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posted 10 days ago by BuckeyePatr1ot 10 days ago by BuckeyePatr1ot +18 / -3
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– Dorktron4Runner 1 point 9 days ago +2 / -1

c/Satanism is intended to attract people interested in satanism so they can receive the good news just like c/Nazi is intended to attract people interested in nazism. Funny thing, neither group has bitten much, but the Nazis don't give me credit for running the Nazi forum.

God says we should avoid the appearance of evil, or things associated with it. Why create a platform for satanists to congregate in the hopes of performing a bait and switch after giving them the ‘good news’. Why would that work? Again, be careful.

I didn't say antisemitism was a status of Christians, but of racists.

You’re only using “antisemitism” in support of one group: the jews. Jews are not the only ethnoreligious group that get to claim that word through victimhood. “Jews” today are “antisemitic” towards Palestinians, for example. As a historian and linguist, you should understand this.

Since we have now considerately been told that conspiracies.win does give access to edit history, I see that you edited your comment 11 times, and the version that I downloaded and saved for replying to did not include what you now say are the "core questions", so I missed them; but I'll be happy to respond to those too.

Yes, I’m a busy guy with a highly successful career and personal life. I was being interrupted while responding.

Apparently you mean something called "Palestine" is some Semitic entity that has some rightful ownership of some…

This is a rather dismissive tone. Do you own any KJV Bibles from the 1800s or early 1900s? It obviously doesn’t show Israel on the map but Palestine. Jesus was a Palestinian. Israel and jews are killing Palestinians and have been for a long time.

Apparently you mean that since there's a little persecution of Christians from some Jewish citizens (not really institutionalized AFAIK), very mild compared to most surrounding countries, this should be taken as supporting your view as if Jesus teaches that all Jews (at some point future to John in 96 since he is Jewish) are specifically organized by satan, rather than my view that satanism has many tentacles and all non-Christians are used by satan as he can.

Again, a dismissive tone towards Christian persecution. “A little”, give me a break.

So, unless you present actual data on "what Jews are doing to Christians" (but they are even letting Cardinal Pizzaballa of the LPJ St. James Vicariate evangelize Jews in their own Hebrew culture and idiom), it seems the data are not consistent with a synagoguing organization run by satan, but with an elastic, variable scheming that uses distraction and deception to hide its worst works.

I mean, it’s pretty easy to find articles and reports about jews killing Palestinian Christians. It’s more than “a little”. Of course you already know all of this.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/07/gaza-church-israel-strike-huckabee-war/

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/features/2024/11/9/palestinian-christians-despair-as-gaza-homeland-destroyed-by-israels-war

When Israel or Jews do right I support it, and when Israel or Jews do wrong I condemn it. We had a video of a lay Jew saying Christians are automatically idolaters and deserve the death penalty, and that is to be condemned, because it doesn't represent Talmudic Judaism (which never explicitly says that Christian trinitarianism is idolatry, though it rejects many sectarian views like tritheism). We had a video of someone spitting on another, and Christians report getting rocks thrown at them by the Orthodox Jews, and that is to be condemned because individuals are taking the law into their own hands rather than letting the Sanhedrin rule on Christianity (the cold case they've never answered directly). We've also had Netanyahu speak highly of Jesus many times, and that is to be supported; he's very cagy and knows exactly what he can say and what he can't, and so he doesn't offend either Judaism or Christianity with his statements. So those are some examples of "what Jews are doing to Christians" that indicate how I judge the cases.

Way to point out the non-violent, yet highly disrespectful, behavior of the jew towards Christians. Talmudic Judaism is anti-Christian and should be condemned by all Christians worldwide.

Given the highly disproportionate, worldwide jew-ish representation and institutionalization within banking, Hollywood, Big Pharma and modern medicine, porn, slavery, and drugs (to name some), all of which are associated with sin in the Bible, I’m afraid my interpretation of John’s Revelations are more in line with reality.

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– SwampRangers 0 points 9 days ago +1 / -1

God says we should avoid the appearance of evil

That's right. Now online people are free to invent any claim of what you appear to them at all, so we also must use judgment. In 2022 the Scored namespace opened up and many people seized various names immediately, often just to prevent others from using a name for purposed believed to be woke. So I watched this happen, prayed about it, and then decided to claim a handful of names myself as others were doing and to offer them to the Scored community for neutral discussion (on all sides of the issues). In the cases being discussed here, hardly anything happened, except for there being more discussion about the community than in the community. I respected that people wouldn't understand, but I think overall it's been a good decision and not one that constitutes appearance of evil any more than Psalm 14 in context saying "There is no God" constitutes appearance of evil.

I am quite aware of the actual original meaning of Semite, but when OP uses the word in its narrower sense I reserve the right to use that context. But my words are not contrary to the broader sense, and do not necessitate the conclusion I use the word only in support of Jews. That's reading comprehension again.

It obviously doesn’t show Israel on the map but Palestine.

This is a total fail, dude. There was never a nation Palestine unless you count Philistia, but the Philistines are dead. The name Palaestina was given to the region by Rome to spite the Jews they had ejected, but the remaining people living in the land were not "Palestinian" (which would have meant Philistine) but were Samaritan, Arab, and a number of holdout Jews and Christians in various cities. Over time these got to be called, as I said, Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews, after the region that kept changing hands. As I said, by a sketchy agreement with the British it got named Mandatory Palestine. When the British left, the Israelis declared self-government, and the Arabs told their people to leave and declared war with no self-government, and we're following the consequences of that. So, as I said, without going into long history, "Palestine" has never ever been "some Semitic entity that has some rightful ownership of some land".

Jesus was a Palestinian.

Totally false, the name Palaestina came 100 years after his death. He was an Israelite Jew (Judean and Judahite), as the Bible constantly says.

Israel and jews are killing Palestinians and have been for a long time.

I'm not making judgments about war deaths, the UN is investigating charges of genocide on that right now so we'll see what happens when the smoke is fully clear. Yes, Palestinian Jews and Palestinian Arabs have been killing each other a long time, and the Jews thought it better to stop calling themselves Palestinians as they had formerly when it wasn't misunderstood, but that doesn't create a Semitic nation Palestine.

Again, a dismissive tone towards Christian persecution. “A little”, give me a break.

I just alluded to the myriads of Christian deaths in dozens of Arab counties with extreme sympathy. I understand that perhaps dozens of Christians have been killed by Jews recently, which is indeed a little by comparison. Total 20th-century victims of statism is estimated at a quarter-billion, with the largest percentage of those being abortions, so I keep perspective. If you had an actual bloody shirt to wave I could condemn it. I heard that two Christian ladies in the LPJ were killed as a result of IDF fire (they say by ricochet), and they are on the fast track to martyrdom I understand, and I don't discount them at all. But my Lord answered whataboutism exactly the same way: he said it wasn't any worse than any other tragedy and unless you repent you will likewise perish.

Yup, you link three deaths that I heard about in July, which Israel apologized for; and you link Al-Jazeera on the two ladies I just mentioned, and a strike from the first month of the war, and the Hamas death numbers (which are as reliable as the covid death numbers). So, without having read the links, I anticipated them precisely. Every Christian who dies in the Israeli war zone is a tragedy; now, as Jesus indicated, let's take the tragedy as an encouragement for ourselves to serve God ever better. It's not like I can change anyone else's behavior except by example from changing my own.

Talmudic Judaism is anti-Christian and should be condemned by all Christians worldwide.

It's anti-idolatry and has permitted much anti-Christianity but it also has recognized that Judaism should not make anti-Christianity a tenet or platform plank. And so it doesn't. Rabbi Ulla, c. 300 AD, charged Jesus with being an inciter, so I condemn Rabbi Ulla for that (that's called Name The Jew For Real). The Talmud makes his statement the minority view and not binding on Jews, so I can't condemn the Talmud for accurately reporting his view. And, when I do comparative religion and consider the invective that early Christians and early Muslims had for other religions, I find exactly the same sort of individual condemnations that were never meant as tenets of the religion simply because notable proponents held the views tentatively.

So I can't conclude Talmudism is automatically anti-Christian. For 4 years or so I've asked all comers to provide a single clear English statement that condemning Jesus is essential to Judaism from any congregational rabbi or rabbinical organization. So far I've got Rabbi Ulla in the Talmud, one obscure rabbi in Hebrew (Eitan Baghdadi) in a clip whose original is unfindable, and one antimissionary who does not appear to be a congregational rabbi (Tovia Singer). They do not speak for the tenets of Judaism, but for themselves. So my conclusion is that Talmudism is deliberately still pre-Christian and deliberately and studiously agnostic on the key questions.

I’m afraid my interpretation of John’s Revelations are more in line with reality.

There's gigantic work of satan, it involves many Jews, but why should you discount the many more Gentiles doing gigantic work of satan as well as the principles of sound exegesis? The only reason I can see that people do that is that they're precommitted to a racist proposition that judges the innocent along with the guilty. If they were merely speaking of predilection and demographics their language would be wholly different (more like the earlier clause of your sentence, which I didn't quote) and I'd have no issue.

But you're "afraid" when Jesus says have no fear; and I'm confident and triumphalist because I know all synagogues of satan will worship at my feet (just as history indicates Onkelos worshipped at Ignatius's feet) and they are destined to serve me in exactly the same way you charge them with wanting others to serve them. Only one triumphalism will win, only one group will become the "masters", and I've made my choice by going with the group that makes itself the servants of all. Because I know my destiny and am assured it by Jesus, I can squarely face everything he says about the works of satan instead of wresting two verses out of the context of seven letters that all speak to the subject of the church and its wrestling with enemy infiltration. I have a much clearer picture of the enemy than you have with your lists of influencers and their attempts to slap gold stars on everyone according to shifting-goalpost standards. I've always approved lists of manipulators and attempts at identification, but I've pointed out that they miss the point entirely, and are actually harmful, if they fail objective methodology and merely cherry-pick and invent categories of Jewish relationship so as to shift the narrative from satanism to a particular group. I humorously made a list of "It's the Germans" companies and influencers just to show how ridiculous the concept is, and sure enough there are so many Germans and German-influenced people in all these same institutions that it must be the Germans every single time, meaning that it's not the Germans at all. But people are free to go on with their illogic, I'll just keep shining the light on it and sitting secure in my confidence that I'm doing what the Lord shows me to do.

TLDR: Your interpretation that Jesus means "Jews" when he says "not Jews" remains an eisegetic failure that creates doubt that you intend to interpret the Bible by the Holy Spirit at all. Your evidence about the cabal should be couched in language that rejects collectivism and judgment of the innocent if you care to fight them honestly at all. Plus, since we have a call to give good news to Jews if they will accept it, we should not get in the way of creative evangelism by continuing a cycle of abuse to people who need good news.

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– Dorktron4Runner 2 points 8 days ago +2 / -0

[More text walls]

TLDR indeed. Yikes again. You can harp on “reading comprehension” all you want while dismissing jew-ish roles in today’s Satanic world (supported by God’s word, not Ignatius’) but you need to learn succinct writing techniques. Your word salad responses are “total fails”. As I said, my time is valuable and this discussion is losing its appeal for me.

You’ve given me several tells in your responses that lead me to believe you’re anti-Christian. Hopefully I’m wrong, for your sake. Best of luck in your Judgment.

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