Why has this site seen a huge turn towards Christian shit? It smells waaay off. Like, Russel Brand and all these other influencers turn Christian and this forum becomes overrun with worshippers of the Lord God of Israel via the Jesus psy op.
Why have TPTB decided to shove Christianity down everyones throats and flood boards with Christian bots etc?
Are they trying to strengthen their grip over us spiritually by reinforcing their original deception or what?
For some reason I haven't seen you around much. Do you actually want logical, robust answers as a conspiracist would require, or is your mind made up already? We all seek truth together here. Besides your need to take u/Thisisnotanexit seriously, I'm pointing out some quick takes so you know that it's credible to recognize that the answers exist.
If you see several influencers turning to Christ, that would be answered by whether Christianity holds the best truth claims or not.
I've never seen Christian bots. Please point any out by pinging me directly.
c/Conspiracies has for many years allowed civil Christian and anti-Christian debate. You might rather investigate how Conspiracies was created (wasn't it absorbed from Reddit?).
If someone had taken over Rome to force Gentiles into worshipping Yahweh, that would be interesting and intriguing; never heard of this, so what is your evidence?
You're going to play Jesus not existing against Jesus teaching Gentiles to be enemies? That's illogical.
If we pretended Christianity used some ineffective legend about a questionably extant anti-Gentile individual to convert billions of Gentiles, that would be more miraculous than what happened.
The Bible says Israel is also a "goy" (nation). Most religions hold that those who don't accept their truth will perish, regardless of whether the truth community is called by a national name (like New Israel) or another name. Nothing to see there.
Yes, Christianity is about the destruction of all gods except whomever the true Creator is. Any truth seeker would want to know who the true Creator is and to determine if anyone else had any deity at all, and we propose that Yahweh is the best candidate and no other has any claims on deity.
Genocide calls are pretty consistent with just-war principles in any religion: they only apply to belligerent nations that have rejected truth formally and governmentally. A couple passages have been taken out of context to claim otherwise, but they're not difficult in context.
You allude to Ps. 137:9, "Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy [Babylon's] little ones against the stones." Again, this refers to a nation that has abrogated its social place in seeking truth and upholding human relations. One reading is that innocent children are spared a worse fate in a war situation, another reading is that the culture has poisoned even its children into conscious participation against human morality. Without your proposing some better moral system there's no high ground for you to object to this verse; Viking poetry is far worse.
It sounds like you want to play a gotcha out of the God of Israel not being accepted prior to Jesus as the God of any other nation (like Armenia). Many "God so loved the world" verses could be brought to bear but you might still argue that you're not seeing what you claim to see. Therefore the question is what you intend to prove. Should I line up everyone from Dumuzid to Jupiter to determine whether they have a fair shake on being God of all the earth? I think that's exactly what Yahweh is asking us to watch happen in world history and so it wouldn't prove anything until the decisive contest that some anticipate. So it's unclear what assertion you wish to make about what could be better than Yahweh starting his group revelation via a single nation.
In short I'm not seeing useful conspiracy discussion advancing here for the most part, I'm seeing a mix of individual perceptions of some kind of brigading, a couple hackneyed objections to Christianity without any superior alternative, and a unique proposal that the Hebrew roots of Christianity must somehow invalidate it, as if the true Creator would never work by progressive revelation that passes through a people-group for a significant period. Would love to know if you're interested in discussion toward establishing truth.
Influencer suggest information to tempt others to hold onto it, which then turns them against each other, hence truth vs false reasoning.
What about rebranding ROAM to ROME; thereby affixing a place within the minds of those ignoring the moving force of nature? This shapes gentiles into lost sheep who are wondering/wandering (to roam) within the roman dominion (empire) of a jewish sovereign, each operating as a "wandering jew".
Logic implies circular thinking within self turning into conflicts of reason against others, hence en-e-my (within me).
a) Gentile implies an effect within the cause of generation. A jew suggests legend/legere/leg - "to collect; gather" to tempt effects together by tricking mass consent to suggestion as an artificial cause.
Effect (perception) within cause (perceivable) can be affected (suggestion) by others...
b) Consenting to a suggestion con-verts aka turns together gentiles within conflicts of reason, like...effective vs ineffective.
These conflicts are artificial and distract one from discerning self within nature as effective within cause aka "in-effective".
Nation aka native (life) within action (inception towards death) implies each ones need to resist wanted temptation, hence israel/yisra'el - "he that striveth with God".
A goyim/golem consents to follow the suggested temptations by others, while ignoring to resist perceivable.
So israel (each jew) implies a nation, while goy (collective of gentiles) implies a nation in denial...
Each religion/religio - "to bind anew" tempts believers and non-believers to hold onto suggested information.
Acceptance or denial of suggested truth or lies distracts one from discerning self as will within perish/perire/per - "forwards" aka as life being forwarded from inception towards death.
Where can one see no thing? How could one thing (perception) within every thing (perceivable) see no thing?
Christian implies "to anoint" aka the separation of each one within all aka establishment (life) during destruction (inception towards death).
A jew suggests pluralism aka polytheism (gods) to tempt each anointed (christ) gentile to join "christianity" through mass consent, which turns gentiles against each other aka anti-christ.
Joining (plural) contradicts anointing (singular)...the bond of religion contradicts the being of each christ aka ones consent to the suggestion of another contradicts ones choice by selecting a chosen one as sovereign over self.
Ones consent to suggested creation-ism establishes a conflict of reason (true vs false) about what others suggest IS, while one ignores what perceptibly WAS.
Coming into being implies a transfer from cause (perceivable) into effect (perception) aka an internal separation aka an unction/anointment of each one within all/oil...
OY VEY implies the WAY of OIL...for each salty seed within.
Just implies balance; war implies imbalance...it's ones choice ignoring balance (need/want) which imbalances (want vs not want) itself.
Belligerent aka bellum (war) gerere (to carry) implies holding onto a side within a conflict, while carrying the burden of con-sequence (following together).
Doing that tempts one to ignore that nation implies a separation of NAT-ives within act-ION.
a) Consenting to suggested moralism lures one into a circular conflict of reason...better versus worse aka a circumference (better/worse) lured into its center (versus).
In reality...a straight outside (inception towards death) generates each curved center (life) within.
b) Proposing a suggestion tempts those who consent to ignore ones position (perception) within pro/per/forward (perceivable).
Aka inhale and exhale thy confusion/disorder/confused medley of sounds aka the babel/babble of suggested words crafted into a medley within perceivable sound.
Medley; noun - "hand-to-hand combat, war, battle" aka a conflict of reason, hence medley/meddle - "mixing together"... https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=medley
Prior to Je suis (i am) implies all was before each one came into being.
Taking possession (je suis; i am) within a process of separation (christ; to anoint) establishes a contra-dict-ion aka conflict (contra) of shows (dict/deik) within action (ion)...that's how all the world became a stage for the onlookers.
Jesus (holding onto) contradicts Christ (setting apart).
Be set apart implies being (life) moved A-CROSS (inception towards death)...ignoring to discern this for self implies ones de-NIAL/NAIL.
Only within all can one be "of"...
Seeing implies the separation of each ones perception within all perceivable, hence each being enabled to see moving differences among each other.
A jew suggests tikkun olam (repairing the world by mixing together) to equalize differences among the unique perspective of each gentiles.
Like for example mixing white and black together corrupts the perceivable spectrum of light in-between white (pure light) and black (absence of light). Absence implies ones sense willingly abdicating (ignorance) from light (discernment).
The jewish suggestion "There's not a problem that I can't fix...'Cause I can do it in the mix" goes INDEEP into a gentiles mind if consented to... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtfZbj4J71A
To know implies effect (perception) adapting to cause (perceivable)...interest in discussions about suggested tempts one towards outcome.
Anointing suggests on-ointment, joining oil to flesh. Oil represents flow, flesh represents form. Jesus holds onto oil, and sets apart from non-oil.
a) Perception implies natural; suggestion implies artifice. Suggestion tempts consent into a binding contract, which artificially annuls natural anointment.
b) Before something can be applied ON; something has to be separated IN everything, hence from all into each anointed one.
c) Before one can join oil onto flesh...flesh has to come into form (life) within flow (inception towards death).
Once again there's a difference between natural and artificial anointment, tempting many to buy artificial oil for their flesh from few, who advertise it as "essential" oil, which it isn't, since essence implies "being".
a) Represent implies ones response to all presented...flow cannot respond to presented; only form within flow can, which implies adaptation.
b) Perceivable oil implies the momentum (inception towards death) of all motion for each matter (life) within. Coming into being through MOM-entum implies the natural anointment from father (motion) through mother (momentum) into each off-spring aka seed.
Oil implies the entire process from flow into form aka oil/all.
c) Suggested oil is shaped by form; out of form, and for form, while tempting form to ignore flow. It's being advertised as skin-care aka carried upon skin aka a burden upon that which nature set free.
Few suggest many to apply oil from outside to prevent skin from drying out; which tempts many to ignore that flow forces itself through form, hence pouring liquid outwards, which forces solid to replenish aka generation forcing re-generation aka action forcing re-action.
a) Christ implies the setting apart of all into each anointed one; jesus aka je suis (i am) implies one taking possession over self, while ignoring the procession of all.
b) Non implies suggested nihil-ism (nihilo; nothing) tempting one to de-nial perceivable for suggested.
c) Coming through the birth-channel sets each anointed being free from one another, hence wielding FREE will of choice. Choosing to hold onto implies rubbing against each other, thereby annulling anointment aka rubbing off, which also implies a transfer agreement between ones consent and another ones suggestion, hence few selling many something to hold onto.
Join; verb - "uniting into whole" inverts whole (all) separating into units (one). Only one within all can dis-cern self aka distinguish between ones perception and all perceivable.
A jew suggests gentiles to join aka tikkun olam (repairing the world by bringing together) aka abrahamism (father of multitude) aka e pluribus unum (out of many; one) aka united states; united nation; united kingdom; soviet union; european union; uniformity; university; unisex; unicode; usb aka equality through diversity aka artificial sovereignty based upon natural equity aka multiculturalism; miscegenation; mongrelization; melting pot; mass migration and on and on and on...
If God (all), then separation into each Christ (one)...the joining of Jesus + Christ inverts that separation.
You brought up influencers. Their statements can be tested by truth.
On a quick review I see a little history of force such as against the Saxons by Charlemagne. This was done by kings or by mobs, not by church officials, so it would be in the category of government persecution, not of forced conversion by the Catholic Church. So we could list wrongs done by religious rulers or emperors, but I don't see the connection. We are free here to discuss and apprehend truth together, including the truth that lots of people have been bad at that in the past, but their bad example doesn't affect what the truth is.
The evidence that Jesus is one of the best-attested men of antiquity has considerately been pinned by the mod of Atheist for several years. If you'd like to discuss that in the search for truth, please proceed. You seem to accept the existence of Paul, so if you'd like to discuss differences between the two in the search for truth, that's good too, but be prepared for the idea that they don't disagree.
I claim the name "Christian" but restrict that to whomever the true Creator really is and not to whomever I think he is at any moment. The truth is greater than myself and I'm dedicated to the truth and not to myself. For me everything is on the table except that I am sold as a slave to truth. If you see differences between the true Creator and Yahweh in the search for truth, that too is good discussion.
c/Christianity has already investigated genocide passages, but going into that detail isn't useful unless we know what and why we're seeking. Since you didn't get specific, I didn't reply specifically as I did with the next passage.
Ps. 137:9 is a poem rather than a history, calling for vengeance on the occupying nation of Babylon, not in reference to any historical event in which that vengeance occurred. The author proposes the hypothetical that, due to its immorality and guilt, its conquerors will be "happy" even if babies are destroyed in the chaos of war. It is not speaking of a judicial punishment per se, it speaks of a cruelty that may happen by the judgment of individual callous soldiers, and it's not saying this happens in time of peace but it's saying the natural consequences of war are rightly determined upon Babylon by the Creator. The word translated "happy" is closer to its English equivalent "fortuitous" or to the more literal "blest", indicating that the soldier who makes that judgment is, unlike at any other time, "happening" to accord with a greater justice upon the people, and with the natural consequences upon the individual child and the family. In short, it's a brief explanation of a deep principle that has merit, and it's not at all a teaching justifying force in matters of conscience.
TLDR: Evils of religious kings, nature of Jesus, nature of Paul, nature of the Creator are all good topics we could develop. If there were a "Jesus psyop" then these would be good pillars to attack. What's interesting is that so many people who are free to study and choose truth come to find that truth in Jesus. I repeat, "Do you actually want logical, robust answers as a conspiracist would require, or is your mind made up already?" If you commit to follow the truth wherever it leads, as I do, we can have fruitful discovery together, and you may even be able to disabuse me of errors I've made.