. This story shows how the 'orthodox' has no answers, only questions, and doesn't really believe such things exist.
It would take a lifetime to answer those question and then the knowledge isn't transferable is it? A person would have to do the hard work in many subjects which I've done both academically and independently.
You refused to actually visit the material presented and instead attempt to narrate by ignorance. Now you deflect by asking 'What is Truth'? as you wash your hands of 'gnosis'.
I'd rather not give an account from 'my' worldview, that's the problem with the world to begin with. There are knowers and there are believers who the gnostics called 'seekers after smooth things.' Prove them wrong.
Gnosis is 'hidden' in plain sight. It is only hidden from the one who refuses to look and see. Gnosis is doctrine when made into a religion. This explains the varied forms of gnosis. Cultural differences will always manifest and distort.
'If you start from a faulty worldview..."
Correct. So all should get to correcting the lies given by study of the original truths that were twisted.
"If someone argues that Christianity is sun worship''.....they'd get into a strawman argument as is usually the case with literalist interpretation.
One can't debate without knowing the opposite viewpoint and can't judge what is unknown. One knows. Another believes.
As for all answers to all questions: There is only One that can be known. MANY are believed.
If one can't work difficult calculus equations, then it doesn't exist as concept, right? And is useless. Whatever it might be that's being discussed. I can't think it, or refuse to look, so it doesn't exist and work can't be done by it, right? Accuracy and clarity, aka understanding being the goal, with knowledge of how to get there.
If its metaphysics you need, then study The Tao of Physics that show a connection to theology. You'll be disappointed that it doesn't match your current take, so I wouldn't bother - If I were you.
You project your own weakness. The links I provided detail the metaphysics as well as their SOURCE. You provide dogma and your words are a tangled mess lacking any substance. You didn't read, think and learn, but judge anyway, and that is what caused the gnostic to call the willfully ignorant 'The Profane' and 'seekers after smooth things'. Put on the big boy pants and do the work.
I don't possess an interpretation. Why ask for my verification of my interpretation anyway? It isn't about me. So how does "I took a look" verify that gnosis is '..a..mess..'? That's your interpretation...but of what?
Interpretation insinuates that you 'know' what an original statement says, and you fail that. You waste the time of, and insult anyone who has done the work. You couldn't defeat whats-his-name in verbal battle, as opposed to discussion, so you call him out, hoping for a rescue from the posse.
There is already another attempt by the cabal to create yet another misguided 'crusade' as distraction from the great awakening. (See Hollywood stars suddenly gaining 'religion') That awakening includes the understanding of who the Babylonian Brotherhood was and is, how they came to the seats of power...(those you trust the most) .and how they are finally to be taken out. But that's only the beginning. Eliminating the Liars and their lies.
One truth....many beliefs.
There is indeed a rule here about banning people who post 'callouts' rather than deal with the issue yourself. You failed to do the work, you don't fool anyone but yourself with that. You should know that the Q team, our literal material savior is largely gnostic as the identifying by the letter Q and number 17 as Divine Inspiration proves. You see, this is a Taking Back of that which was stolen and corrupted. Seeing the eternal with new eyes. The recruitment to Q Team required knowledge of the occult and its organizations ( ie: those who run the churches from the top) in order to know the enemy and his methods. The enemy's method is to take a grain of truth (gnosis) and twist the Hell out of it. Each book of the old testament is testament to this occurring again and again. How to escape. I point at the sun and you look at my finger. I pointed to Things to gno but you ignored. What is one who ignores? Do the work.
You make my point exactly. It HAS been tampered with. By whom and how? Thats YOUR job to find out now that you've been redpilled. But you can't because you 'took a look' and it's 'a total mess'.
Meaning you are a fool. I'm finished here. Go back to Sunday School and have a good day.
Gnosis as a subject is fairly extensive. One might start by researching the community of Qumram, though it exists as principles, it is variously practiced and understood culturally and historically. There are several excellent books on the subject. The 'debate' between gnostic, agnostic and 'the followers of the Lie' was won by murder and deception to create an all-encompassing Roman (catholic means 'universal') religion. The study of gnosis should include spelling and counting as its principles founded both alphabets and numeral systems. The Gnostic Gospels by Elaine Page is a good source for background and history.
For a clue as to how far back and how deep the understanding goes, take a hard look at this link's information as 'proof'.
Remember that this information, like all deep subjects, is not for the pretender or faint-hearted researcher. It can and has been misused, which is exactly the case with the cabal who controls by their twisted use of the secrets it contains. This is 'two on a high place' with one ruling by it, and another finding the chrism/christ by it. Leave the 99 to find the One. Deep dive finds the pearl.
I may have inadvertantly transposed Elisha and Elijah, as to a certain 'story' reference? I don't know, I don't recall, if so, that is a clerical error if so and means zero, zilch, nothing ....is a diversion to the point..which was and still is, in the meaning of the names. And the characters were back-named by historians to account for the principle the names represent. . They were both 'AN Elisha/Elijah from different eras. and this is the deeper meaning to the statement: 'Some say you are (AN) Elisha' which proves that there also existed the belief in reincarnation as you admit when you say that the Pharisees believed. Which then counters your moronic attempt to discredit the same.
Why the term 'Son of Man' rather than 'Son of God'? Care to venture?
Re: "\Were the people of Caesarea Phillippi Sadducees or Pharisees? The people were the people with all their varieties of beliefs. That variety exemplified in the same tired in-fighting that plagues the region to this day. Phillip was Greek and Ceasarea the Roman continuation of his empire. The Helenized jew was never the same was he?
Re: 'They worshipped Pan'. What a moronic over-statement.
I'm sure many did end up 'worshipping' an idol called Pan, and all his subordinates due to the loss of the understanding of the deeper meaning and source for the myths. That same source that created the numeric and alphabetical systems and subsequent religious offshoots/imitations/. However, to understand Pan is to understand the principle behind.....yes even in, or especially in mythical character names (gods to the profane). Yes there was a profane class of 'believers' who sacrificed, and another elite class who understood the concepts for what they were. The book linked EXPLAINS in great detail, SPELLING IT OUT and showing the significance with Divine Geometry. Please attempt to shit on that by ignorance and see where it goes.
The vocabulary stolen, the characters becoming human and even god incarnating into a man, this is idolatrous anthropromorphism and you don't get to ride that beast in victory. This is partly how we got here. BAD RELIGION from blackhat magicians who fool all but the Elect. And how are the Elect determined? There would be a criteria. The inner sanctum is for the one who can 'take the bull by the horns'. B'aal is the god of religious denominations (numbers) AT THE TOP, same as it ever was. Q as 17, you don't know why.....and The Star....and you don't know why.....is Divine Inspiration ....and you don't know why. This is your savior in reality whether you accept or not and comes as AN Elisha/Elijah.....and you don't know why. You swallow the Roman hyperdispensation which is idolatrous anthropromorphism.
Until you accept the Great Awakening.