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The devil is not in the Vatican. It is the Vatican. (theuncreatedlight.substack.com)
posted 191 days ago by Mrexreturns 191 days ago by Mrexreturns +8 / -0
The Church Is Israel
A common belief in some American Evangelical circles (not all) is that the nation state of Israel is the Israel spoken about in the Bible, these are the “true Israelites” so therefore it must be supported at all costs, etc.
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– Mrexreturns [S] 1 point 191 days ago +2 / -1

"Israel isn't the real church and the Catholics are not real Christians."

This is the exact same sort of counter argument against reality where "they are not the real LGBTQ+ people, we are the real LBGTQ+ people" or "Stalin Mao and Pol Pot failed in communism."

And I keep seeing protestants and evangelists here falling for it.

It's the exact same counter argument that diverts everyone from the reality that an ideology that preaches killing everyone who exhibits even the slightest sense of free will and denies proper hiygene as Satanic drivel killed trillions within a millennia in Europe and is spreading the bodycount worldwide.

It's denial of reality in its most severe form and the bodycounts are intentional.

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– TurnToGodNow 1 point 191 days ago +1 / -0

Of course Israel isn't the real church, it's a country created by the Rothschilds and their minions. It's literally not a church.

And why would you call Catholics real Christians if they don't follow Christ's teachings? Certainly the Vatican does not follow Christ. You can find individual Catholics who are actually studying the Bible, but ultimately then their allegiance is not with Rome if they are saved, because the two will be at odds when SHTF.

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– SmithW1984 1 point 191 days ago +1 / -0

No, it's not, because the Church and its doctrines are historical and not to be made up on the spot to fulfill a political agenda. And just because it's also used that way by bad actors, doesn't mean it reflects the reality of the Christian tradition.

You're making a false equivalence simply because you believe Christianity to be an ideology and you oppose ideologies. So that's a category error too.

So the statement "Israel isn't the real church and the Catholics are not real Christians" is correct. The state of Israel is not the real Church and it never has been - this is a demented zionist interpretation that's not based on history or scripture. Catholics claim they have apostolic succession and are indeed the true Church of Christ who ordained Peter as its leader and who sent the Holy Spirit at Pentecost upon the apostles. So at least there's historicity and coherency behind their claim but still they officially fell away from the Church in 1054.

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– free-will-of-choice 1 point 191 days ago +1 / -0

The devil is not in the Vatican. It is the Vatican.

Devil/diabolos aka dia (across) ballein (to throw)... https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=devil

Being (life) thrown across (inception towards death) implies by the father; through the mother, and into each off-spring.

Ones consent to suggested vatican aka papal authority (vati/papa - "father") tempts one to ignore... "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." ~Matthew 23:9, while giving the one suggesting "vatican" the power of a vates - "soothsayer, prophet, seer", hence permitting another by ones consent to suggest in the name of (in nomine) the father; the son and the holy ghost.

denial of reality

If one writes "The devil is not in the Vatican", then not/nothing/nihilo implies ones de-nial of perceivable reality for suggested fiction.

counter argument against reality

Ones response (re) to all (al) isn't an argument against, but a-gain of ment aka each being gaining access to mind.

Argue/arg - "to shine; white" aka light > spectrum > ray...not a conflict against one another, but a separation from one another to establish the visible spectrum of light.

diverts everyone from the reality

Real aka ones response (re) to all (al) implies a diversion of all into each one...or in biblical terms...a divination from deus (god) and dyeu (to shine).

Fiction aka fictitious (fic) action (tion) implies ones ignorance of action dividing into reactions, when choosing to hold onto each others suggestions.

Example...form (life) reacting to flow (inception towards death) implies reality, while the suggested labels "form + flow" imply fiction if one chooses to hold onto them to describe reality.

Responding to all doesn't require descriptions of matter, but adaptation to motion.

evangelical circles

Angelic-al...all isn't angular, but linear. Each one (life) within line (inception towards death) can be manipulated with angles (suggested information) into circular thinking (logic).

What's a corner? An intersection where lines meet at an angle! Intersection implies internal (inter) division (sec) of action (tion) aka action (motion) dividing internally (momentum) into reactions (matter).

The status quo of being implies intersection, hence having the opportunity to intercourse with one another, while being intersected, which generates off-spring aka the further divination of each angelic being...a division of angles.

catholic

Catholic/cathode aka kata (down) hodos (way); as oppose to anode aka ana (up) hodos (way).

Life being moved from inception towards death implies up (growth) and down (loss) the way...a current/curraunt - "running, flowing, moving along".

Suggested "catholic" tempts one down the way; while ones free will of choice resisting the temptation to give consent to suggestions allows one to grow up the way.

church

Church as suggested implies "body of christians collectively"...christ (to anoint) implies the separation of each ones body within all/oil.

Joining a church implies ones denial (the nail) of the body of christ being moved across (a cross)...and it's this denial of oneself by joining others, which through jesus aka je suis (I am) establishes everyone else into a jew (you).

common belief

Belief implies ones singular consent to a suggestion of another, which only then collectivizes consent into a common-ism.

failed in communism

a) Nature implies fail/fall (inception towards death) for the rise of each being (life)...

b) Any suggested -ism establishes a commune of consent given...if others choose to join.

c) Calling something communism implies ones consent to suggested commun-ism, which makes one a consenting commun-ist.

To call implies "summon, invoke; ask for, demand"...that's why suggested words shaped within perceivable sound imply an invocation/invocare - "to call upon, invoke, appeal to"...not by one to all, but by one to one another.

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