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Frontier AI Systems Have Surpassed The Self Replicating Red Line - Species|Documenting AGI (media.scored.co)
posted 2 days ago by Thisisnotanexit 2 days ago by Thisisnotanexit +10 / -1
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– CrazyRussian 1 point 15 hours ago +2 / -1

I have actually taken courses on things like machine learning and LLM's.

This is marketing I told about. If you don't understand that, then I can't help you.

Are you projecting your own ignorance onto me?

As I already told, using something does not mean you know shit about what you use.

All that "machine learning courses" are pretty similar and gives no any understanding of code that actually works in ANNs. This simple shit is cloaked behind some third-party libraries in the best case or just behind using one or another application.

Do they told you about perceptron and its actual schematics? Or they cut everything interesting to something like "sigmoids" and "back-propagation" without actual code behind it? Or may be they don't even bother to tell you anything about ANN except that you have to train it?

It is just impossible to seriously talk about any intelligence if you know how ANNs really work.

You're using "artificial intelligence" in a different way to everybody else on the planet.

No. It is you, and corps marketing who want to attribute non-existing properties to stupid ANNs.

With high probability, you name "Coca-Cola" as "Coca-Cola", but I hope you clearly understand that it does not contain any coke and even cola at all. You don't make posts about "those bastards in Coca-Cola making us all cocaine addicts111!!!".

But somehow at the same time you assume, and argue as if some corporation name dumb ANN as "AI", then this ANN actually have something with intelligence.

It is insanity at least. Or you pushing marketing lies. Both are worse.

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– Zyxl 2 points 9 hours ago +2 / -0

You're ignoring my actual point and just engaging in ad hominem. And not even good ad hominem since you're projecting without knowledge.

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 8 hours ago +2 / -1

I don't see how to force you to read the actual ANNs code and to understand what it do. Seens even kindergarden analogies does not work.

You are constantly talk about some "knowledge" about ANNs, but evading to discuss their code that only and fully determine ANNs behaviour. You can't have knowledge of anything without understanding how it really works.

You can't argue intelligence of, say,

for( sum=0.0, i=0; i<n; i++ ){ sum += w[j][i] * In[i]; }; out[j] = act_func(sum);

And nobody will find any intelligence in this simple thing. Because there is none. Zero.

But you continue to repeat dumb marketing narratives about "AI".

I can't help you at that stage.

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– Zyxl 1 point 8 hours ago +1 / -0

You're still equivocating on the meaning of intelligence. While also committing the fallacy of composition.

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– CrazyRussian 2 points 8 hours ago +2 / -0

You still avoid discussing technical details. :)

Meanwhile, when you talk about "smartphone", do you really think this thing is smart? :)

I have a proposal for you, and your kind. Please, write AI® in your marketing. Then it will have some sense, and could pass for those who does make difference as marketing trick, not blatant lie. :)

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