I imagine most of us think of cancer when we hear the word tobacco, but this was not always the case. There was a time before the corporate adulteration of tobacco. Tobacco is made in nature, which means it serves a purpose in this creation, and as our guest informs us, has a deep-rooted relationship with humans. The plant itself is actually quite beautiful, with flowers that lend themselves to identification of particular types of tobacco. A quick image search for “tobacco flowers” will begin to bring your mind back around to recognizing this amazing plant’s natural state in the creation. The perception of tobacco used to be very different before the modern era. In those times tobacco smoke was known to carry prayers straight to heaven, so to speak. In the Chaco Canyon region of the southwest I was informed by a tribal elder that tobacco was used in the rain ceremony. Simply put, pipes are employed to smoke the tobacco while the clouds of smoke are “imagined” (the key and intention) to be rain clouds. A sober mind might ask – would a culture who has to work hard for everything they have expend energy on things that do not work? For my part, not on your life! But this is the difference between a culture tied closely to nature and one that has been separated from it, as we have been… mostly. To make the point, the so-called classics (myth, literature) that used to form the foundation of education were created by cultures intimately tied to nature. In this truth is found the underlying value (and keys), just beneath the surface narratives. So, let’s see if there is a difference between corporate-processed tobacco and the real McCoy – made in nature, and unadulterated.
Coming from a long time heavy smoker, it ain’t healthy. You were never meant to breathe in smoke a billion times in your life. Sure I love it, but my lungs are all fucked up nowadays. I’m forced to be very active at work so I don’t have the worst lungs in the world, but they’re definitely in way worse shape than in my 20’s. I’m sure nicotine comes with some benefits, but smoking probably isn’t the best way to get those benefits.
It’s about as healthy as a wood stove in the house. The difference is about 100 years ago they discovered phosphate in soil makes tobacco tastes good. So they found phosphate from the ground unpurified worked and killed the smokers slowly so they used that. Turns out there’s the radioisotope polonium in rock phosphate. They knew purified phosphate was safe and put poison in it to make money.
I just posted about coca leaves a few hours ago which they actively use the same M.O.
Why can't I consume coca tea?
Google's answer :
Coca tea is illegal in the US because the coca plant, from which it's made, is a source of cocaine and is controlled under the Controlled Substances Act (CSA). Specifically, the CSA classifies coca as a Schedule II drug, meaning it's a restricted substance
AKA "Because I said so."
What the fuck does this "reason" have to do with coca tea?
Same shit.
I wonder what the Native American cancer rate was back before we "settled" here?
Probably minimal.
Also it's important to note that he's referring to nicotine patches, which are vastly less dangerous than smoking it, although like you said, it's the chemicals they add.
I got some Nicotina Rustica seeds from somewhere or other to grow and cure to smoke, but I'm having very little luck growing it. Same with coca. It just doesnt work in my place of residence. ;(
I’ll say this, smoking probably wouldn’t be nearly as bad if it was pure tobacco without the additives, but it is still smoke and it puts tar in your lungs which isn’t good.
Even coke has it's charm I guess in certain situations involving female nudity, but even that is only REALLY good at making you want to do more.
But crack though?
And it's gotten WAY out of hand in the "wide open" department, I've seen people take hits on the bus multiple times and at bus stops....so annoying. Doing their squirrelly shit running all around...."you got a blast?" No.
"you got a cig?' No.
That's the bus experience in my city.
I think part of the chemist's answer was that 99% of the population (or whatever number you want to pick) would never do crack or smack or even acid under any circumstances and so the problems with a lot of drugs are naturally limited.
Cigarettes, though, man it gets ya. I haven't had a smoke in--who know, a decade or two? But the other day I was talking to guy who was obviously a heavy smoker and reeked of it. I thought, "Hmmm... I wonder where they sell cigarettes around here?"... lol
Same happens to me. It's been eight years now, but every now and then, usually in stressful situations, I catch my brain doing that "you need a cigarette now" thing, but I know how to stop it now, just ignore it and it will stop itself after a few minutes and my brain comes down off of that delusion and I'm fine.
The smell of cigs makes me sick though. I used to think non-smokers were just being twats when they complained about how it made their lungs react, but now it happens to me.
I'd like to think that I'm done with it, but the minute I declare that, the cigs (or whatever addiction I'm declaring dominion over) bites me in the ass, so no more "I'm not addicted anymore" talk.
cardio pulm guy here: the nicotine is the culprit.
Nicotine shuts off your lungs cleaning system (them mucociliary elevator). <-That causes COPD or CA eventually as cells and alveoli get damaged.
They use those other additives for clean burn. And the pre-process ammonia treatment leeches the desired amount of nicotine out for different brands (brands are based on nicotine level).
Micro holes in paper are made to regulate intake and lends to addictive properties.
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Coming from a long time heavy smoker, it ain’t healthy. You were never meant to breathe in smoke a billion times in your life. Sure I love it, but my lungs are all fucked up nowadays. I’m forced to be very active at work so I don’t have the worst lungs in the world, but they’re definitely in way worse shape than in my 20’s. I’m sure nicotine comes with some benefits, but smoking probably isn’t the best way to get those benefits.
It’s about as healthy as a wood stove in the house. The difference is about 100 years ago they discovered phosphate in soil makes tobacco tastes good. So they found phosphate from the ground unpurified worked and killed the smokers slowly so they used that. Turns out there’s the radioisotope polonium in rock phosphate. They knew purified phosphate was safe and put poison in it to make money.
I just posted about coca leaves a few hours ago which they actively use the same M.O.
Why can't I consume coca tea?
Google's answer :
Coca tea is illegal in the US because the coca plant, from which it's made, is a source of cocaine and is controlled under the Controlled Substances Act (CSA). Specifically, the CSA classifies coca as a Schedule II drug, meaning it's a restricted substance
AKA "Because I said so."
What the fuck does this "reason" have to do with coca tea?
Same shit.
I wonder what the Native American cancer rate was back before we "settled" here?
Probably minimal.
Also it's important to note that he's referring to nicotine patches, which are vastly less dangerous than smoking it, although like you said, it's the chemicals they add. I got some Nicotina Rustica seeds from somewhere or other to grow and cure to smoke, but I'm having very little luck growing it. Same with coca. It just doesnt work in my place of residence. ;(
Start them off in seed starter pods.
Are you talking about the NR or the coca or both?
The tobacco seeds. They are super tiny. It's hard to maintain the right conditions if you sow them directly on the ground.
Will do. Thanks
Coca plants need heat and humidity.
I’ll say this, smoking probably wouldn’t be nearly as bad if it was pure tobacco without the additives, but it is still smoke and it puts tar in your lungs which isn’t good.
Rock phosphate added to soil for flavor, has polonium which causes cancer added to plant.
I asked a chemist who had mentioned he worked with drugs, that if he could erase one from existence, which one would it be?
He instantly said tobacco. Not because of the tobacco itself but because of all the additives they put in it.
I would say crack.
Even coke has it's charm I guess in certain situations involving female nudity, but even that is only REALLY good at making you want to do more.
But crack though?
And it's gotten WAY out of hand in the "wide open" department, I've seen people take hits on the bus multiple times and at bus stops....so annoying. Doing their squirrelly shit running all around...."you got a blast?" No. "you got a cig?' No. That's the bus experience in my city.
I think part of the chemist's answer was that 99% of the population (or whatever number you want to pick) would never do crack or smack or even acid under any circumstances and so the problems with a lot of drugs are naturally limited.
Cigarettes, though, man it gets ya. I haven't had a smoke in--who know, a decade or two? But the other day I was talking to guy who was obviously a heavy smoker and reeked of it. I thought, "Hmmm... I wonder where they sell cigarettes around here?"... lol
Same happens to me. It's been eight years now, but every now and then, usually in stressful situations, I catch my brain doing that "you need a cigarette now" thing, but I know how to stop it now, just ignore it and it will stop itself after a few minutes and my brain comes down off of that delusion and I'm fine. The smell of cigs makes me sick though. I used to think non-smokers were just being twats when they complained about how it made their lungs react, but now it happens to me.
I'd like to think that I'm done with it, but the minute I declare that, the cigs (or whatever addiction I'm declaring dominion over) bites me in the ass, so no more "I'm not addicted anymore" talk.
All of that being said, so far, so good.
cardio pulm guy here: the nicotine is the culprit.
Nicotine shuts off your lungs cleaning system (them mucociliary elevator). <-That causes COPD or CA eventually as cells and alveoli get damaged.
They use those other additives for clean burn. And the pre-process ammonia treatment leeches the desired amount of nicotine out for different brands (brands are based on nicotine level).
Micro holes in paper are made to regulate intake and lends to addictive properties.
The industry IS trying to kill you, but slowly.