General consensus is that normies are naive, brainwashed, believe everything the news tells them etc, etc... But is that really so? Maybe they are not as dumb as we think they are? Maybe most of them know it's a lie, they just choose to go along with the narrative?
Sure, there always will be some who are genuinely duped, but I'm not sure it's the majority. Like, when covid was going on, I met a lot of normies who publicly went along with the narrative, but privately it was obvious that they are not afraid of the scary virus at all. They didn't admit it out loud (even privately), but their actions were telling that (at least on some level) they know it's bullshit.
I find this thought a quite dark and depressing one. That would mean most of the people are happy to accept a lie and live with it just because it offers them some sort of benefit or simply because it's easier that way. Maybe this is why getting the truth out is not as effective as we'd like it to be. Also, that would mean mass awakening is probably not forthcoming, because there's nothing to awake from. Normies for the most part are already awake. They just don't care.
They’re not intelligent enough to make a conscious decision. They literally don’t question the providence of external stimuli. They simply respond to it exactly as it is presented to them.
If they were actively supporting the narrative, it wouldn’t be so incompetently implemented and would manage greater control over the world than it has.
I don't see it as active support, more like how Russians acted under Communism. They know everything is wrong but, since they're to scared to do anything, they pay the most basic lip service possible to keep eyes off of themselves.
I might go so far to suggest that their incompetence is how they resist, consciously or not.
I've thought about this example as well. On the other hand, back then there was this thing called kitchen talk. In public people really did pay minimally required lip service. In private, though, it was kind of a badge of honor to expose your actual views in one way or another. In public was one thing, but in the kitchen, eye to an eye, well, that was a whole another thing.
It's not quite so in this case. Most of the normies will defend mainstream lies in public as well as in private.
You hit the nail on the head. the NWO liberal-democratic regime is more advanced than the soviet regime was in terms of mind controlling and conditioning the population. They've made considerable progress just like they did in other fields of technology like biotech, surveillance and data collection.
I think one of the main differences is that back then it was mostly external thing while now it is external as well as internal. It's inside the heads just as much as outside of them. Also, current regime is better at keeping good public image. Soviets were not that great at such levels of deception and lies as we see today. Yep, it seems they've made considerable progress indeed.
Cause they know their phones are listening
That too is a factor, but probably not a major one. At least not yet. No one will know if some normie, say, criticizes vaccines in private conversation. We are not quite there yet... but we might be at some point in the future.
Solzhenitsyn wrote about this psychological phenomenon a lot.
Hmm, I'm not sure this is a question of intelligence... To see through (most of) the lies you don't really need a lot of intelligence... It's more like willingness to step off the beaten path. Readiness to not do as others do. Something along those lines...
Covid really was one of the most transparent scams ever perpetuated, you could see things not being quite right with a naked eye, without any deep research required whatsoever... and yet, most of the population went along with it...
Exactly, the plandemic served as proof it's not an intellectual matter. We saw a bell curve distribution with the majority of the dumbest and the smartest people not buying into the bs and that was on a global scale, so not a cultural thing either.
My analysis:
Normies like the system because it feels safe to them and it has been good to them (as far as they know). They are like sheep who trust their shepherd to lead and protect them (hence sheeple).
People at the low end of the social ladder (who tend to have lower IQ) have seen the bad side of the system and are instinctively skeptical and wary of it (akin to a dog, wary of his master's disposition and intentions).
High IQ people, who are capable of handling complex and highly abstract ideas and exhibit great pattern recognition and rigorous systematical thinking, have done research and came to the conclusion that the system is not to be trusted. They can back up their claims with argumentation.
Yeah, I remember that bell curve. It was an interesting phenomena to observe. Additionally we can analyze this from perspective of relationship to the system and income levels as well:
Mainstream normies can be seen as most dependent on the system. They have quite a lot to loose. They have mortgages and other loans. Their jobs are dependent on their social standing which in turn is dependent on their ability to keep consumption level on par with their peers.
Those at the lower end, as you mentioned, have much less to feel grateful for, so they are already kind of opposed to the system by default. Also, they have less to loose than mainstream normies and they are not so dependent on their social standing either.
Higher ups, however, are less dependent on the system because of their wealth and/or intelligence. They might have a lot to loose, but their gain or loss ir more due to other factors, not their relationship to the system. In short they are more free to choose what to think, what opinions to have as well as their lifestyle and location.
Although we both kind of conflate intelligence with wealth, which is probably not entirely correct... There are lots and lots of dumb rich people as well as intelligent but not that well off ones.
Yes, great points. Conflating intelligence with wealth is a generalization indeed but it's statistically significant and that's why I joined them in my analysis.
Your economic take is more straightforward but still there are caveats like wealthy people who are public figures who are also dependent on the system (entertainment, media, sports, politics, etc). Or wealthy intelligent people in STEM who are also dependent and have to tow the line. Your third category applies to the 1% businessmen and moguls or the independent academic researchers only. The system strives for totalitarian control and fights people who are not dependent on it on any level (except the technocrats at the top who control it but they are less than 0.01%).
Yes; I don’t mean in the “quantifiable scale” sense. I mean in the “Are you even sapient?” sense. We define sapience as “human-level intelligence, the ability to reason, the ability to question the world around them, and the ability to defy instinctual responses to external stimuli.” but one of the most painful things about waking up to reality is coming to the understanding that the vast majority of human beings aren’t actually sapient. They don’t embody the individual or social characteristics about which books are written, songs are sung, or new continents are discovered.
They’re empty husks.
Ah, I see. Good post. It is hard to imagine it's really possible to reduce everything to simple biochemical process, but who knows... at least partially it really is possible. I think emotions have already been simplified for large part of population. They are still there, but more bland, shallower than they used to be. Simpler, less complex.
I think the real question here is this: How large part of the normies (goyim) really are not sapient and how large part of them kind of are, but have chosen to participate in the circus willingly? They can't all be biochemical automatons, can they?
80%. It shows up literally everywhere throughout society, both in purposely constructed endeavors (corporations, for example) and in naturally grown, subconscious constructs (languages, for example).
Now that varies.
I think the NPC meme is a psy op to indoctrinate people into believing other people are not fully human. It's dehumanization.
We're all made in the image of God, have free will, have knowledge of good and evil written on our hearts along with an immortal soul and will be judged accordingly.