Jesus never wanted what they "church" became after his resurrection. It became a corrupt, controlled government that goes against all of God's teachings.
The Church has always been attacked by satan much the same way when Jesus was in the desert after being baptized. He didn't give up on us by taking satan's offer and neither true Catholics ever will no matter what happens thus anyone who do or quits does not belong to God.
Jesus wrote to seven churches in 96 AD and every time he distinguished those who were doing real "church" (kyriakon, Lord's work) from the infiltrators who were doing works of satan (seven different schemes named).
What would you say the "church" should be, what does Jesus want us to be doing?
Luther did have the fortitude to fight for what Jesus gave us, which is why he published theses about indulgences that (the Counterreformation later admitted) were not being operated in accord with what Jesus gave us.
Leo then relied on counsel that badly summarized Luther's old teachings and excommunicated him even though hearings were inconclusive. Luther continued fighting for the church even after it kicked him out.
Now some Catholics would say Luther was wrong to pursue conscience when it told him church practices were wrong: instead he should have suppressed the internal voice and refused to trust his own eyes and ears, doing nothing but repeating what he believed to be contradictions like a good nonplayer character. I do understand the reason for this preference, and I think that God will preserve a great many people who practice it in spite of themselves. But there comes a time when authority tells you something wrong and you know 100% that you must resist it even if it goes all the way to the top (at least on earth). The centuries of infallibility debate (which continue) demonstrate that the issue of conscience isn't yet settled. I know the answer, but the Catholics suppress where the answer appears in the magisterium because they believe there is a dichotomy between unity and conscience (there isn't). Until Catholics wake up (very literally) and recognize how the Spirit speaks through conscience and always has, they will have the risk of running aground.
TLDR: If you skipped all that, again I ask you to bring your obscenity-laced tirades to your confessor.
I don't believe the Roman Church actually teaches in the magisterium that Luther is in hell. It's not as if you go to hell for something you changed before they called you on it and that you didn't hold for 30 years afterward. That wasn't true of any heretic I know. So I believe you're going beyond the magisterium just to make yourself feel better about anathematizing me.
But guess what! If your priest told you you don't need to repent for obscenity and personal attack, according to your system you don't have to trouble your conscience about it! According to what I said, you might possibly escape as innocent with the actual penalty falling on your priest instead, but all the same it's better to lay out your conscience early and be more certain.
Are you mocking Pope St. Peter and Jesus who ordered him to start his Church heretic?
You say you follow scripture yet all I see is you selectively following what you feel-like-is-convenient-to-you-scripture just like Luther did.
If you or Luther had balls you'd stayed and fought for what Jesus gave to us.
Jesus never wanted what they "church" became after his resurrection. It became a corrupt, controlled government that goes against all of God's teachings.
The Church has always been attacked by satan much the same way when Jesus was in the desert after being baptized. He didn't give up on us by taking satan's offer and neither true Catholics ever will no matter what happens thus anyone who do or quits does not belong to God.
Jesus wrote to seven churches in 96 AD and every time he distinguished those who were doing real "church" (kyriakon, Lord's work) from the infiltrators who were doing works of satan (seven different schemes named).
What would you say the "church" should be, what does Jesus want us to be doing?
Luther did have the fortitude to fight for what Jesus gave us, which is why he published theses about indulgences that (the Counterreformation later admitted) were not being operated in accord with what Jesus gave us.
Leo then relied on counsel that badly summarized Luther's old teachings and excommunicated him even though hearings were inconclusive. Luther continued fighting for the church even after it kicked him out.
Now some Catholics would say Luther was wrong to pursue conscience when it told him church practices were wrong: instead he should have suppressed the internal voice and refused to trust his own eyes and ears, doing nothing but repeating what he believed to be contradictions like a good nonplayer character. I do understand the reason for this preference, and I think that God will preserve a great many people who practice it in spite of themselves. But there comes a time when authority tells you something wrong and you know 100% that you must resist it even if it goes all the way to the top (at least on earth). The centuries of infallibility debate (which continue) demonstrate that the issue of conscience isn't yet settled. I know the answer, but the Catholics suppress where the answer appears in the magisterium because they believe there is a dichotomy between unity and conscience (there isn't). Until Catholics wake up (very literally) and recognize how the Spirit speaks through conscience and always has, they will have the risk of running aground.
TLDR: If you skipped all that, again I ask you to bring your obscenity-laced tirades to your confessor.
When you meet him in hell then Earth will become aost like a paradise.
I don't believe the Roman Church actually teaches in the magisterium that Luther is in hell. It's not as if you go to hell for something you changed before they called you on it and that you didn't hold for 30 years afterward. That wasn't true of any heretic I know. So I believe you're going beyond the magisterium just to make yourself feel better about anathematizing me.
But guess what! If your priest told you you don't need to repent for obscenity and personal attack, according to your system you don't have to trouble your conscience about it! According to what I said, you might possibly escape as innocent with the actual penalty falling on your priest instead, but all the same it's better to lay out your conscience early and be more certain.
Only heretics care about what churchmen say because they like to appease to protestants in the name of ecumenism.
Anyway, cope and seethe retardstein.
https://motherofgodlibrary.org/2019/06/05/a-terrible-vision-luther-in-hell/
Preach it, c/Yahweh!