Nowhere in the Bible does it say egalitarianism is God's law. God did not equate or equalize men and women, individuals, races, peoples, cities, animals, judgments, sins, crimes, or punishments. Differentiations is rife all over the Bible, and in creation itself.
You are asserting a huge heresy that's spread throughout the West, and the Christian church, since the Enlightenment. Egalitarianism is the false belief (and for Christians a sin), that unequal things are equal. This false belief and sin has exploded since the 1900s, beginning with race blindness and feminism, progressing to new falsities ever since, even into the LGBTQ movement (equalizing different forms of sexual sin to the normative/good kind, between one man and one woman in marriage), into transgenderism (a progression of the thought that there is no difference between men and women), and now into pedophilia (the equalization of age).
In every regard, egalitarianism is a lie. At the very core, is the concept of trying to equalize different things. It's the philosophical concept of trying to argue that 1 and 2 are equal. The moment that Satan can convince you of that, he can convince you of anything, and get you to perform every sin imaginable, because all differentiation disappears.
in that all humans were made in His image.
False. Man (Adam) was made in God's image. Woman (Eve) was made from Adam. Even if we assumed this specific statement as correct, it still doesn't negate the fact that differentiation exists, among almost every variable imaginable.
I have been thinking very seriously on your accusations. I've tried talking through our differences in understanding and I'm not sure how to further proceed.
I hope the Holy Spirit can convict you where I've been unable to.
Dusting feet is indeed a very serious thing to say and do.
It is, and I mean it with all severity that it warrants. I must give dire warning when a fellow Christian continues to live in unrepentant sin, especially after I've pointed it out, explained it, and rebuked it in numerous ways. You are gambling your soul every day you live in unrepentant sin, hoping that today you won't die, and on your day of judgment, God gives leniency to you, when He's not required. Can your unrepentant sins be forgiven on your day of judgment? That I don't know. All I do know, is that it's best to not test it, when the worst outcome is eternal torment in Hell.
Just because you call Jesus Lord, just because you are a professed Christian, doesn't mean you will be forgiven and welcomed into Heaven. In Matthew 7:21-22, Jesus says:
"Not everyone who says to me, βLord, Lord,β will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, βLord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?β And then will I declare to them, βI never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness."
You must abide by God. That means you must accept and try to live by scripture, and by the truth God inlaid into creation. we, of course, are sinners, so we will fail, but we must strive to do so, and accept God and His word (truth), and we must not reject it and defend our own falsities and sins. If your interpretation of scripture doesn't align with the truth of creation, it means its false. If your interpretation of scripture doesn't align with the last few thousand years of Christian doctrine, but instead aligns with the modern corruptions and perversions, which have overseen the church dwindle and be corrupted, described as the great falling away in 2 Thessalonians 2, Matthew 24:10β12, and 1 Timothy 4:1.
Why would you abide by interpretations of scripture that have clearly seen the destruction and corruption of the church, the explosion and acceptance of sin and death? These are poisonous fruits of the poisonous tree. We are explicitly warned to reject them. And yet, you accept and defend them? Even a small morsel of acceptance of these poisonous fruits, is still defense of sin, and defense of your own sin, as you are currently in practice of it.
Again, you have been warned.
Remember, that we are commanded to love our neighbor. How could I, if I truly loved you, let you be damned in your behavior and sin? If I truly loved you, would I not try to warn and stop you, to correct your path, so that you could be saved?
So God created man in His own image;
He created him in the image of God;
He created them male and female.
Genesis 1:27
Man was created from dust and woman created from the rib of the man and both were created by God in His image.
Woman is to be the helper and I'm here to help men and women both shine light on the darkness that is constantly conspiring against the King Jesus Christ.
There is also biblical precedent for Godly women in leadership by the grace of God, if you'd like to revisit that.
You keep deflecting and ignoring the entirety of the issue. Repent of your sins, and be saved. Repentance doesn't just mean being "sorry" that you sinned. It means changing your mindset and behaviors, to no longer accept your sin, to hate it and try to avoid it as much as possible. Repentance DOES NOT mean defending and justifying your sins.
Also, SwampRangers is manipulating votes again, as he's been doing this for years in long dead posts and threads.
Thank you for not pinging me with your accusation. I don't know what you think I'm doing to "manipulate votes" that anyone else is prohibited from doing, or what past you're referring to. Accusations without ping and without evidence and without specifics that can be pinned down by the accused amount to chilling speech, especially from a banning mod.
Hey Apex, you have an excellent doctrine of purism, I had to wrestle some time in the past to come to a similar understanding. If you are convinced in your heart and mind that any woman in any leadership is sinning, you do have a duty to separate from those (like me) who profess Christianity but also advocate for what you think sin, under Romans 14.
What I discovered was that each being fully convinced in his own mind means that those who are separated from must also continue in their convictions. Over time either one party will be revealed as false by true apostasy (to the point of the group shriveling up and the Lord removing its candlestick), or both parties will find a reconciliation (revealing both concerns as legitimate and harmonizing them).
So I'd appreciate your keeping discussion lines open as part of the duty of seeking to understand other views well enough to make the most refined and complete case to judge them.
Practically, in this case, since it sounds like you've held for some time that all women moderating any forum here are sinning (except maybe a women's and/or children's forum), it's surprising that hasn't come out, and only arose in this forum (that you don't frequent) because of your recent awareness. You didn't notice on Meta a couple months ago when this was discussed, nor have I seen you comment on any forum about how important it is for you to give this warning about female mods. So I'm not convinced it's your actual view rather than something performative that you use to feel good among others you work with.
The actual debate is rather simple, and could be engaged anywhere, but it requires us both being open to being transformed by the Lord through Scripture. On this topic and the one I raised to you a moment ago, I'm not certain you wish to practice that openness: so I merely note that one path to it is submitting both your position and the concerns of others to the Lord for adjudication. This willingness and submission is reflected in dialogue. The fact that you lay out your case in detail is a great first step, but is not always a signal that one wants to undertake the journey.
Then why are you acting exactly like a feminist?
Nowhere in the Bible does it say egalitarianism is God's law. God did not equate or equalize men and women, individuals, races, peoples, cities, animals, judgments, sins, crimes, or punishments. Differentiations is rife all over the Bible, and in creation itself.
You are asserting a huge heresy that's spread throughout the West, and the Christian church, since the Enlightenment. Egalitarianism is the false belief (and for Christians a sin), that unequal things are equal. This false belief and sin has exploded since the 1900s, beginning with race blindness and feminism, progressing to new falsities ever since, even into the LGBTQ movement (equalizing different forms of sexual sin to the normative/good kind, between one man and one woman in marriage), into transgenderism (a progression of the thought that there is no difference between men and women), and now into pedophilia (the equalization of age).
In every regard, egalitarianism is a lie. At the very core, is the concept of trying to equalize different things. It's the philosophical concept of trying to argue that 1 and 2 are equal. The moment that Satan can convince you of that, he can convince you of anything, and get you to perform every sin imaginable, because all differentiation disappears.
False. Man (Adam) was made in God's image. Woman (Eve) was made from Adam. Even if we assumed this specific statement as correct, it still doesn't negate the fact that differentiation exists, among almost every variable imaginable.
I hope the Holy Spirit can convict you where I've been unable to.
It is, and I mean it with all severity that it warrants. I must give dire warning when a fellow Christian continues to live in unrepentant sin, especially after I've pointed it out, explained it, and rebuked it in numerous ways. You are gambling your soul every day you live in unrepentant sin, hoping that today you won't die, and on your day of judgment, God gives leniency to you, when He's not required. Can your unrepentant sins be forgiven on your day of judgment? That I don't know. All I do know, is that it's best to not test it, when the worst outcome is eternal torment in Hell.
Just because you call Jesus Lord, just because you are a professed Christian, doesn't mean you will be forgiven and welcomed into Heaven. In Matthew 7:21-22, Jesus says:
"Not everyone who says to me, βLord, Lord,β will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, βLord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?β And then will I declare to them, βI never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness."
You must abide by God. That means you must accept and try to live by scripture, and by the truth God inlaid into creation. we, of course, are sinners, so we will fail, but we must strive to do so, and accept God and His word (truth), and we must not reject it and defend our own falsities and sins. If your interpretation of scripture doesn't align with the truth of creation, it means its false. If your interpretation of scripture doesn't align with the last few thousand years of Christian doctrine, but instead aligns with the modern corruptions and perversions, which have overseen the church dwindle and be corrupted, described as the great falling away in 2 Thessalonians 2, Matthew 24:10β12, and 1 Timothy 4:1.
Why would you abide by interpretations of scripture that have clearly seen the destruction and corruption of the church, the explosion and acceptance of sin and death? These are poisonous fruits of the poisonous tree. We are explicitly warned to reject them. And yet, you accept and defend them? Even a small morsel of acceptance of these poisonous fruits, is still defense of sin, and defense of your own sin, as you are currently in practice of it.
Again, you have been warned.
Remember, that we are commanded to love our neighbor. How could I, if I truly loved you, let you be damned in your behavior and sin? If I truly loved you, would I not try to warn and stop you, to correct your path, so that you could be saved?
So God created man in His own image;
He created him in the image of God;
He created them male and female.
Genesis 1:27
Man was created from dust and woman created from the rib of the man and both were created by God in His image.
Woman is to be the helper and I'm here to help men and women both shine light on the darkness that is constantly conspiring against the King Jesus Christ.
There is also biblical precedent for Godly women in leadership by the grace of God, if you'd like to revisit that.
Edit: changed an a to e
You keep deflecting and ignoring the entirety of the issue. Repent of your sins, and be saved. Repentance doesn't just mean being "sorry" that you sinned. It means changing your mindset and behaviors, to no longer accept your sin, to hate it and try to avoid it as much as possible. Repentance DOES NOT mean defending and justifying your sins.
Also, SwampRangers is manipulating votes again, as he's been doing this for years in long dead posts and threads.
While I appreciate your time, I still highly implore you to take this up with the Lord Jesus.
We may have a small audience..
Thank you for not pinging me with your accusation. I don't know what you think I'm doing to "manipulate votes" that anyone else is prohibited from doing, or what past you're referring to. Accusations without ping and without evidence and without specifics that can be pinned down by the accused amount to chilling speech, especially from a banning mod.
Hey Apex, you have an excellent doctrine of purism, I had to wrestle some time in the past to come to a similar understanding. If you are convinced in your heart and mind that any woman in any leadership is sinning, you do have a duty to separate from those (like me) who profess Christianity but also advocate for what you think sin, under Romans 14.
What I discovered was that each being fully convinced in his own mind means that those who are separated from must also continue in their convictions. Over time either one party will be revealed as false by true apostasy (to the point of the group shriveling up and the Lord removing its candlestick), or both parties will find a reconciliation (revealing both concerns as legitimate and harmonizing them).
So I'd appreciate your keeping discussion lines open as part of the duty of seeking to understand other views well enough to make the most refined and complete case to judge them.
Practically, in this case, since it sounds like you've held for some time that all women moderating any forum here are sinning (except maybe a women's and/or children's forum), it's surprising that hasn't come out, and only arose in this forum (that you don't frequent) because of your recent awareness. You didn't notice on Meta a couple months ago when this was discussed, nor have I seen you comment on any forum about how important it is for you to give this warning about female mods. So I'm not convinced it's your actual view rather than something performative that you use to feel good among others you work with.
The actual debate is rather simple, and could be engaged anywhere, but it requires us both being open to being transformed by the Lord through Scripture. On this topic and the one I raised to you a moment ago, I'm not certain you wish to practice that openness: so I merely note that one path to it is submitting both your position and the concerns of others to the Lord for adjudication. This willingness and submission is reflected in dialogue. The fact that you lay out your case in detail is a great first step, but is not always a signal that one wants to undertake the journey.