Thanks u/Plemethrock
We can have a discussion on whether or not free will exists. Discuss if every action we do is already predetermined by how our brain is wired, with the environment around us being the inputs.
We can also have a discussion on whether or not humans have souls and analyze the evidence for and against us just being our bodies
(I made an error and had to repost, apologies)
I believe humans have souls and my evidence is biblical which i'm not sure many in here appreciate as a source. I also believe free will exists because God declared it.....correct me if i'm wrong about people not seeing the Bible as a trusted source.
Where did God declare it? The Bible in fact says the opposite that God has numbered all your days before you were born (Psalm 139), that he directs everyone's steps and the apparently random casting of lots (Proverbs 16) and that God creates people for the purpose of saving them or sending them to hell (Romans 9).
Note that free will is not the same as the ability to make choices or personal accountability. Romans 9 says that God holds people accountable even though their choices were predetermined (like the hardening of Pharaoh's heart by God). If one wishes to claim that a person's choices being predetermined entails that they are not morally accountable for their choices then this needs to be argued rather than assumed like free will proponents always do.
I've been under the impression that evil things occur in this world because God gave us free will. I do agree that God has seen past present and future but would that HAVE to mean free will doesn't exist?
Free will of choice can only operate in-between over/under aka as above/so below aka at the center of balance....others suggest good vs evil to tempt choice into imbalance aka against one another.
Good or evil implies a measurement TAKEN (possession) while ignoring God GIVEN (impression) choice. Given implies knowledge (perception); taking implies forbidden knowledge (suggestion).
Agree implies versus disagree aka a conflict binding free will of choice into imbalance against one another.
God implies delineation given...suggested past; present and future implies measurements taken. One cannot take without ignoring given.
While alive (present)...one cannot perceive ones inception (past) or death (future). Others suggest past and future to invert PRESENCE into PRESENT...the former implies ones essence within motion, while the latter represents an affixed position.
Free cannot "have"; hold onto "meaning" or "do nothing (doesn't)" without contradicting itself aka without binding itself.
Others tempts free will of choice with nothing; meaning and things to have into taking a chance...for the price of given choice.
Neither having; meaning, nor doing nothing represents a natural state, but artificial descriptions to distract from nature...only ones free will of choice can discern the difference between reality (perception) and fiction (suggestion).