Suggestion regarding how many accounts on conspiracy, truth research, Christian orgs, National socialists, etc.. are astroturfing. Basically either feds or Israeli Unit 8200, Jewish university students, bots, etc.. are pretending to be Christian, National Socialists, conspiracy researchers etc..
My conservative estimate is that on many platforms it's a safe bet that no less than 50% are fake users, comments. The percentile in some instances could be as high as 90% because they understand people are unfortunately more swayed by group-think than real arguments or thinking processes.
Very hard truth to swallow. But that's how echo chambers operate. I came to the realization when I busted on BitChute entire networks of shills. Shills making content, shills promoting it casually, shills fighting with other shills to make fake arguments to promote each other indirectly. A complete Potemkin village.
You can never prove it. Even doxxing nowadays might not prove it as well because they could create a complete fake digital persona with multiple accounts on social platforms with "friends" and contacts, family photos and such that would make it very difficult to know that it's fake. Moreover they have the capacity to fake IPs and such. The whole so called "AI"/Chatbots probably started to make it easier to Astroturf long time ago.
Think of it this way. How much would a single fighter jet cost? What about maintenance? Pilot? Logistics? Radars on the ground? etc...
Why do people on conspiracy platforms not consider that hundreds of millions of dollars have not been put into astroturfing? It's only the cost of few jets.
With this money you can hire hundreds of tech/communication people for many years. They can create tools, put strategies and manuals on how to subvert. Just get hold of 10 smart tech personnel, work them full time for couple of years and they can do massive astroturfing.
I have my ways (Not sharing them because they are also reading this) to guess that there is higher likelihood that a particular account is fake but I can never be certain. Though in some instances you can be almost certain when they leave no other option for their actions unless they are shills. I busted that network of shills on BitChute when one of the accounts made a blatant lie that may have otherwise passed on someone else but because I had real world information on the topic I knew he was lying and there was no other reason unless he was a shill.
What next? Should you stop posting or hanging out in this type of platforms? Perhaps. Perhaps they allow these echo chambers to let some steam out and prevent real world action and better monitor.
I personally use it while still knowing because I know that not everyone is a shill or bot. There are few real people who are reading this and that's for whom I am writing it (Many of the real people actually don't even create accounts or hardly engage). The enemy is spending millions upon millions to stop genuine content like this getting to anyone.
Also the few real posts here and there force all the fake accounts to move the bar up. Even shills like Alex Jones nowadays have to mention the Israelis because if they don't no one will take him seriously. It took years of real posts and comments from real people to move the bar up to where it is now.
It could be. But you must also consider that they are also reading it so if we actually unlock a "secret formula" or a new technique so to speak to spot them they would also adapt and up their game to match our discoveries.
I personally would have to think about it to come up with what they already realize but can't change much since it would also negatively impact their outcome.
For me I think the most important bit is that people should always keep in mind that astroturfing is a thing they must always consider even for obscure figures and platforms and not just the big or famous ones. Operating at that mindset alone is sufficient to make the game harder for the enemy.
pretending to be Christian, National Socialists, conspiracy researchers
a) Coming into being implies the christening.
b) Any -ist implies consent to a suggested -ism, hence consent within consensus aka group think.
c) Con (together) spiracy/spirit (to breathe) contradicts each singular state of being.
thinking processes
There can be only one process for each potential thought within.
entire networks of shills
A net confines each partial within from how entire works...a shill represents a decoy luring ones consent into the consensus net aka the world wide web aka internet.
So how does entire work? It sets each partial within free from one another...no consensus required to enter; pass or leave, nor networking to keep anything together
Suggestion regarding how many accounts on conspiracy, truth research, Christian orgs, National socialists, etc.. are astroturfing. Basically either feds or Israeli Unit 8200, Jewish university students, bots, etc.. are pretending to be Christian, National Socialists, conspiracy researchers etc..
My conservative estimate is that on many platforms it's a safe bet that no less than 50% are fake users, comments. The percentile in some instances could be as high as 90% because they understand people are unfortunately more swayed by group-think than real arguments or thinking processes.
Very hard truth to swallow. But that's how echo chambers operate. I came to the realization when I busted on BitChute entire networks of shills. Shills making content, shills promoting it casually, shills fighting with other shills to make fake arguments to promote each other indirectly. A complete Potemkin village.
How would we going about proving shill status without doxxing?
You can never prove it. Even doxxing nowadays might not prove it as well because they could create a complete fake digital persona with multiple accounts on social platforms with "friends" and contacts, family photos and such that would make it very difficult to know that it's fake. Moreover they have the capacity to fake IPs and such. The whole so called "AI"/Chatbots probably started to make it easier to Astroturf long time ago.
Think of it this way. How much would a single fighter jet cost? What about maintenance? Pilot? Logistics? Radars on the ground? etc...
Why do people on conspiracy platforms not consider that hundreds of millions of dollars have not been put into astroturfing? It's only the cost of few jets.
With this money you can hire hundreds of tech/communication people for many years. They can create tools, put strategies and manuals on how to subvert. Just get hold of 10 smart tech personnel, work them full time for couple of years and they can do massive astroturfing.
I have my ways (Not sharing them because they are also reading this) to guess that there is higher likelihood that a particular account is fake but I can never be certain. Though in some instances you can be almost certain when they leave no other option for their actions unless they are shills. I busted that network of shills on BitChute when one of the accounts made a blatant lie that may have otherwise passed on someone else but because I had real world information on the topic I knew he was lying and there was no other reason unless he was a shill.
What next? Should you stop posting or hanging out in this type of platforms? Perhaps. Perhaps they allow these echo chambers to let some steam out and prevent real world action and better monitor.
I personally use it while still knowing because I know that not everyone is a shill or bot. There are few real people who are reading this and that's for whom I am writing it (Many of the real people actually don't even create accounts or hardly engage). The enemy is spending millions upon millions to stop genuine content like this getting to anyone.
Also the few real posts here and there force all the fake accounts to move the bar up. Even shills like Alex Jones nowadays have to mention the Israelis because if they don't no one will take him seriously. It took years of real posts and comments from real people to move the bar up to where it is now.
Ok, then the conversation would be more about shill techniques and how to spot them? That could be good for discussion.
It could be. But you must also consider that they are also reading it so if we actually unlock a "secret formula" or a new technique so to speak to spot them they would also adapt and up their game to match our discoveries.
I personally would have to think about it to come up with what they already realize but can't change much since it would also negatively impact their outcome.
For me I think the most important bit is that people should always keep in mind that astroturfing is a thing they must always consider even for obscure figures and platforms and not just the big or famous ones. Operating at that mindset alone is sufficient to make the game harder for the enemy.
Even more complex when you factor in ai bots infiltrating..
comment ignored as likely part of the 50% fakery
a) Coming into being implies the christening.
b) Any -ist implies consent to a suggested -ism, hence consent within consensus aka group think.
c) Con (together) spiracy/spirit (to breathe) contradicts each singular state of being.
There can be only one process for each potential thought within.
A net confines each partial within from how entire works...a shill represents a decoy luring ones consent into the consensus net aka the world wide web aka internet.
So how does entire work? It sets each partial within free from one another...no consensus required to enter; pass or leave, nor networking to keep anything together
I still wanna talk about the ai data center conspiracies..