Meanwhile, when you talk about "smartphone", do you really think this thing is smart? :)
I have a proposal for you, and your kind. Please, write AI® in your marketing. Then it will have some sense, and could pass for those who does make difference as marketing trick, not blatant lie. :)
Why would I discuss details of specific AI techniques and models when talking about AI in general and whether it can do stuff only human cognition could previously do? It's completely irrelevant to our discussion.
Why would I discuss details of specific AI techniques and models when talking about AI in general
Gotcha! :) Glad that you slip that out. That's the crucial point of marketing. Never discuss any technical details of why some product is unreliable shit that can't do what it is supposed to do, but discuss some "in general" bullshit, like absolutely irrelevant question of "how cool this car looks in ads depicting happy actor and nice hilly landscape". To not allow any actual questions like why that car turns into rusty backet with nuts in just few years or why customer now have to replace variator belt for enormous price every 50k miles and how such car techncally can't do what was advertised, from making owner happy to climbing up to the hill shown in ad without severe damage for transmission not covered by warranty.
You literally doing exactly the same. Switching from actual technical question that gives full understanding of ANNs limitations and abilities to some marketing tricks.
If you hope that nobody except marketing targer audience with less that who brain cells left, then I have a bad news for you.
PS: Also, it is notable how in all that discussion, where you declared yourself having knowledge, you never used specific lexicon of those who really have knwoledge of ANN and stuff. It is impossible. Say, real sailor will always use specific navy terms even in public disculssion. Programmer will do that too. Doctor will slip some medical words from time to time. And so on. Any true specialist have that linguistic feature. But you don't. Ergo - you know shit about ANNs.
So you want me to talk about matrix transformations, word vectors, the softmax function, multi-head attention mechanism implementation details and so forth because that will make this conversation somehow more informed? That's like saying to argue that cars can go faster than humans need to talk about engine parts and their limitations. It's completely irrelevant. We can observe cars go faster than humans. Similarly we can observe various computer programs do tasks that were previously only possible by human understanding, judgement and creativity and thus we decided to call that "artificial intelligence". As opposed to natural/genuine intelligence that comes from a mind, but something that to an outside observer is indistinguishable from a mind.
Your only contribution to this conversation is finding excuses to discuss anything other than the actual arguments.
You're still equivocating on the meaning of intelligence. While also committing the fallacy of composition.
You still avoid discussing technical details. :)
Meanwhile, when you talk about "smartphone", do you really think this thing is smart? :)
I have a proposal for you, and your kind. Please, write AI® in your marketing. Then it will have some sense, and could pass for those who does make difference as marketing trick, not blatant lie. :)
Why would I discuss details of specific AI techniques and models when talking about AI in general and whether it can do stuff only human cognition could previously do? It's completely irrelevant to our discussion.
Gotcha! :) Glad that you slip that out. That's the crucial point of marketing. Never discuss any technical details of why some product is unreliable shit that can't do what it is supposed to do, but discuss some "in general" bullshit, like absolutely irrelevant question of "how cool this car looks in ads depicting happy actor and nice hilly landscape". To not allow any actual questions like why that car turns into rusty backet with nuts in just few years or why customer now have to replace variator belt for enormous price every 50k miles and how such car techncally can't do what was advertised, from making owner happy to climbing up to the hill shown in ad without severe damage for transmission not covered by warranty.
You literally doing exactly the same. Switching from actual technical question that gives full understanding of ANNs limitations and abilities to some marketing tricks.
If you hope that nobody except marketing targer audience with less that who brain cells left, then I have a bad news for you.
PS: Also, it is notable how in all that discussion, where you declared yourself having knowledge, you never used specific lexicon of those who really have knwoledge of ANN and stuff. It is impossible. Say, real sailor will always use specific navy terms even in public disculssion. Programmer will do that too. Doctor will slip some medical words from time to time. And so on. Any true specialist have that linguistic feature. But you don't. Ergo - you know shit about ANNs.
So you want me to talk about matrix transformations, word vectors, the softmax function, multi-head attention mechanism implementation details and so forth because that will make this conversation somehow more informed? That's like saying to argue that cars can go faster than humans need to talk about engine parts and their limitations. It's completely irrelevant. We can observe cars go faster than humans. Similarly we can observe various computer programs do tasks that were previously only possible by human understanding, judgement and creativity and thus we decided to call that "artificial intelligence". As opposed to natural/genuine intelligence that comes from a mind, but something that to an outside observer is indistinguishable from a mind.
Your only contribution to this conversation is finding excuses to discuss anything other than the actual arguments.